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  • No way, Sakura will come in.... soon! A-and slap Hinata off him!

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  • Those two are dull, blonexblonde (NarutoxIno) ftw!

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Thread: Naruto 615 Discussion

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    Re: Naruto 615 Discussion / 616 Predictions

    honestly it doesnt seem like a real battle with madara just sitting back and enjoying the show....

    he has UNLIMITED CHAAKRA supposedly , what the hell is he just sitting back and grinning for, maybe he was just really bored after the fight with hashirama, and this is a form of entertainment to him...

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    Re: Naruto 615 Discussion / 616 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Kisame Hoshigaki View Post
    honestly it doesnt seem like a real battle with madara just sitting back and enjoying the show....

    he has UNLIMITED CHAAKRA supposedly , what the hell is he just sitting back and grinning for, maybe he was just really bored after the fight with hashirama, and this is a form of entertainment to him...
    He has a giant, invincible chakra monster to control, and he said last chap, if I'm not mistaken, that he can't let loose otherwise Obito might get caught up and die.
    And a dead Obito would mean no Jinchuuriki Madara and an instable Juubi

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    the only cool shinobi so far in this fight is madara, when madara speak, he always say something important and epic as a badass..
    but when he think about hashirama, he loose it all and goes naughty
    living in the darkness and now with a new light, i will raise to a new beginning...

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    Re: Naruto 615 Discussion / 616 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by xXan View Post
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    Now do you need a list of people putting there trust in Naruto? I can insert a long list here man. Even Itachi did that. Even the Kages. Naruto changed Gaara and Gaara changed Tsuck and the rest of people present there. Gaara was just following on Naruto's footsteps. Naruto is a great leder trough his ability and ideals. Even if he folters, we all do, we are humans but that is why we have FRIENDS.
    Man u can't be more right...even the genius Shikamaru said that to his dad when J-man passed out. '' there is something in this guy that makes me stand up and follow him''. The very words Shukaku(spells?) remembered when his decided to let Naruto pass when his was at his way to see Nagato...remember?

    It seems many folks read this manga since years but don't understand a damn thing. Or they would like that to be a fairy tale so their own dreams can come true...i dunno

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    Re: Naruto 615 Discussion / 616 Predictions

    Very good chapter! Kyuubi loo

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    Re: Naruto 615 Discussion / 616 Predictions

    I fully agree on the previous comments about Kishi's "gift" to describe romance (quite as good as his "gift" to draw boobs...)

    I was expecting some flashbacks about Neji, but finally no. I'm a little bit disappointed, I don't like flashbacks but I thought Neji was important enough to focus on him. But finally no :'(


    Naruto as the same expression when Hinata is slapping him or confessing him

    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-442-12/...apter-437.html

    On the chapter itself, I think it is good, and I don't think Sakura could win over Hinata now. For me the hope for Naru/Sakura couple has been dead since Pein's arc (and maybe even earlier...).


    I don't like how Obito is behaving with Naruto, as it reminds me Pein (a fight, a question, another fight, Naruto's answer, Pein being nice and reviving everyone). I hope Kishi will be more inventive and will surprise us!

    My main questions for the next chapters now are:
    - When the kage will be back ? Seeing the deaths on the last chapters makes me believe it is an introduction to Tsunade's death. And this can awake Sakura and give her "her moment" to help Naruto.
    - At what time Sasuke's will be back? Will he be the final boss? I mean I cannot see any link with him during this fight. I don't think he will agree on joining Madara's goal (ok to destroy Konoha but not sure he'll be interested in his plan), and for the alliance it will be too complicated to fight 3 Uchiha.

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    Re: Naruto 615 Discussion / 616 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by rumpus View Post
    Very good chapter! Kyuubi loo
    welcome on MH!! but...are you serious??? this chapter sucked,both obito and hinata's argumentation were meaningless,and inconsistent. was kishi's choice to prove they are dumb teenagers? but if it was,it was just a waste of time,imo...

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    Re: Naruto 615 Discussion / 616 Predictions

    I guess now that the Alliance strategy will revolve around Ino-Shika-Cho but infused with Kyuubi chakra, allowing them to overcome the Team Obito's abilites. I realize people were clamoring more for the Byakugan but a chakra battery probably was not what they had in mind. I can see Naruto fill Hinata to the rim with , err...chakra, and she would give that to other Hyuugas who could dispense it on the field. I could see them trying the same tactic again with Hinata giuidng Choji, Shikamaru, and Ino but Madara would see it coming as well. It probably would backfire he's not THAT stupid.
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    Re: Naruto 615 Discussion / 616 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha_Blood View Post
    Weren't you the one that complained that Naruto "was done growing", that "romance needed to be exploited" and all that?
    How is a 16 year old girl holding hands with the one she loves "dreadful" or "badly written", expecially after her little monologue when they all ran towards Naruto?
    Sure, Kishi could've summed up Hinata's TNJ in 1 or 2 pages, but damn then let's complain about every little thing

    "The sky is black, fuck you Kishi!"

