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Translations: Gintama 515 (2)
You called that a plothole?
How about this kakashi's statement about sasuke's chidori?
''Don't you dare to use that to your fellow konoha ninja''.
Remember, kakashi and obito are like brothers. If he don't want to hit obito with his raikiri, then you don't have any choice but to accept it. Maybe kakashi don't want to hurt obito.
Is that a plothole? No.
There's a reason for everything. Just give kishi some time. And honestly, you're stating your opinion ahead of kishi's story. Don't worry, kishi would answer all of your so called plotholes.
Why obito didn't use his rinnegan.
Why kakashi didn't use his raikiri to obito's ass.
and i agree obtio is not going to "turn good" so to say but he will betray madara in hopes of doing the moons eye plan himself.
But my question is do they still plan on RT Madara because i dont think An ET can be a host to a tailed beast- and if so who is going to RT him obito ? hell i would not be surprised if madara can RT himself lol
what did I say? obito's just started using mokuton! of course,he's been avoiding using it for 32 volumes,in a flashback he uses it and now,out of the blue,he reveals it. the fuck did he not use it before???
OK - if hitting Tobi was as simple as just taking a poke at him while you are in his pocket dimension then WHY THE HECK did Fuu and Torune not totally kick his @$$? Once he sucked up Torune then he had several opportunities to take a few pokes at him - or are we supposed to believe a SENSOR ninja (a highly trained warrior) would see his enemy's body parts appearing before him and NOT take a shot at it somehow?
OR - how about when both Fuu and Torune were in there together? Why didn't they kill Sasuke? Sasuke would have been sitting there - totally helpless - protected only by Karin. The two of them could have killed Sasuke and taken shots at Obito when he warped himself into the dimension to pick up Sasuke. It makes no sense at all. Oh well. Its not like this is the only gaping plot hole this manga has driven through with its eyes closed lately. :P
And yeah - Obito whipping out the Moukton for the first time in hundreds of chapters is totally hinky too. Even if he was just trying to keep it a secret he could have used it against Konan since they were alone. Or Minato. They were alone then too. Bah!
Last edited by Invader; November 14, 2012 at 05:47 PM.
He had to have put them in a genjutsu at some point AFTER he sucked them up. Obito has not shown any ability to instantly put someone in a genjutsu at the same moment he is sucking them down his eye's toilet bowl. Otherwise he would have instantly put Naruto into a genjutsu when he sucked him up (though arguably he could get out of it since he's a perfect Jinchuriiki now) AND he would have been able to put Kakashi into a genjutsu as well. But he didn't. He's never shown that skill, therefore we must assume that he put Fuu and Torune into a genjutsu after he sucked them up and not while he was in the act of sucking them up. Therefore both Fuu and Torune would have been in a position to either (A) kill Obito the moment he tried warping or (B) kill Sasuke who was unconscious and helpless.Quote:
number12michael is right: in vol.55 tobi said that: http://www.mangastream.to/naruto-cha...20-page-9.html . of course he wasn't so stupid not to do such a thing.
anyway, you are wrong: tobi saved sasuke in vol.50,and sent karin to heal him. then in volume 51 he absorbed fu e torune,and released sasuke and karin in the same chapter,they woulnd't have been able to kill sasuke nonetheless
invader,if tobi told kabuto that,it means that he used an illusion in that moment in which he absorbed the 2 of them. it can't be a lie. maybe it's a plot hole,but that's what tobi did. maybe his illusions can't be used much,as shisui's... although obito's power seems not to be illusions
The thing is, the story is progressing, we seen a jutsu that we never seen before from tobi, but it doesn't mean kishi pull that out from his butt, it's just tobi doesn't really need that jutsu to used on minato and konan or for minato, his mokuton is really useless in that fight.
http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/86022516/8 how cool this page is! naruto headbutting obito's face,and then kakashi punching him. finally,adult obito has been hurted again,not just by minato,torune and konan!
No - I think that you guys are misinterpreting what Obito said to Kabuto. All he meant when he said that line was that they've been in a genjutsu for a long time since he capped them.. And let's face it, there were quite a few chapters between when Obito snicker-snagged Fuu/Torune and his comment to Kabuto. We were all asking the question, "What ever happened to those two guys...?"Quote:
"Since" doesn't mean "since the very instant I touched them". "Since" just means "since the general time I captured them". Again - I repeat the UNANSWERED question... If Obito can "insta-genjutsu" anyone he touches, then why hasn't he ever done it to anyone else - particularly Naruto and Kakashi. It is a plot hole no matter how you look at it. Either (A) Obito can insta-genjutsu anyone he touches and he ISN'T bothering to do it to Naruto and Kakashi or (B) he CAN'T insta-genjutsu anyone he touches and Fuu/Torune should have been on a rampage inside his pocket dimension, killing Sasuke and Wreck-It-Ralphing Obito whenever he warped. You can't have have your cake and eat it too.
How come some of you keep on saying that's a plothole, there's a plothole and it's a plothole.
He absorbed those two and put them to his genjutsu, where's the plothole with that?
Kakashi is looking for obito's body parts. Why? Because he already knew his secret.
But torune and fuu doesn't know anything. And the fact that the basic sense of a ninja is not to attack recklessly. So, do you expect for torune to kick tobi's ass when he seen his body parts floating when he absorb fuu?
Last edited by marshall313; November 14, 2012 at 07:22 PM.
chapter was okay. I was expecting more of a battle between Kakashi and Obito. All these years to reveal Tobi's identity and past and we get this short filled fight and Naruto jumps in with help from the 9 Tails.
What would really get things going is if, Madara takes away the 9 Tails and we see what Naruto can really do. Then the series will continue to be worth reading. And what happened to Sasuke, the real star of this damn series...?.
p.s., anyone else think it was sort of funny at the end of this chapter, where Madara is just sitting there like, thanks Kishi for giving me a cameo at the last minute before sh*t jumps off.