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Thread: Naruto 615 Discussion

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    Re: Naruto 615 Discussion / 616 Predictions | NO CHAPTER UNTIL Jan 15/16

    Quote Originally Posted by Hakuteiken View Post
    So, after more than half of the Shinobi world died, mountains were destroyed, the hell surfaced on the real world, Sasuke will come out and say he will destroy Konoha, hmm..

    Of course he will. We are not dealing a normal person here. Sasuke went mad will the trauma's he suffered, MAD I tell you hehehe. And only a talk no jutsu and a beating from Naruto will cure him. Even with all the stuff that happened in the war, there's still plenty of Konoha shinobi alive, not the mention civillians, even little babies and all like Asuma's kid muhahahaha.

    But even if Itachi made Sasuke softer in relation to Konoha, if my theory comes true, and Sasuke wants to perform Mugen Tuskuyomi to "revive" the Uchiha, he will have to face the Alliance anyway.

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    Re: Naruto 615 Discussion / 616 Predictions | NO CHAPTER UNTIL Jan 15/16

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiten View Post
    If Danzou were real he would be a wanted criminal, the ICC would have issued an arrest warrant for crimes against humanity. There would be no gray zone, Root alone would be enough reason to prosecute him. Brainwashing war orphans from a young age, stripping them of any identity, and turning them into teenage soldiers, is very much against international law. There is no question that Konoha would be forced to turn him over for prosecution, or face sanctions for harboring a criminal. Danzou would be sentenced to life in prison if he were real. Acting for Konoha's sake would not have anything to do with it. In the eyes of the law he would be every bit the criminal as Orochimaru, Tobi and Akatsuki. In moral terms too, he would be every bit the criminal.
    That is, if his crimes were known and has no protection. While turning orphans into soldiers is against the law, it hasn't stopped many groups or nations from doing it.

    However, we're talking about manga, not real life.

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    Applying real world historical and political standards to a manga with such a simplistic (accepting others for they are can end all conflict. bullshit.) world view as Naruto is kind of a fail anyway. Naruto is really no more than an analogy about how to fit in, make friends, and overcome bullying in middle and high school. Ksihi tried to mix in politics and morals in a lame attempt to emulate FMA. He must not have realized that FMA really was about science, religion, and politics, while Naruto is, and remains, a coming of age story (most Jump manga are). FMA was never bogged down by concepts like the "will of fire" and "power of hate", which make a lot of sense if growing up is the main theme, but are incredibly simple minded when discussing adult life. Pain makes a lot more sense as a high school bully than he does as leader of a terrorist organization. Danzou makes more sense as a domineering vice-principal than he does as majordomo of a major nation.
    If you say so. All I see is Kishi trying to make a parallel - how some countries have people like Danzou, how some countries' wars affect other countries, like with Amegakure being affected by Konoha's war, and etc.

    Nice analogies though. Feels like you're mocking Naruto.

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    Re: Naruto 615 Discussion / 616 Predictions | NO CHAPTER UNTIL Jan 15/16

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiten View Post
    If Danzou were real he would be a wanted criminal, the ICC would have issued an arrest warrant for crimes against humanity. There would be no gray zone, Root alone would be enough reason to prosecute him. Brainwashing war orphans from a young age, stripping them of any identity, and turning them into teenage soldiers, is very much against international law. There is no question that Konoha would be forced to turn him over for prosecution, or face sanctions for harboring a criminal. Danzou would be sentenced to life in prison if he were real. Acting for Konoha's sake would not have anything to do with it. In the eyes of the law he would be every bit the criminal as Orochimaru, Tobi and Akatsuki. In moral terms too, he would be every bit the criminal.
    To be fair though, Root hardly seems out of the ordinary. So far the only difference between it and the regular training is that the children are made to fight each other. Most of Danzo's actions, while seemingly wrong, don't seem criminal by the village's standard.

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    Re: Naruto 615 Discussion / 616 Predictions | NO CHAPTER UNTIL Jan 15/16

    Quote Originally Posted by Rikudou King View Post
    To be fair though, Root hardly seems out of the ordinary. So far the only difference between it and the regular training is that the children are made to fight each other. Most of Danzo's actions, while seemingly wrong, don't seem criminal by the village's standard.
    Very true considering they are in fact Shinobi first and foremost. It would make sense that villages like Kumo, and especially Kirigakure (obviously) have divisions similar to Root even if we never read about it.
    I am convinced that Madara Uchiha used Izanagi on the entire story. Even Kishimoto was affected.

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    Re: Naruto 615 Discussion / 616 Predictions | NO CHAPTER UNTIL Jan 15/16

    Personally, I think that Sasuke will eventually come to the conclusion that Konohagakure needs to be destroyed because the concept of the "village" needs to be destroyed.

    The Alliance itself essentially proves this to be true. The villages create walls and conflict between shinobi, they become tools and pawns to fight in wars. With the concept of villages destroyed and replaced by a truly unified shinobi world, there will be a greater possibility for meaningful peace.

    What he'll ultimately destroy is the idea of Konohagakure as an independant military force, but not its spirit or will.

    At least, that's how I see his desire ultimately being reconciled while allowing him to find redemption at the same time.
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    Re: Naruto 615 Discussion / 616 Predictions | NO CHAPTER UNTIL Jan 15/16

    one thing, i hope that kishi lead sasuke to the best path for the manga, i still don't see sasuke wanting to go back to konoha and being a regular shinobi..
    i wonder if sasuke have a baby with a regular shinoni girl, the kid could obtained sharingan while not being pure blood..
    living in the darkness and now with a new light, i will raise to a new beginning...