    I often get the impression a lot of guys bash Naruto because it seems like you are the cool kid
    Of all the ones complaining, only chilibun and hakuteiken made strong points imo
    No no no. You misunderstand my problem isn't really with what was happened in the chapter it's the way it was written. I'm actually pretty happy Hinata stepped into the role she did(reinforcing Naruto). I'm not 100% thrilled by Naruto kicking the philosophical can down the road again but the fact that relying on others in a meaningful way as a larger part of his thinking is firm step in a better direction.

    That doesn't change that the way this all was written was truly truely awful. I was just reading the Tek Jansen graphic novel (Steven Colbert's early sci-fi parody) and the dialogue was remarkable similar to this chapter's, and it was actually trying to be written poorly).

    Normally I'm not one for calling out stuff for cheesy writing, or even bad writing, (for comics I set that bar pretty low) but the lines this chapter threw out there were.. just horrendous.

    Maybe they sound better in Japanese or maybe it's a translation issue, but reading the Mangastream version was like sailing down a river cheese. I almost did a legitimate spit take with my tea it was so bad.

    "Naruto's hand is.. so big.. so manly..but more importantly..it makes me feel safe."

    Say that out loud to yourself, I dare you. *Urp* here comes another wave of nausea.
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    Re: Naruto 615 Discussion / 616 Predictions

    Naruto is not grabbing Hinata's hand just because he need her help...

    Spoiler show

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    Re: Naruto 615 Discussion / 616 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Jammin View Post
    No no no. You misunderstand my problem isn't really with what was happened in the chapter it's the way it was written. I'm actually pretty happy Hinata stepped into the role she did(reinforcing Naruto). I'm not 100% thrilled by Naruto kicking the philosophical can down the road again but the fact that relying on others in a meaningful way as a larger part of his thinking is firm step in a better direction.

    That doesn't change that the way this all was written was truly truely awful. I was just reading the Tek Jansen graphic novel (Steven Colbert's early sci-fi parody) and the dialogue was remarkable similar to this chapter's, and it was actually trying to be written poorly).

    Normally I'm not one for calling out stuff for cheesy writing, or even bad writing, (for comics I set that bar pretty low) but the lines this chapter threw out there were.. just horrendous.

    Maybe they sound better in Japanese or maybe it's a translation issue, but reading the Mangastream version was like sailing down a river cheese. I almost did a legitimate spit take with my tea it was so bad.

    "Naruto's hand is.. so big.. so manly..but more importantly..it makes me feel safe."

    Say that out loud to yourself, I dare you. *Urp* here comes another wave of nausea.
    yeah well, they are kids so its fine ( and that line did make me chuckle out loud ), but its also how japanese people perceive things like that, you know, how they conceive the hands or the back of a person as something that reflects their growth ( a big hand/back=a reassuring, mature person ).
    I'll probably completely agree with you tomorrow, right now I'm still full of optimism by seeing Obito not being TnJ'ed yet, Lord Madara being his usual awesome self and Hinata slapping Naruto

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    Re: Naruto 615 Discussion / 616 Predictions

    in the end,neji hasn't ever proved to deserve being a jonin. he should have been the strongest rookie,after naruto and sasuke,although lee might overcome him with some gates. yet,choji is clearly the strongest now,hence neji has just been ridiculized...

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    Re: Naruto 615 Discussion / 616 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by mattiaildivino View Post
    in the end,neji hasn't ever proved to deserve being a jonin. he should have been the strongest rookie,after naruto and sasuke,although lee might overcome him with some gates. yet,choji is clearly the strongest now,hence neji has just been ridiculized...
    Neji was the sacrifical lamb that ignited the good guys counterattack, he fit the unfortunate role of the guys not important enough to get plot shield but important enough to get a reaction by readers, expecially considering they're still airing an anime about Team Gai

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    Re: Naruto 615 Discussion / 616 Predictions

    Oh well. Never thought Kishi would be this in your face with the NaruHina. I'll take it since there was no way at this point to write some great romance. It is what it is. NaruHina always felt right. No matter how much Kishi screwed with it.

    And who would of thought Hinata would be the new Rin and not Sakura? Obito will likely target Naruto's new girlfriend.

    It seems Kishi has entered fanservice mode as the manga is ending. Hopefully he will finish some of the other couples now so we can see who will be with who for the next generation.

    Next chapter we should see Shikaku's last plan in action.

    Quote Originally Posted by TimeMask View Post
    On my review I said they may do a combo attack as Hinata is surrounded by Naruto's chakra on the last page. Maybe Hinata's eyesight is what will help Naruto? as he has the Kyubi which acts like a susanoo. So there's not much Hinata can do to attack unless Naruto runs out of chakra.
    I am thinking more of Hinata's eyesight helping Ino again for the big Ino-Shika-Cho combo.

    Powering up all the K11 seems to be where this is heading and Shikaku's plan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Calyce View Post

    I was expecting some flashbacks about Neji, but finally no. I'm a little bit disappointed, I don't like flashbacks but I thought Neji was important enough to focus on him. But finally no :'(
    It is sad that after being ignored for so long, Neji basically died as pairing fodder. And for a pairing he wasn't even apart of.

    It also looks like he might be the only one to die outside of Shikaku and Inoichi. Which means he isn't coming back.

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    Re: Naruto 615 Discussion / 616 Predictions

    I was really liking the chapter when Obito was talking; but just then Hinata came and ruined the chapter for me.....

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