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Translations: Gintama 510 (2)
Shikamaru, sasuke and neji knows that the examination are beyond to their knowledge. They came into the conclusion that the purpose of that exam is to show how to gather/collect the correct info/answers because that exam is clearly beyond on their understanding and it's too difficult for them as a genin to answer those stuff. They cheat or used their ability because they knows nothing.
Sasuke used his sharingan's ability to cheat because he knows nothing.
Neji used his byakugan's ability to cheat because he knows nothing.
Shikamaru rely on ino's ability because he knows nothing.
As simple as that.
Then how can he see if his eyes are in the other dimension? LIGHT does pass trough him so if the light does NOT get to his eyes HOW can he see? How can he speack IF his mouth is not really there considering gaz would pass right trough him? You have to take into account he is not having part of his bodo moved trough a wormhole like having a Stargate open (the tv show) and placing 1 hand trough it. Over here that thing is moved with no open wormhole. It just exists on the other side leaving behind some type of phantom. That is the problem with "Not cut". The object is not moved trough a warmhole, its more like phazed out of our dimension.
Bah you have a lot of problem here but who cares.
Last edited by xXan; December 21, 2012 at 09:57 AM.
Sakura and Shikamaru's intelligence is not comparable.
Shikamaru is a Field General, a tactician, perhaps the best the manga has alongside his father. He has a very analytically mind that allows him to easily break codes and is very good with both inductive and deductive reasoning.
Sakura too has a good analytic mind, but her intelligence is more knowledge based which in turn can be applied to something like the medic field. Let us not forget, that she found a cure for Sasori's poison in a day, whereas Chiyo, his grandmother, had never been able to find one.
even Naruto had figured it out, not in the right way, but still). so telling it a logic beyond gennin's would be incorrect. Ibiki is not at any fault here.
and again i will say it, with link this time, that the purpose of this exam was not to write down the answer, the purpose of this exam was collecting the info.
here, here, here and here you can see several of those gennin figuring out what to do. Shikamaru, Neji or Sasuke weren't the only ones.
anyway, i will try to say it again, with something more than my own words this time.
the questions were purposefully made hard. if it was easier, many of the students would have answered the question and thus the main purpose would have failed. to make their point clear, the Proctor made the question too hard so that everyone can understand what is the actual purpose of the exam.
now with Ibiki's own word again, with stating the purpose of the exam.
now if you still believe that writing the answer in the paper was everything, nothing else; then i think our opinions vary in this regard.
Last edited by darkprince0521; December 21, 2012 at 10:44 AM.
Shikaku and Shikamaru could be great in any field they choose. Not just as strategists. Their mind isn't geared toward one talent. Ulysses S. Grant was an amazing field general and tactician, but also had average intelligence and was a terrible president. He was limited to what he was great at. Shikamaru doesn't have those limits.
So yes, Sakura and Shikamaru's intelligence is not comparable. She simply should never be brought up in comparison to him since it would be like comparing a medical doctor to Stephen Hawking, Leonardo da Vinci, or other universal geniuses. She is diligent and book smart. But her one great strength, is her intelligence, and that is badly overshadowed when you have a guy with an over 200 I.Q. as part of your generation. She can never be The Smart Guy. So her role has become as The Chick. And that is never a good thing for a female character.
Last edited by Jessie; December 21, 2012 at 12:25 PM.
Shikamaru's clan is known for making medicine from the horns of the deers in their forest, they've done so for years to off-set the poison in the Akimichi clan's pills, don't twist the facts to support your argument, they have plenty of experience in the medical field for that certain situation.
And please PLEASE show me where I was comparing the two. I simply stated that Sakura had the highest grades, as in test grades in her class which is fact. She wasn't ranked the best in her class because she was sub par in combat. I've never debated that she is smarter than Shikamaru, only that she is smart and her intelligence is superior to his in a certain field of study, a.k.a the Medical Field.
Could Shikamaru have made a cure for Kankuro on the spot like Sakura did? No. And even if he could, he lacks Sakura's chakra control to perfrom the technique required to remove the poison from Kankuro or to examine him in the first place.
And while Shikamaru and his fathers IQ make them incredibly valuable from a military standpoint, the only reason they are that valuable is because they have years of experience fighting wars and other ninjas. You couldn't just drop Stephen Hawkings into a war zone and expect him to devise strategies to win battles.
The test with questions that should be beyond a Genin too answer were a smokescreen yes. So is the whole spying/cheating part of it. ALL of it was just context to make them believe Ibiki's scenerio. Ibiki's purpose was to make them leave the room, if you can avoid the interrogation specialist from getting in your head and make you leave then you pass the test, that's all.
Anyway, Sakura filling out the answers while Shikamaru didn't is not proof of anything at all. Asuma SPECIFICALLY stated that Shikamaru was too lazy to pick up a pencil, even for a test. And we have hardly seen enough of Shikaku's ninjutsus too definitively say what he lacked the ability, skill and knowledge to create.
And Orochimaru, Kabuto and the Akatsuki are not in a class of their own sheerly by their skill and talent. Most of their crucial ninjutsu are Kinjutsu, Forbidden ones. The kind that requires human sacrifices and mutilating and experimenting on one's body. Yeah, guys like Shikaku doesn't go for that stuff.
And saying that shikamaru is just too lazy to pick up a pencil isn't a good reasoning but rather it's just an excuse. It's pretty obvious that those exam is beyond of shikamaru's knowledge.
Here it was clearly stated that he is too lazy to pick up the pencil and always sleep through exams. Who are we to say he is lying ? Are we just gonna assume that everything we don't like is a lie ?
Furthermore, it was stated by Kishimoto in the Databook that Shikamaru is smarter than Sakura as he has higher intelligence state than her. With this I suppose no one can say she is smarter than him anymore.
Shikamaru did a great job to defeat the ginkin brothers. ( well, t'was really ino but watevahh)
Shikamaru did a very good job on stopping obito's movement even though it's just merely a seconds.
Now for sakura.
Sakura may already healed a hundred/s ninjas.
Sakura is the one who found out about those white zetsus who had yamato's DNA/mokuton to make them stronger. And obito/madara had hashirama's DNA.
Sakura found out that zetsu had the ability to copy everyone's chakra.
For me, sakura is more use full than shikamaru in this war.
He doesn't? Or he can't?
Shikaku can't bodyswap with people because he doesn't have that ability or talents.
Shikaku can't experiment himself because he doesn't have the talent or skills or knowledge.
Shikaku can't create a barrier or a seal or a powerful jutsu because he doesn't have the skills/talent and knowledge.
So, shikaku is just a tactician/strategist. That's his ability. He's one of the genius and possess one of the highest IQ in the konoha, but his amazing IQ/intelligent is just for strategy and tactics. His brilliant mind can't create a powerful barrier, his brilliant IQ can't create a powerful jutsu, his brilliant and amazing brain can't create a forbidden jutsu. That's the truth about shikaku. He's just a planner and an advisor. Nothing more, nothing less.