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    Re: Is Yamamoto Weaker than the Royal Guards?

    I'm of the opinion that Yamamoto was superior in combat strength vs. anyone from the current Zero Division. I think the SK judged that Yama was better suited serving as a CC than a RG, mostly due to his personality rather than prowess.

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    Re: Is Yamamoto Weaker than the Royal Guards?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kay3795 View Post
    Well we know they don't get promoted only because of contributions. Each member govern their own individual cities in the Royal Realm & there duty was made clear when Kirinji speedblitz Soifon. A bunch of noobs (even if they made the most contributions) ain't gonna be in the Royal Realm no matter what.
    They are not only resposible for the protecting of the Royal Realm, they also would clean un SS mess when SS is destroyed. To protect you need power.
    That looks like an exaggeration. I have never talked about a bunch of noobs here. You don't have to be a noob just to be placed under Captain-Commander in terms of power. Say, if one Royal Guard had 80% percent of the strength he had, would that person be incompetent to be a Royal Guard?
    We don't know if there was a Royal Guard and Hikifune replaced her 110 years ago. In all likelihood, up to that moment, there were just four Royal Guards and Hikifune's contributions were acknowledged by the Soul King and she got promoted. So, I don't think she would be making it to the Royal Dimension without her accomplishments.

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    Re: Is Yamamoto Weaker than the Royal Guards?

    I think Osho(Monk dude) and Nimaiya(Short black dude) are stronger than him while Shutamaru, Hikifune and Keninji are weaker than him.

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    Re: Is Yamamoto Weaker than the Royal Guards?

    Maybe...The question to me is: can Yamamoto go higher? Another way of putting it is Yama stuck at his current level of power? The Royal Guard are raising the bar. It may be possible to go higher.

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    Re: Is Yamamoto Weaker than the Royal Guards?

    Quote Originally Posted by En Yang Ji View Post
    Maybe...The question to me is: can Yamamoto go higher? Another way of putting it is Yama stuck at his current level of power? The Royal Guard are raising the bar. It may be possible to go higher.
    I don't think he can go higher, but I think the question: have we seen all of Yama's capability? is more accurate. Remember he did an non-incantation level 96 hadou when he's greatly injured and just before he loses consciousness? I wonder if he can throw a level 99 in his normal state. We also haven't seen him using kendo at all, because he only need a mere swing to cut anything. What if he actually used kendo along with his zanka no tachi North? will SS get split in half?? I don't know. But I think that we haven't seen the full extent of his power yet, all of his fight up until he died were handicaped.

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    Re: Is Yamamoto Weaker than the Royal Guards?

    for me Old Yama is the strongest shinigami in bleach.
    •he has the most destructive zanpakuto we have seen so far
    •he is pretty good at kido and hand to hand combat
    •has a lot experience

    all we know about the royal guard is that their combined power is superior than the G13. 13 vc that can barely make 2 decent captains and 12 captains (im not sure if shunsui includes Yama in the ecuation).

    for me the royal guards are between senior level (the weakest member) and aizen level (bald guy).

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    Re: Is Yamamoto Weaker than the Royal Guards?

    Yep he is weaker than the royal guards obvious Oetsu Nimaiya invented the Zanpakutou and he can take it back no matter what lol.

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    Re: Is Yamamoto Weaker than the Royal Guards?

    Quote Originally Posted by En Yang Ji View Post
    Maybe...The question to me is: can Yamamoto go higher? Another way of putting it is Yama stuck at his current level of power? The Royal Guard are raising the bar. It may be possible to go higher.
    Higher like keeping his shape and gaining experience. Sure. Or, he can become a transcedental.
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    Re: Is Yamamoto Weaker than the Royal Guards?

    Imo, if what Shunsui said was true, one RG member will have to be => than Yamamoto in order for them to be greater than the entire Gotei combined. This is assuming if Shunsui was including Yama in the first place.
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    Re: Is Yamamoto Weaker than the Royal Guards?

    I dont think so. Its hard to tell though because we dont know which Gotei 13 Shunsui was talking about. If he was refering to the Gotei 13 that had Aizen and Yama then i would say that they are all on Aizen / Juha Bach level. Not quite ion Yama's but very close. 5 Aizen's could beat Yama plus the other captains fairly easily. If Shunsui meant that they are stronger than the current Gotei 13, then it probably means that they are all stronger than top captains, Shunsui, Shiinji, Unohana by a considerable margin but not on Aizen / Yama level.

    One thing though, how come Yama did not get an invitation into the RG? I mean he created the G13 and the Shinigami Academy. IMO that is a bigger accomplishment than the Gikon at least and probably on par with creating the healing techs. Obviously the Zanpaktou creator would top the list so far but still Yama did achieve something monumental.
    Thank You Kubo...You have proven once and for all, that Yamamoto Genryuusai is STRONGER THAN AIZEN SOUSUKE despite what the fanboys think

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    Re: Is Yamamoto Weaker than the Royal Guards?

    Yamamoto said about 1000 years, so what if one of those or even all are actually older than 1000 years?

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    Re: Is Yamamoto Weaker than the Royal Guards?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuza View Post
    Yamamoto said about 1000 years, so what if one of those or even all are actually older than 1000 years?
    At least Hikifune was serving under Yama some 100+ yrs ago, and I can't imagine her actually being older than 1000 yrs...
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    Re: Is Yamamoto Weaker than the Royal Guards?

    People really want to believe the RG are weaker then Yama. Why would he say "greater then the entire Gotei 13?" he meant even the CC.

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    Re: Is Yamamoto Weaker than the Royal Guards?

    Quote Originally Posted by LordZet View Post
    People really want to believe the RG are weaker then Yama. Why would he say "greater then the entire Gotei 13?" he meant even the CC.
    I personally think, that Masked Shinji with Sakanade multiplied by 5 would be able to do that too. And with Bankai... who knows. The same goes for Kyoraku and Ukitake. They could hold their ground against CC. If there was 5 of them they'd win against CC. Not sure about fighting all of G13 at once.

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    Re: Is Yamamoto Weaker than the Royal Guards?

    Quote Originally Posted by vizardichigo View Post
    I dont think so. Its hard to tell though because we dont know which Gotei 13 Shunsui was talking about. If he was refering to the Gotei 13 that had Aizen and Yama then i would say that they are all on Aizen / Juha Bach level. Not quite ion Yama's but very close. 5 Aizen's could beat Yama plus the other captains fairly easily. If Shunsui meant that they are stronger than the current Gotei 13, then it probably means that they are all stronger than top captains, Shunsui, Shiinji, Unohana by a considerable margin but not on Aizen / Yama level.

    One thing though, how come Yama did not get an invitation into the RG? I mean he created the G13 and the Shinigami Academy. IMO that is a bigger accomplishment than the Gikon at least and probably on par with creating the healing techs. Obviously the Zanpaktou creator would top the list so far but still Yama did achieve something monumental.
    Lol this post and few others makes me laugh you all love to use Aizen as a tool to compare power. Aizen is not and i will emphasis the 'not' here comparable to Unohana for one she's a frigging kenpachi in no way shape or form would Aizen be on par with her, and no matter how smart he was or how hax his Zan is, Unohana could obliterate him.... The only two that i will say Aizen may of been on par with was Shunsui or Ukitake.

    Anyway i think Yama had too much blood on his hands to consider going to RG, he was the strongest for a reason and that reason was to keep the shinigami vets (older gen) in line so that didnt cause an imbalance by killing everyone on site, so i feel yama was stronger in his youth then all the RG and G13(of today) but as time took its toll Yama became kind of soft due to his father like way with the current G13
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