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Madara wipes the floor with The Alliance, Meteor no Jutsu style.
Obito decides to finally use his Rinnegan and Chou Shinra Tensei The Alliance
Ino controls the Juubi and makes it eat Madara and Obito
Sasuke crashes the party and every fangirl screams
Hinata reveals she's the mastermind behind the Juubi, and backstabs Naruto
Juubi & Co decide they are suddenly weaker and let the Alliance do their thing while standing still like robots
Juubi does NOT fire his Bijuuhameha at the Alliance and patiently waits until Kyuubi is ready to dance
i wonder how kishi is going to play the allies facing madara..i don't think madara wants to play anymore with this children so my just use a big ass jutsu to get rid of them but of course naruto will protect them with kurama's chakra and may be showing the perfect form of kyuubi mode...
i hope madara wipe the floor with the allies for a while and make them what true fear feels like until naruto not jutsu again..
As for Orochimaru, I liken him to Voldemort int he fact that he's essentially split his soul up into pieces. It would seem, that every person that received the Cursed Seal of Heaven (Sasuke and Anko) got a piece of his soul. Now, we know two things about his soul.
1) Part of it is the Death God with the 4 Original Hokages.
2) Most of it, including the part he sealed with Sasuke, is in Itachi's Sword which is safe to say is unrecoverable.
The rest, and what is powering the current Orochimaru, was left in Anko. IMO, even with absorbing himself out of Kabuto, this Orochimaru can't be that strong. IMO, he was at his strongest while fighting Sarturobi, and yet he didn't even go all out in that fight, he simply let the Hokages fight for him. It would be interesting to see what that Orochimaru was capable of.
And the whole reason Itachi severed his hand was so Oro could not free himself....which is what he was trying to do when the hand was cut off.
and i think Orochimaru and the CS were out before harry potter(which i like to :3). so that means that Voldemort is like Orochimaru(lol just checked they both came out in 1997 lol)
i dont think we have seen the last of Orochimaru in terms of his power....i think what he has planned has nothing to do with obito and Madara..
Obito and Madara aren't obstacles to Naruto's belief. Neither of them are challenging his path. They're not like Nagato, who directly clashed with Naruto's own beliefs and defeated him by sticking to his own path. All Obito and Madara are is people for Naruto to beat up, which means nothing for proving his path is the correct way. And how was the Kyuubi an obstacle when it didn't even prove to be the problem it was suppose to be? the Kyuubi was suppose to have been a limiter to how long Naruo could use his cloak and the number of clones he could make, yet none of those limits ever came into play. Naruto never had to overcome any troubles in using his new powers, despite the big deal that was made about them.
And Itachi's point wasn't solely about ego. His point was quite reasonable. Naruto assuming that he should handle everything is just one step away from assuming he knew what was best, which obviously lead to him completely taking over and disregarding the opinions and advise of others. That's not how a leader should act. Sure, sometimes a leader needs to take command and do what needs to be done no matter what anyone says, but that should be a rare attitude.
As for right now, Orochimaru is at Sasuke's mercy. Even at full power, at this point he probably isn't a match for Sasuke, not while Sasuke has EMS.
and don't forget Oro hadn't any acces to his NINJUTSU when he faced 4 tail QB
Last edited by shafagh; December 04, 2012 at 02:38 PM.
Snake affinity is a good base for that comparison, exactly.
Since Kabuto revived the real Uchiha Madara and everything he knew was more or less came from Orochimaru, it's safe to say that he knew of them more than anybody else.
That's why I'm eagerly waiting for their arrival at that battlefield. I don't want to see them come around after everything is settled.
But TBH, sometimes I wonder about his arms being sealed. Because he seemed able to form some seals and perform some jutsu even without them. Only ni Pt. 1 did it appear to be an issue (before he changed bodies).
Anyways, we never saw him use elemental jutsu or anything (tha tI can remember), just pretty cool genjutsu, etc. Meh, who am I kidding, I have to look back at the Jiraiya fight.
Last edited by jalix; December 04, 2012 at 03:07 PM.