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    Re: Naruto 615 Discussion / 616 Predictions | NO CHAPTER UNTIL Jan 15/16

    Naruto's emotion in begening of this chapter :
    http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/615/4

    Naruto's emotion in end of this chapter ( after 2 minutes !!! ) :
    http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/615/18

    ...........

    IMO Naruto's is psycho .... his emotion has no balance .... in only two minutes he turned from a completely broken and despair person to energetic and undeviating person ...

    or maybe this is another miracle of TNJ
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    Re: Naruto 615 Discussion / 616 Predictions | NO CHAPTER UNTIL Jan 15/16

    Quote Originally Posted by shafagh View Post
    Naruto's emotion in begening of this chapter :
    http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/615/4

    Naruto's emotion in end of this chapter ( after 2 minutes !!! ) :
    http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/615/18

    ...........

    IMO Naruto's is psycho .... his emotion has no balance .... in only two minutes he turned from a completely broken and despair person to energetic and undeviating person ...

    or maybe this is another miracle of TNJ
    kishi wasted so many pages with that emotion and naruto's broken will bt obito..
    all those emotion, kishi could had cover it in 3 pages and not wasting the first chapter of the year..
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    Re: Naruto 615 Discussion / 616 Predictions | NO CHAPTER UNTIL Jan 15/16

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    kishi wasted so many pages with that emotion and naruto's broken will bt obito.. all those emotion, kishi could had cover it in 3 pages and not wasting the first chapter of the year..
    Pretty much this. Though I would argue that it was artificial, forced, and unrealistic for Naruto to require "snapping out of it" at all at this point in the manga. He's grown way past that, and having to have Hinata and Kurama (of all people) keep him from getting "talk no jutsued" by Obito was absolutely ridiculous. Terrible writing. It was fakey, stupid, and totally unnecessary.
    Hidan... Naruto's ONLY real villain!

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    Re: Naruto 615 Discussion / 616 Predictions | NO CHAPTER UNTIL Jan 15/16

    You're right. It would be more realistic if a bunch of his comrades getting torn to pieces by giant splinters didn't phase him at all.

    Not.

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    Re: Naruto 615 Discussion / 616 Predictions | NO CHAPTER UNTIL Jan 15/16

    Quote Originally Posted by Invader View Post
    Pretty much this. Though I would argue that it was artificial, forced, and unrealistic for Naruto to require "snapping out of it" at all at this point in the manga. He's grown way past that, and having to have Hinata and Kurama (of all people) keep him from getting "talk no jutsued" by Obito was absolutely ridiculous. Terrible writing. It was fakey, stupid, and totally unnecessary.
    Well, this is the first time in the war he lost a friend right in front of him, not being able to do anything to protect him. Naruto's tried so far to avoid losing anyone, but he failed in this instance. You can't expect him to not be upset for a while. If he did get talk no jutsu'd or even close to it, then I'd have raged, to be honest.

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    Re: Naruto 615 Discussion / 616 Predictions | NO CHAPTER UNTIL Jan 15/16

    Quote Originally Posted by Invader View Post
    Pretty much this. Though I would argue that it was artificial, forced, and unrealistic for Naruto to require "snapping out of it" at all at this point in the manga. He's grown way past that, and having to have Hinata and Kurama (of all people) keep him from getting "talk no jutsued" by Obito was absolutely ridiculous. Terrible writing. It was fakey, stupid, and totally unnecessary.
    ow really...so if your close friend of family member was killed right in front of you... you wouldnt cry...you would stand strong all the time...give him a break he lost so many people that losing more is hard on him... but hinata snapped naruto out of the frenzy just like minato did when naruto started to show more tails becouse naruto through that pain killed hinata

    there were many other more wasted chapters... this at least showed hinatas changing from the shy and losing conciousnes at firs naruto sight...to strong person so few pages after 600chapers of waiting is ok for me

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    Re: Naruto 615 Discussion / 616 Predictions | NO CHAPTER UNTIL Jan 15/16

    It's a manga, not a 120 minutes blockbuster where the author is able to feed this situation with music, flashbacks, etc that will last nearly half an hour. If Kishi wrote that situation in 3 panels everyone would be upset. If Kishi wrote that situation over 3-4 chapters everyone would be bored. It's okay the way it was, and it was necessary. We all know that! It was forshadowed by Pain, that Naruto will face death in an upcoming war. Naruto had to accept the fact that he can't deal with everything all by himself and that this war is about every single shinobi / human. Now we can move on for some ass kicking action.
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    Re: Naruto 615 Discussion / 616 Predictions | NO CHAPTER UNTIL Jan 15/16

    http://www.shonenjump.com/e/weeklyshonenjump/next.html

    I found this, does this mean no chapter til 21st?? Or do we get them earlier and what not? How does this works for us?


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    Re: Naruto 615 Discussion / 616 Predictions | NO CHAPTER UNTIL Jan 15/16

    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto2011 View Post
    http://www.shonenjump.com/e/weeklyshonenjump/next.html

    I found this, does this mean no chapter til 21st?? Or do we get them earlier and what not? How does this works for us?
    we usually get the chapter 5-6 days before the Japan release, the one you linked is a normal release, so expect the chapter to come out on the usual time

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