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Yeah we had a similar conversation before David, I'm aware of most of the history. I just see it as some irony, but that aspect of the franchise is n the past. Holding onto the name is a bit ridiculous though and I don't think it's talked about often enough nationally.
I know for a fact that the Boston Red Sox were the last MLB team to integrate though. But it could have been that the Senators were the last NL team to do so. Which is important considering the NL was a lot more racially integrated and diverse immediately after the color line was broken.
The Senators were AL. And my bad, they actually integrated relatively early, in 1954.
Founding AL team, older than the Yankees and current version of Orioles.
Those Orioles were a major league team, one of the founding American League franchises. The played in Baltimore from 1901-1903.
I've always found it interesting that the Orioles make no reference to the old Browns. Do they sell Browns retro-hats at Camden Yards? The Nats sell Expos hats at National Park, and good thing, the Expos may have had the greatest hat ever:
Two years don't count!...I just forgot. All I know is that there was a minor league team that stuck around much longer.
Of course not, we're not assholes...wait yes we are, we break out the Red Sox and Yankees swag when they're in town. I think they MIGHT have put an end to it this year when they were relevant again. You can kiss their fans ass when we suck, but not when we're good.
But to answer your question logically, I think it's because most people remember the Expos. The St.Louis Browns aren't even in the corners of most MLB fans minds. There is something very nostalgic and semi-goofy about a Expos hat. A browns hat just looks like a dirty Red Sox hat.
From what I have read, the Orioles disowned their legacy as the Browns from the moment they moved to Baltimore. The Browns are still part of baseball lore, mostly thanks to Bill Veeck. They were a pretty lousy franchise though.
Their hats look like dirty Cardinals hats, not Red Sox. Technically I think the Cardinals modeled their hats on the Browns, not the other way around. For a time, the Browns were the senior franchise, until the late 20's. Until the Browns moved, the Cardinals were actually tenements in the Browns ballpark. The Cardinals paid rent to play in old Sportsman Park.
I remember it now, the shape of the logo is slightly different. I thought there was a B cap too though...oh well
Yes, lousy. Lore or not, everyone would question wtf that cap is and would immediately recognize the Expos one.
Both Baltimore sports teams used to be called the Browns. Interesting....
The modern Red Sox B looks nearly identical to the old Brooklyn B. The older Boston B logo was much less ornate than the modern one.
Yup, when they first moved to Baltimore. It actually looked similar to the old Boston Braves hat, with different colors.
Until the 60's most teams had very conservative logo's and color schemes. Black and Orange would have been new and daring, by the standards of the time. Until the 40's navy blue, white, and grey were seemingly the only acceptable uniform colors. Team logo's seemed to consist exclusively of their host cities first initials, explaining why so many were so similar. The Oriole bird must have been one of the first, if not the first, to break that mold.
Last edited by Kaiten; December 05, 2012 at 02:42 PM.
That's a good point. I'm not sure if they were the trendsetter there, or if the Cardinals came out with their bird hat first. Even today, most hats have a letter.
The use of more uniform colors probably coincided with the addition of more teams, though I could be wrong.