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Translations: Gintama 515 (2)
Though chances are, if given time, the chakra will be restored back to normal and Juubi will get Hachibi's full chakra as well as Kyuubi's, if not half of its chakra.
That's doesn't mean he(kyuubi) has a chance at beating the juubi.
True, but Kyuubi feels that he and Hachibi might have a chance. Maybe we'll see some of Naruto's never-give-up personality in Kyuubi.
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Well, the kyubi did give kakashi some of his chakra, so that's the original kyubi and naruto.
Last edited by marshall313; November 16, 2012 at 02:17 AM.
The guy was missing an arm, tagged with an Hiraishin tag ( meaning Yondaime could teleport at will to him ) and had the Kyuubi taken away from him, he had nothing to wound or even threaten Yondaime with, since Izanagi would work only on an eventual death, and it would destroy his Kamui eye.
Obito was beaten soundly that night, one can argue that he was a fool not taking the Kyuubi and leaving right away
And I did use this logic in the Gai vs Naruto topic
I'm not really positive on their chances, considering they will be facing Madara and Obito as well
Can we just give Madara some Jim Morrison sunglasses,
and a black leather jacket,
because he is too cool for school and he knows it--
in fact if someone made that into an actual picture I think it would become my new favorite thing on the internet.
"Step aside, basics, let Madara show you how it is done"
I even stated that was not his max speed there. Thing is Naruto is in CM lvl 2 is still above Minato's base speed. A punch from Naruto in that mode is going to end up going faster then Minato's.Quote:
Now i did not state Obito stoping Naruto with wood element is a feat of how he would own Naruto... I said if he can do that to Naruto then why use a bloody chain on Minato?
Naruto can achive those speeds if he needs to, Shunshin no jutsu can be used as much as you whant as long as you can supply the chakra and lol gues who has a mountain of it? Again Kishi is having him not use it to have a fight.
Yes he wanted to bind him and he decided to use a stupid chain and not wood element like what? Then you are telling me Obito belived that would work on Minato? Like WTF? Was he sleeping all the time Minato trained him or whent with him on missions?Quote:
Thing is Kishi screwed up the moment he made him Obito... Madara making that mistake when going with informations from other sources makes sense but not Obito ffs...
Also yes both moves are useless but that is not the point, the point is WHY use a chain when you have Mokuton and why try the chain move in the first place? What type of idiot is Obito?
Did you see Naruto lose any of his chakra cloack when he got grabed? Like evne a little bit of it? Now considering inertia, the fact that Narut still was able to give him a head hit AND the fact that he broke it like nothing moments later AND the fact that part of it broke after Tobi was sent flying after the head hit and i can state its not really that effective on his chakra mode...Quote:
Because one would fight as effective as posible.Why trow an arm away when he could grab that guy with Wood Element and stab him to death? Why not shoot a huge Katon at him after grabing him with a wood element?Quote:
Seriously why in all his bloody fights he did not use Mokuton if he had it up to curent chapters?
Why would Tobi not use Mokuton on those 2 guys like he did on those foders when "saving" Rin and be done it with way faster and safer?
Of course NOBODY in his right mind, expecialy a ninja would not handicap his own skills and cover his mouth so he can't shoot those OP Katons he showed (well it was only one but you get the picture).
PS. I did read what ninja both said in the folowing posts. I do agree that is how it works, the real dimension and the other one share referance as he said but this changes nothing. Obito could end up getting killed even if its by CHANSE. He did not know what Danzo can do... What if he needed to go completly intangible? What if by chanse they noticed his body parts? Who in there right minds would expose themselfs like that? Those 2 could release a huge bug swarm inside there to try to make it out (find the exit) and hit Obito's parts by mistake... Seriously it makes no bloody sense.
Minato was tagged by a bloody chain. Just get him in a good position. Its posible. Also a kunai needs to be swinged and swinged far enough as that Katon is big enough to cover a huge area.Quote:
Point is you don't know how a fight would go down and if you would end up needing a skill you have, nerfing yourself with NO GOOD REASON makes no sense.
Makes you wonder why they did NOT ATTACKED when Tobi ported after that eh? How did he defeated them after that when he can't use intangibility?Quote:
No its a plot hole. Even curent chapters with Kakashi and how he put him in his own dimension and got himself injured badly (well he looks badly injured with all that blood but who knows).
So you tell me. You are not a ninja but would you put X guy in your dimension if he can strike you any time you go intangible like it was showed with Naruto's clone and Kakashi's body?
This entire way of fighting IS wrong.
That was not about Minato in any shape or fashion, it was about OBITO/TOBI and how HE acts like a bloody MORON.
Now and again if Tobi decides to use a chain WHY would he not use wood element? Obviously both moves are complete nonsense vs Minato BUT WHY oh WHY would he use a chain when he has wood element? See this is about bad writing and not about Minato's feats.
Now seriouslt but how did you get from the thing you quoted, me stating Danzo's bodyguards don't have ST and Obito not using Mokuton to fight them to me downplaying Minato? How is this making any sense to you?
Also this Obito crep is the only thing i find as bad writing in this manga. I actualy love the manga to death.
Now of course he was able to deal with those 2 BUT he could do it more easy using his wood element AND he lost an arm when he could just stab him with a wood thing.
Seriously Tobi had some fights and never showed this abilities, now when he is revealed as Obito starts making him trow all this jutsus about....
Now Andbu guys i have no idea what jutsus they use and if they need the hole there but considering Obito's powerfull Katon/Kamui combo it makes 0 sense for him to handicap himself the way he did.
Naruto is way faster then full speed raikage, that is not even debateble as he showed himself SO... Now if he needs shunshin (and he needs) its irrelevant to the fact that he can spam shunshin all day long considering his chakra capacity.
Last edited by xXan; November 16, 2012 at 06:31 AM.