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    Israeli–Palestinian conflict (Recent Developments)

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8AD0WP20121115

    Well the ongoing conflict between Israel and Palestine has been having some new developments recently. After a period that was supposed to be more of a diplomatic battle now has turned into a path way to war. What do you think of the newest news coming from this front?

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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict (Recent Developments)

    When was it ever a diplomatic battle? Hamas and Israel have never had open lines of diplomacy. Israel most recently invaded Gaza just four years ago. This is more of the same, nothing new at all for this region. The Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza are hostile towards each other. There is no direct political coordination between the two entities. Israeli policy towards one though can effect popular opinion in the other, particularly in Gaza, where Hamas uses Israeli policy in East Jerusalem and the West Bank for propaganda purposes. Current Israeli - Palestinian Authority relations would best be described as a Cold War. There is no open armed conflict, nor any real threat, but both entities are openly hostile diplomatically. The PA does recognize Israel's right to exist within the 1948 boundaries, and is currently pushing for a two state solution. Hamas does not recognize Israel's right to exist, openly calling for their complete annihilation. Hamas does not maintain diplomatic relations with Israel, while Israel considers them a "terrorist organization", not to be negotiated with.

    Before anyone asks: both sides are to blame. If you're looking for hero's they have to be manufactured, there are only villains. An ugly conflict with no real end in sight.

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    What is of most interest to me is how the revolution in Egypt effects the Hamas - Israeli conflict. Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi represents the Freedom and Justice Party, the Muslim Brotherhood's political arm. Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood. The Gaza Strip was also formerly administered by the Egyptians, prior to the Six Day War. Egypt currently has vowed to back Gaza against Israeli aggression, though it is doubtful this backing will amount to full military intervention. Even without military intervention, Egypt taking a hardline against Israel for the first time since Camp David could be enough to alter the nature of the conflict. Since 1979 Egyptian non-interference has been the cornerstone of Israeli policy towards the occupied territories.

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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict (Recent Developments)

    Well there were probably a few attempts but by the West to keeps things or at least make things look like they were heading in a good direction. That news a few months ago about Palestine trying to get a seat at the UN?

    Though this may seem like some progress : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_...inians_in_2010

    But a historic conflict like this with many proxy wars does resemble the cold war. But the thing is that Israel sort of has the upper hand militarily and politically in this. They are a recognized state, that makes the problem historic. As all things, what happened in the past vastly influences now. Winner write history though. But the state of Israel is not created like other historical states. That is the problem, so if Palestine as a state was also created the way Israel was, that would even it out a bit. Still the way that Palestine is presenting itself here does not dwell good for them, since they respond to provocation the way Israel responds to their provocations.

    But I am a bit confused as to how the US currently in looking at this problem? I have read a bit, but still a bit foggy, as far as I know they are currently supportive of the Muslim Brotherhood? And as well as Palestine? Are they turning their back on the old allies?

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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict (Recent Developments)

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    Re: Israeli–Palestinian conflict (Recent Developments)

    Well it seems things have cooled down. It is a small development but it really reflects the overall conflict again, they killed a lot of people for no reason again. And so it continues till the next time things start up on a bigger scale like so. Even though I am not sure if the cease fire is a done deal, yet.

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