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Yes, Hinata is thinking about Naruto's big, strong
hand and holding it tightly
No way, Sakura will come in.... soon! A-and slap Hinata off him!
Those two are dull, blonexblonde (NarutoxIno) ftw!
We all know the only one Naruto cares to be paired with is Sasuke
Naruto will die, pairingless.
Why? We all know Naruto will get all the bitches in the end
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Sasuke wasn't that great of a guy. He was at his moral best against Gaara, but was swayed by the Sound Five like Kakashi's talk meant absolutely nothing. I get the feeling we're really not going to come to any sort of agreement until we learn the real truth behind the massacre.
Wait, Sasuke already had his 'great loss' when he did all those great things (saving Naruto, facing down Gaara). Itachi did more to warp Sasuke than Oro and Tobi combined.
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Not all of them are Madara either. And before saying "But they all had the potential to be another Madara", remember that they all had the potential to be another Itachi or Shisui aswell. Even with all the "Obito and Sasuke proved Danzou's point" BS, you'd have to prove to me that he had ANY genuine proof that this would happen and wasn't just being a genocidal worry wort. He wanted the children dead based on what he believed they might do, while Sarutobi wanted to spare them based on what he believed they could be. Sarutobi's choice was based on the relationship he had with the Uchiha originally. It had a foundation. Danzou's choice was based on fear.Originally Posted by badluckartist
Shisui attempted to stop the coup from taking place using Kotoamatsukami, but couldn't due to Danzou's interferance. Hence, giving the second eye to Itachi inorder to make sure he did what he couldn't. Yes he failed, but he attempted to change things at the cost of both of his eyes, and THEN his life. Shisui's got nothing to prove to us. I'd even go as far as to say he has a more heroic background than Itachi because he didn't deem killing the entire clan a good idea. Regardless, both made dire sacrifices to protect the village.Quote:
As for everyone treating his like shit, this is also plot, considering Kushina had a somewhat normal life with people not knowing she was a Jinchuuriki Hiruzen could've done the same.
Hiruzen did way worse saying to everyone in the village that Naruto was a Jinchuuriki imo
But it's a little odd. We don't know of any family of Tobirama, or any other relatives of Hashirama, etc. Hell TBH, I sometimes even wonder if Tobirama and Hashirama were truly blood brothers. Otherwise the straight lack of 'senju' vs. 'uchiha' as it were in the village is beyond bizarre. it's as if to say, it's hard to imagine teh "Uchiha" losing out on controlling the village with the senju population being represented similar to how it is thus far in the manga.
i find it hard to believe that these persons were not capable ninja seeing that their parents were hashirama and hiruzen respectively...how were they not powerhouses?
because they may just have been civilians....the same as the uchiha who were just shopkeepers and merchants(remember the old lady sasuke use to call auntie)....
now as far as the uchiha taking over...it would not have happened in a straight on village vs clan fight/standoff...hence them plotting a secret seige of the village.even though the senju are/were low in numbers...there were enough konoha shinobi to be atleast 2 to 1 verse the uchiha.that in itself would have been the clans weakness/downfall...especially most uchiha if not the whole clan barring itachi/shisui didn't have MS.
i would tend to believe that their plan would have been to systematically take out targets individually...such as the danzos,hiruzens,anbus and then down the line with the jonins...never as the full clan in an all out assault against all the other shinobi in the village.
now that would have been quite foolish...imo
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it was so important to hiruzen for the tradition of the ino-shika-cho formation/team...these families may not have been direct senju but may have been direct offshoots of the clan through marriages...2nd cousins...
where the uzumakis were 1st cousins...
the first nara,akimichi and yamanakas may have very well been generals to hashirama/tobirama's predecessors...this too would explain why their team formation is so important to konohagakure's tradition....
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obviously he knew the legend that the uchiha possessed the sage's eyes...so in hind sight...he had to have known that the senju/uzumaki possessed the body.
now wasn't he looking for the perfect body?
a jinchuuriki he passed on to pursue a child who had just barely tapped into his power...in fact...there was no such signs that implied sasuke would be as powerful as oro anticipated.
i would love to see what he has to say about naruto now...and the chance he overlooked being infactuated with the sharingan.
Last edited by gnut; January 08, 2013 at 05:12 PM.
he already had karin,to study her body . he wanted sasuke to learn how to make all the techniques,and the whole truth behind the world. in vol.62 he stated sasuke's body is still is target,although it'd be fun if he somehow redeemed himself,as making him the main villain would just be fat-fetched now...
1. Obito will turn Good again...(It's obvious hehe)
2. Madara's Rampage!! (Kill All the Shinobi Alliance Except Naruto... Obito use ST Jutsu to save him)
3. Obito Transplant the Rinnengan to Naruto... and Obito Died....(Don't Ask me Why hehe)
4. Rinnengan Naruto vs Edo Madara+Juubi then Naruto Win xD
5. Naruto use Gedō: Rinne Tensei no Jutsu! to revive All the Shinobi Alliance
6. Sasuke trash Oro for the Second time...
7. And Finaly The Last Battle Super Haxx Sasuke vs Super Haxx Naruto
8. Naruto Win End of Manga...
9. Konohamaru Manga Begins( I hope So... haha)
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And even minato himself stated that the reason why hiruzen never told naruto or the konoha about minato as naruto's father is because of his enemies. Knowing naruto as minato's son, his enemies will gonna kill him for revenge.
lol what if in the end, kakashi is the really bad guy. it happen in soo many manga, the teacher become the last boss cause he was the evil guy right from the beginning, but we could never tell that he is. lol.
ok what happen if the person who know everything tell sasuke that hes the only one who could stop madara and they prepare him to be a equal level of madara.
i mean oro could give him senju DNA like how kabuto got all hes ability. or maybe obito give sasuke senju DNA.
i mean, obito want to SZ the gedo mazo with sasuke. but madara tell him that only someone with rinegan could control gedo mazo. and the reason he could control it was because hes half senju and half uchiha.
sasuke want to get the rinegan, he get senju DNA.
and he got a kid with karin..........just for a second. think how retard powerful that kid will be.
this is a list of hes ability and power.
1- sensor type
2-can use wood element
3-sharingan and when hes in trouble, he awake the rinegan like naruto with kurama.
4-he will have huge chackra and strength thanks to senju.
5-he learn alot of sealing jutsu only uzumaki could learn.
and with sasuke/kakashi teacher. he will be a monster.
Well, he'd only need a sacrifice if he was gonna use Edo Tensei to revive them. So far we've seen that dead characters can be spoken to via:Originally Posted by Bloomerwedgies
Their souls being preserved inside of a seal that opens under particular situations (Kushina, Minato, Orochimaru). Imagine Fugaku leaving a message for future generations incase they failed with the coup. Recorded into a scroll or whathaveyou.
Watching a recorded Genjutsu memory (like when Sasuke saw Itachi's conversations with Danzou and Sandaime through Genjutsu)
And ofcourse Orochimaru may have preserved Fugaku's body as a mangled pseudo-zombie torso that's hooked to a bunch of tubes Jenova-style.
That said, Fugaku wouldn't give kind the kind of shock value Kishimoto likely wants to go for. He'd probably go for like, a Zetsu clone with Hashirama's will inside of it ala Black Zetsu, or... I dunno.
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