Naruto 609 Discussion

[okyatoks]

Things we would NOT WANT TO SEE:

1. The Juubi is actually the Rikudou Sennin
2. Rin is actually alive and well
3. 10 more chapters with no cameos from Naruto's teammates
4. Naruto manga to end after the defeat of the Juubi
5. ObiTobi gives his eyes to Naruto to become the reincarnation of the Rikudou Sennin
6. Orochimaru transforms Yamato into the first Hokage in order to battle Madara
7. Sasuke will stop the war
8. Juubi to dance Oppan Gangnam Style
9. United Shinobis to dance Oppan Gangnam Style
10. Kakashi to complete his Sharingan eyes (as ObiTobi gives his other eye). . . Kakashi now both covers his eyes. :P
11. The "Zero tail" in the Naruto movie is real
12. Infinite Tsukuyomi happens. Naruto and a handful fights off the Genjutsu (the new arc). . .

[marshall313]

Why people think juubi posses sharingan/rinnegan eyes? I think juubi has normals eyes, and these eyes are just showing it is being controlled with sharingan/rinnegan. Just like 9 tails got sharingan eye while Madara/Obito was controlling it. You remember when Minato broke the genjutsu, Kurama had eyes back to normal.

Kurama doesn't have a sharingan to begin with.

And no. The juubi does really have the sharing an/rinnegan combo. In fact, for me, rikudou got his rinnegan from the juubi as his jinchuuriki. Remember naruto when he used the kyubi's chakra? He got the same eyes as the kyubi. So maybe it goes the same for rikudou. And we've seen in the flashback that the juubi had a sharingan/rinnegan when rikudou sealed him.

[mattiaildivino]

we don't know about juubi power and what i i mean is the juubi got 7 bijuus and little chakra of the 8 and 9 tails and they're powerful and full of chakra and even without kurama and hachibi, this incomplete juubi should be freaking strong even if madara and obito get defeated, the juubi will still be around and one way of another, the shinobi world got to deal with it or it will be the begging of the shinobi world and this is when the power that naruto obtained from the bijuus will be an important key for defeating the juubi..
naruto promised that he will free the bijuus and let them be free so naruto won't seal or kill the juubi and will try to split them up as rikudo did but naruto doesn't got the rinnegan to used suck a jutsu as rikudo did but sasuke will be in play too..

in fact,the dangerousness of that beast is scary,but we should keep in mind that it's not as strong as it used to be,whereas Naruto is stronger than what it seems,as the biju gave him some of their chakra (hence,weaker jubi,stronger Naruto)

[Invader]

"It swallows oceans. Splits the land. Carries mountains. And is the progenitor of all that exists in this world".

You know - this is one of the things about the manga that kind of stretches credibility. If the Jubi was this terrifying, Godlike monster that was rampaging around the world cracking mountains between his thunder-thighs and junk like that - then howcome no-one knew ANYTHING about it except Madara? Something that huge - that powerful - and that epic would have left legends that could not be hidden. It would be in songs, in art, in stories, in legends - it would be an integral part of the culture of the entire world. And yet nobody knows jack-squat about the Jubi except 1 or 2 Uchiha? Ridiculous.

Especially considering that Kishi's screwed up timeline suggests that the 6 Path Sage 'created' the ninja world not that long ago. I mean - Harashima and Madara's time was - what - 50 or 60 years ago? Let's call it 75 years ago just to be generous. That means the 6 Path Sage and his two sons were (at MOST) a couple centuries previous to Madara/Harashima.

That really isn't very long ago. So we're supposed to believe that this HUGE, epic, world-shattering Jubi monster was tooling around only 2 or 3 hundred years ago (and who knows how long before that!) - crushing and terrorizing the whole of humanity - and NOBODY knows anything about it anymore? Sigh.

[Fox666]

It is said that Konoha was founded 80 years age, and that the Sage of Six Paths existed 1,000 years ago.

[shafagh]

You know - this is one of the things about the manga that kind of stretches credibility. If the Jubi was this terrifying, Godlike monster that was rampaging around the world cracking mountains between his thunder-thighs and junk like that - then howcome no-one knew ANYTHING about it except Madara? Something that huge - that powerful - and that epic would have left legends that could not be hidden. It would be in songs, in art, in stories, in legends - it would be an integral part of the culture of the entire world. And yet nobody knows jack-squat about the Jubi except 1 or 2 Uchiha? Ridiculous.

Especially considering that Kishi's screwed up timeline suggests that the 6 Path Sage 'created' the ninja world not that long ago. I mean - Harashima and Madara's time was - what - 50 or 60 years ago? Let's call it 75 years ago just to be generous. That means the 6 Path Sage and his two sons were (at MOST) a couple centuries previous to Madara/Harashima.

That really isn't very long ago. So we're supposed to believe that this HUGE, epic, world-shattering Jubi monster was tooling around only 2 or 3 hundred years ago (and who knows how long before that!) - crushing and terrorizing the whole of humanity - and NOBODY knows anything about it anymore? Sigh.

another plot hole ........

are you forgeting that konoha ninjas belived Minato and Sarutobi were stronger than Hashirama ....

if Narutovers people have good memory then Naruto won't change their personality in less than 10 minutes

and this damn beast destined to get defeat by Saviour big mouth and Rasengan ( in direct ways or indirect ways ) .... nothing more , nothing less ...

[Ruffy]

i cant wait to see Sasuke and Orochimaru !! And the Man "who knows all "(who could it be ? a new Char or someone we knows already)
and i cant wait to see Sasuke and Madara Face to Face ^^ .

[Roman]

i cant wait to see Sasuke and Orochimaru !! And the Man "who knows all "(who could it be ? a new Char or someone we knows already)
and i cant wait to see Sasuke and Madara Face to Face ^^ .

