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Translations: Bleach 600 (2)
What is it with you and the world tree? Isn't it just a shrunken tree with a fancy name?
I don't even think the Queen's produce involves transferring souls. Most likely, the only thing that was transferred (or recreated, rather) were memories.
Exactly it's cheap and doesn't make sense...Also Pitou's ability was Specialization by the way.....P.S. Cause of 1 heated debate no need to avoid me Phantron or hold a grudge, I certainly don't. Challenging others in manga knowledge is fun and interesting to me to see how they interpret the story.Quote:
He discusses how souls are endlessly small but have the potential to endlessly repeat.
He then states that although souls are infinitely small they make up everything that we are.
This is surely something that will be explored further in the future.
In regards to the World Tree, there are two World Trees. One in the known world which we have seen and the one in the Outside world which is a million times bigger.
The one in the known world is malnourished yes, because it cannot plant its roots in magma like the Outside world one. But it is still a World Tree, a tree of life.
When Gon climbs the tree he remarks that he can feel life flowing through it. Upon the top of the tree is baby birds and a mother symbolizing the cycle of life inherent to the tree.
The tree is going to be a very important part of HxH moving forward as it is said to be the gateway of souls, now considering that 1 chapter before the Koala-ant detailed his souls journey and the very meaning of souls, it would be very strange if the two werent connected, afterall the tree is Yggdrasil, the tree of life, I dont think that Togashi would introduce to elements to the story such as this right next to each other if there was no connection between them.
Now bringing it back to Kite, he mentions feeling a similar journey to that mentioned by the Koala ant, now if we hypothesis that both there souls went to the world tree but were instead bounced back for one reason or another it explains the rebirth in another body quite neatly. Anyways please reread a properly translated chapter as you either read a shoddy translation or forgot completely.
All Living things have Life energy. Once you learn Nen you become sensitive to these things. The World Tree considering what it is Yea you would be able to feel a strong Life force coming from it.Quote:
It's not stated anywhere that it's the gateway of souls -_-. Ging explained the World Tree to Gon he does not mention rebirth through the Tree or souls being associated with it. The whole Soul thing was for Kite and The Ant's explanation of rebirth.
The next plot/Arc in HxH is this outside World and If Netero Beyond is to be Hunted or Not?
Your Free to believe this but Togashi does not link these two aspects together. Also Kite wasn't doing any talking about Souls it was just the Kola talking. Kite simply told him since i look like the girl you killed live by me...Etc EtcQuote:
Yeah I don't think you can really draw a connection between the two. For one thing that would mean that there are two or more world trees acting as gateways, which would be absurd. I think you focus too much on the name.Quote:
I would be fairly surprised if Togashi focuses on souls. He doesn't shy from talking about the mystical, but Togashi keeps v. coy about the more supernatural things and leaves the possibilities (and the horror) to the imagination.
It's called the World Tree not Yggdrasil in HXH and we know why Ging explained it. Introducing to us The Dark Continent after that Chapter we see Beyond Netero gathering supporters and anybody that wants to go to the Dark Continent and the Zodiacs discuss this and we get a Hiatus right before they have to make a decision to kill him because he's going about it the wrong way.
Like I said yo can speculate this I wouldn't see why however cause Ging was thorough with his explanation and it make perfect sense that such a nourished Tree would have a strong life force. But don't pass this off as a fact cause it's not. Nobody mentioned the tree being a gateway for souls or collect souls. It simply grows hella big and has a strong life force which is sensible for such a tree.
The Tree's purpose was what wonders the Dark continent holds. That's all.
All refer to the tree as the gateway of souls. Coincidentally enough, Dragon Quest 9, a game that Togashi is very fond of is focused around a World Tree called Yggdrasil which is a gateway for souls. I needn't go on.
Last edited by futurefrog; November 12, 2012 at 05:02 PM.
You don't cause Dragon Quest isn't HXH now is it? NOr Did he state this and a very important Character in the Manga has explained this. My 2 cents is finished. Thanks for being the spark for me re reading the Chapters, refreshing my memory and getting the facts.
Togashi will NEVER be overt about things like souls and reincarnation. It would trivialize death - something he's been actively doing the opposite of. Furthermore, HxH has a realism to it to the extent that the questions we ask in our world are the same questions characters would ask in HxH as well. Are God's real; what happens after death: these are unanswerable questions - concepts - that resonate with people across culture and time. It is an inseparable, undeniable part of humanity: part and parcel of the human condition. And HxH is about humanity.
Even worse is the world-tree-gon-theory. The theory isn't bad because of inconsistency or fallacy but narrative. That is to say, the idea is so utterly horrible there is no way Togashi would write it in. I mean shit what if Hisoka was Gon's brother? Lol.
Of course Togashi would never be overt about souls and reincarnation being within the world of Hunter x Hunter... EXCEPT HE ALREADY HAS...
These things exist in HxH we have already seen it happen. There are a number of Buddhist references throughout the entire series.
Of course those questions are unanswerable. Does that mean we wont see it explored any further? Hell no.
Yes HxH is about humanity, denying that the process of death is a part of humanity shows that you are just human, capable of error.
The nature of death and what it means to humans is something Togashi has explored before with YuYu Hakusho, I for one would like to see it explored in HxH.
When it comes to my crazy theories with the world tree, I acknowledge that my theory of Gon being born from the world tree is crazy. But if you read my post on why I believe it, you might see that it makes sense. Anyways, once again you have been proven wrong, you are claiming Togashi will never show these things when he already has sigh. Please give it up, you have no basis for any of your remarks.