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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
I'm of the opinion that Yamamoto was superior in combat strength vs. anyone from the current Zero Division. I think the SK judged that Yama was better suited serving as a CC than a RG, mostly due to his personality rather than prowess.
And no I won't define how I see strength or competency in an internet forum unless, somehow, I absolutely have to.
We don't know if there was a Royal Guard and Hikifune replaced her 110 years ago. In all likelihood, up to that moment, there were just four Royal Guards and Hikifune's contributions were acknowledged by the Soul King and she got promoted. So, I don't think she would be making it to the Royal Dimension without her accomplishments.
I think Osho(Monk dude) and Nimaiya(Short black dude) are stronger than him while Shutamaru, Hikifune and Keninji are weaker than him.
Maybe...The question to me is: can Yamamoto go higher? Another way of putting it is Yama stuck at his current level of power? The Royal Guard are raising the bar. It may be possible to go higher.
for me Old Yama is the strongest shinigami in bleach.
•he has the most destructive zanpakuto we have seen so far
•he is pretty good at kido and hand to hand combat
•has a lot experience
all we know about the royal guard is that their combined power is superior than the G13. 13 vc that can barely make 2 decent captains and 12 captains (im not sure if shunsui includes Yama in the ecuation).
for me the royal guards are between senior level (the weakest member) and aizen level (bald guy).
Yep he is weaker than the royal guards obvious Oetsu Nimaiya invented the Zanpakutou and he can take it back no matter what lol.
Imo, if what Shunsui said was true, one RG member will have to be => than Yamamoto in order for them to be greater than the entire Gotei combined. This is assuming if Shunsui was including Yama in the first place.
I dont think so. Its hard to tell though because we dont know which Gotei 13 Shunsui was talking about. If he was refering to the Gotei 13 that had Aizen and Yama then i would say that they are all on Aizen / Juha Bach level. Not quite ion Yama's but very close. 5 Aizen's could beat Yama plus the other captains fairly easily. If Shunsui meant that they are stronger than the current Gotei 13, then it probably means that they are all stronger than top captains, Shunsui, Shiinji, Unohana by a considerable margin but not on Aizen / Yama level.
One thing though, how come Yama did not get an invitation into the RG? I mean he created the G13 and the Shinigami Academy. IMO that is a bigger accomplishment than the Gikon at least and probably on par with creating the healing techs. Obviously the Zanpaktou creator would top the list so far but still Yama did achieve something monumental.
Yamamoto said about 1000 years, so what if one of those or even all are actually older than 1000 years?
People really want to believe the RG are weaker then Yama. Why would he say "greater then the entire Gotei 13?" he meant even the CC.
Anyway i think Yama had too much blood on his hands to consider going to RG, he was the strongest for a reason and that reason was to keep the shinigami vets (older gen) in line so that didnt cause an imbalance by killing everyone on site, so i feel yama was stronger in his youth then all the RG and G13(of today) but as time took its toll Yama became kind of soft due to his father like way with the current G13