Logically, Madara is the one who knows everything. I seriously doubt that he's going to communicate with someone dead, trying to revive him/her/it. I think he's searching for Madara.

[Liof]

Logically, Madara is the one who knows everything. I seriously doubt that he's going to communicate with someone dead, trying to revive him/her/it. I think he's searching for Madara.

Imagine Madara, juubi, and the rest fighting. While suddenly Oro arives on a giant snake and taps Madara on the shoulder "Yeah, hi... We got some questions for you"

[Ruffy]

Logically, Madara is the one who knows everything. I seriously doubt that he's going to communicate with someone dead, trying to revive him/her/it. I think he's searching for Madara.

I think (or i hope) it is Harashima and not Madara ... next question ---> what was the scroll that suigetsu found ,that can change the war ??
damn orochimaru you basstard he thought as far ahead? GENIUS

[Bill the Cat]

I think (or i hope) it is Harashima and not Madara ... next question ---> what was the scroll that suigetsu found ,that can change the war ??
damn orochimaru you basstard he thought as far ahead? GENIUS

Orochimaru is probably tied with the 4th as the best long term planner in the manga. He is even better than Shikamaru.

[Ruffy]

Orochimaru is probably tied with the 4th as the best long term planner in the manga. He is even better than Shikamaru.

I think Shikamaru is equal to Orochimaru

[mattiaildivino]

You know - this is one of the things about the manga that kind of stretches credibility. If the Jubi was this terrifying, Godlike monster that was rampaging around the world cracking mountains between his thunder-thighs and junk like that - then howcome no-one knew ANYTHING about it except Madara? Something that huge - that powerful - and that epic would have left legends that could not be hidden. It would be in songs, in art, in stories, in legends - it would be an integral part of the culture of the entire world. And yet nobody knows jack-squat about the Jubi except 1 or 2 Uchiha? Ridiculous.

Especially considering that Kishi's screwed up timeline suggests that the 6 Path Sage 'created' the ninja world not that long ago. I mean - Harashima and Madara's time was - what - 50 or 60 years ago? Let's call it 75 years ago just to be generous. That means the 6 Path Sage and his two sons were (at MOST) a couple centuries previous to Madara/Harashima.

That really isn't very long ago. So we're supposed to believe that this HUGE, epic, world-shattering Jubi monster was tooling around only 2 or 3 hundred years ago (and who knows how long before that!) - crushing and terrorizing the whole of humanity - and NOBODY knows anything about it anymore? Sigh.

well,noone knew about rikudo either,there were just legends. surely it's a plot hole,but keep in mind that the countries were divided and in war,at school they taught other things,and those who had their parents killed didn't think about what had happened thousands years before.

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another plot hole ........

are you forgeting that konoha ninjas belived Minato and Sarutobi were stronger than Hashirama ....

if Narutovers people have good memory then Naruto won't change their personality in less than 10 minutes

and this damn beast destined to get defeat by Saviour big mouth and Rasengan ( in direct ways or indirect ways ) .... nothing more , nothing less ...

ahhaha that's right! not to mention that noone ever thought of naruto being minato's son,notwithstanding he had the uzumaki surname,which hinted to the 4th hokage's wife.

[enmymiguel]

i just want to see sasuke period.
see guys, naruto manga is not the same if we not seeing sasuke around. we feel not normal.

i just want to see madara meeting sasuke and oro.
ohh who are those ninja.

madara attack oro. and almost destroy hes whole body, but oro come out fresh.
madara...ohhh a snake style.
madara attack sasuke with a fire. but sasuke counter with amat and madara get sorprice with such jutsu. mandara...ohhh a uchiha who have the power of the EMS, i want to try something. he attack sasuke again...sasuke block with susanoo.
madara...who is this uchiha boy tobi.
hes sasuke the last of the uchiha.
madara. ohh i like him, he knows how to dance and hes beautiful. tobi we need him.
tobi. madara last time i check he was in outside. but seeing him with oro. i think hes not.
madara- too bad, if hes not in out side. he must die.

thats how the battle begin. thats how sasuke and madara start. oro help kakashi beat obito.

lol what a fan make story. lol

[Rikudou King]

You know - this is one of the things about the manga that kind of stretches credibility. If the Jubi was this terrifying, Godlike monster that was rampaging around the world cracking mountains between his thunder-thighs and junk like that - then howcome no-one knew ANYTHING about it except Madara? Something that huge - that powerful - and that epic would have left legends that could not be hidden. It would be in songs, in art, in stories, in legends - it would be an integral part of the culture of the entire world. And yet nobody knows jack-squat about the Jubi except 1 or 2 Uchiha? Ridiculous.

Especially considering that Kishi's screwed up timeline suggests that the 6 Path Sage 'created' the ninja world not that long ago. I mean - Harashima and Madara's time was - what - 50 or 60 years ago? Let's call it 75 years ago just to be generous. That means the 6 Path Sage and his two sons were (at MOST) a couple centuries previous to Madara/Harashima.

That really isn't very long ago. So we're supposed to believe that this HUGE, epic, world-shattering Jubi monster was tooling around only 2 or 3 hundred years ago (and who knows how long before that!) - crushing and terrorizing the whole of humanity - and NOBODY knows anything about it anymore? Sigh.

Could have simply been that the actions of the Juubi were later attributed to the other Bijuus, like the Kyuubi with the whole ocean and mountains thing. Wouldn't be hard to believe that past people just confused one tailed monster for another. Also, Ma and Pa were over 800 years old and even they believed the Rikudou Sennin to be a myth. So we're talking more then just a couple of centuries. More like a couple of millenniums. Time enough for stuff to be confused and lost.