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The "Ape Titan" was more likely a scout from some unknow faction considering how surprised he was when seeing humans fighting and killing titans.
I recommend the Norse, Ymir is the God of Titans, on the same level as Odin, the ruler of all Norse Gods.
And even then, for someone that just knew Ymir previously it's way too off to regard her as "Sama" and "Great".
B - Seems more like the Titan just figured out it's actually not Ymir but just another snack.
While I don't know about him being an Half-Titan it's quite evident he is an Ally of Annie.Quote:
"The Right Flank is where she came from"
"I have a feeling she is looking for someone....Eren"
Reiner: But wasn't Rivaille's squad Eren is a part of supposed to be in charge of the right flank where she came from?
Where might Eren really be?
Armin to Reiner: "He should be in the safest spot....the back of the center."
Look at what Area of her Body Reiner is held at.
And Annie headed straight to Eren next.
Reiner being the one who proposed to save the Titan "Eren", Jean even questions if he's out of his mind.
Annie being the sole one to go along.
Last edited by Beatrice; January 14, 2013 at 02:44 PM.
Annie immediately running off to the center of the formation to find Eren is indeed questionable, but even if Reiner told her his location, that does not automatically mean he is her ally. There are at least two plausible explanations as to why he might tell her other than being her ally:
1) He thinks his life expectancy will increase exponentially if he is not near an intelligent titan. Letting her rampage through the whole operation also makes it less likely that they survive to make it back to safety.
2) He thinks that the only person capable of taking on an intelligent titan is another intelligent titan.
Reiner wanting to keep the titan alive to possibly gain more knowledge is not indicative of anything.
Evaluating Annie's motivation behind that statement is impossible given we know absolutely nothing about her goals and almost nothing about her motivations. (The only thing we know about her motivations is her father's statement for her to view the whole world as her enemy)
Can I just intervene and say let's not turn this into a "is Reiner a titan" debate, as we have a thread about that a few floors down below.
I think it does have to do with being hostile. Ymir clearly threw the first punch before they ganged up on her. As did Eren, when he took out a decent number before they preyed on him (during the second time the collossal titan appeared). There's probably more to it, but in Ymir and Eren's case, they did attack first.Quote:
As for whether Ymir is alive or dead, I'm leaning more with alive. While it's not clear how she lost her limbs, there's the possibility for her to grow them back (similar to Eren and his tooth, but on a larger scale I guess). It just seems too easy to die when you compare to what Annie did in the forest. Didn't she get mauled, manage to escape in her human form and then transform again in less than five minutes. Experience might be the difference, but compared to Eren, Ymir doesn't seem like a noob.
From the plot's perspective, she has the potential to provide insight into some behind the scenes stuff. I don't think Christa knows the entire story. And frankly, we should start moving to the revelation about the human-turned-titan thing in the next few chapters. As we've learned a few months ago, there is no breach in the wall.
Last edited by Knifeshade; January 14, 2013 at 10:14 PM.
Well I don't expect him to take a jab at every titan before they all crawled over him. What I mean is, as soon as a titan see you attacking them and not eating a human, you're an enemy. Case in point of your second URL, the smaller titan saw Eren emerge from the titan's belly and having its head stomped on before he jumped at Eren.
I'm sticking with my theory for now unless we see titans smashing Eren/Ymir when they're just chilling around doing nothing.
Not all Titans are buddy-buddy with each other. In chapter 39, there was a Titan who jumped on another and ripped an ear off.
Anyway, the first Titan who attacked Eren only did so after he and Eren had a stare down
Probably attacked Eren cause Eren was making it way too obvious he was going to attack him.
As for the second Titan, it didn't look like it was interested in Eren until Eren roared at him.
So, maybe there's a unspoken agreement amongst Titans to not mess with each other.
As for Annie, she's a bit more complicated. Right now, I think Annie lured all those Titans by hit and run. But I haven't a good explanation for how she got them all running into the forest unless Titans really are into cannibalism and can't wait to eat even each other when they sense/hear that a Titan's dead meat.
As for the Reiner being a Titan spy theory - right now, I don't think it looks like it. He looked very upset when Ymir turned out to be the Titan who ate his childhood friend. Also, with a back story like that, why would he be a spy for the Titans?
I wonder if Ymir actually knows much though. There's all these different factions after different things.
Last edited by ragna2400; January 15, 2013 at 07:58 PM.
Colossal titan and armored titan? Who knows, but I say doubtful. If they are part of a human-titan faction hell bent on the destruction of humanity, their actions are strange.
Annie? Who knows. Her actions are confusing and the fact that her father told her to treat the world as her enemy make it extremely unlikely.
Ape Titan? Likely. I highly doubt he randomly decided to cross the wall, turn people into titans (if that was what he did), grab a 3d gear, then leave for no apparent reason.
I'm actually of the opinion that there is no grand conspiracy and that almost all of the actions were done by rogue individuals/cells.
Second Titan does look mean but it may just be his default expression. (Eren's default expression looks mean because of all the teeth.) Also, that little Titan first appeared in volume 1 (http://www.mangareader.net/shingeki-no-kyojin/4/36), and already looked mean before Eren the Titan showed up.
Probably best to not judge on whether a Titan's angry based on his expression. There was a Titan who looked angry when his legs were blown off but another who kept on smiling even though half his head was blown off. And the little Titan who got his ear ripped out didn't look like he was mad while he was chomping on his attacker's arm.
Last edited by Knifeshade; January 16, 2013 at 06:15 AM.