Thing is Naruto needs to prove he can save his friends. That is the point of it all. That is what the curent fight premise is about. What do you expect to see in this fight? Naruto is not fighting alone, he can't do it alone but he is putting up a fight because of the bounds he has with his friends and the entire ninja alliance.Quote:
Also Naruto is NOT having and easy time lol. No idea where you got that one. He was almost made to dust with the last attack if not for the alliance getting there.
Naruto is just proving that no matter what happends around himself he will never abandon his ninja way. He noticed over 60000(or what was the number i don't remember) ninja ending up dead, ninja that where PROTECTING HIM!
I seriously have no idea what you whant from Naruto, to lose Kakashi and then keep fighting? That would not prove much. Obito killing Kakashi in front of himself and then Naruto alowing him to live? Already PROVED he can do that to a man that not only killed Kakashi and half his village but also JMan himself.... Nothing left to prove that way man.
What he has not to prove is that he has the will and power to save the world just like Raikage stated when he tested Naruto right before he said how the saviour is alive in him.
Oh hell they are. He is curently proving himself to them(well more to Obito) that he is NOT going to become trash, that he CAN end the chain of hate and pain. Naruto more then fighting is demonstrating how he cares for biju's and his friends, saving them and not becoming TRASH.Quote:
Kyuubi and the rest of the bijus where an obstacle in the sense that he had to GAIN there trust and faith in his way. Kurama noticed in him the future of peace and prosperity that RS could NOT ACHIVE. Naruto had to prove his ninja way. The limiter on the clone was dust as Kyuubi started to care for Naruto as a direct result of NARUTO'S ACTIONS. Those limiters are irrelevant. What is relevant is how he was able to overcome Kyuubi hate, anger and mistrust for the world and prove to Kurama how he can bring peace and the great future RS set in motion back then.Quote:
I fail to see how you got to that from it. He wanted to stop Kabuto himself so nobody would get injured or dead. Its not like he belived his way was exacly better, he just belived he should be the one to take on this burden.Quote:
Anyway, if you go back and read just about any interview with Kishimoto, the theme of the series has always been "bonds." Pretty much every single storyline in Naruto revolves around or resolves because of them.
Even the current stuff with Obito revolves around bonds -- Obito's statement that people who leave behind their comrades are trash, Kakashi's failure to protect Rin, and Naruto's firm belief in Obito's philosphy which was passed down through Kakashi. Now Naruto's countless allies have arrived, and we also see the importance of the shinobi world itself forming these bonds and becoming a united front.
Meanwhile, Madara's philosphy would seem to be that the causal relationships creating suffering and pain (victors/vanquished, love/hate, light/dark) must be severed -- different types of bonds. Of course, I also suspect that he may well have been BSing Obito, and truly wants to create a world of perpetual war. After reading through this fight, it's hard to imagine Madara ever being happy in a world at peace.
As it stands, with the storyline is reaching what is almost certainly its climax, we have the entire shinobi world united against just two enemies and the progenitor of the tailed beasts. The only characters seperate from this action are the Taka and Orochimaru, and Sasuke's current frame of mind is that he's trying to grasp the meaning of concepts like "village," "clan," and so forth.
The final battle between will almost certainly revolve around the bond between Naruto and Sasuke, too.
So, yeah, people who complain about such plot developments are either missing the point or expecting a kind of storyline that Kishimoto has no intention of writing.
with the appearance of the alliance...kishi may switch over to sasuke and oro/taka.this would be a good point to do it...right
i think the kages will be later to maybe witness the alliance defeating madara and the jyuubi without their help...or show up to save a broken naruto from a raging sasuke...
we've already seen a little of the jyuubi's strength...so a sasuke arc seems inevitable
yeah,I guess we are gonna see hawk in the incoming chapter,but the spoiler must be fake! otherwise,kabuto would have summoned shisui too,wouldn't he?
Heh - I've been wondering about Yamato for a LONG time actually. And since Kabuto got punked and no longer has any snake DNA shouldn't Yamato automatically be able to break free of his love embrace with the Gedo tree?Quote:
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did u watch last weeks episode...yamato was decked out in some real ninja gear plus he wasn't wearing that weird head thingy