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Yes, Hinata is thinking about Naruto's big, strong
hand and holding it tightly
No way, Sakura will come in.... soon! A-and slap Hinata off him!
Those two are dull, blonexblonde (NarutoxIno) ftw!
We all know the only one Naruto cares to be paired with is Sasuke
Naruto will die, pairingless.
Why? We all know Naruto will get all the bitches in the end
Funny to hear Tobi talking about the loss of parents and mentors. Isn't he the one who helped wipe out his clan, and was responsible for the death of his own mentor? Yeah, Naruto is way ahead of you dude.
I'm happy about this chapter, but I'm still sorta afraid. My preffered Ships always get sunk no matter how safe they seem. I mean Spidey/MJ got messed up for crying out loud!
I really wasn't expecting my hand holding Kumbaya-no-Jutsu joke from a few weeks back to actually take place...wtf Kishi.
Umm... Madara died shortly after aquiring his Rinnegan. There was no such "time to master his abilities" so to think that his mastery of it is on a level beyond what Sasuke could have, after only recently aquiring it would be stretching things IMO. It would literally take one fight on his way to the battlefield for Sasuke to learn what his Rinnegan was capable of, if that. Especially since just like the MS/EMS abilities, they are all internally aquired without the need to innovate or practice. I wouldn't be at all surprised if at the initial activation of the Rinnegan Sasuke simply "understands" how it works thanks to having so much experience with the MS.Originally Posted by Hakuteiken
Yeah, let's not do that. Only Naruto can gain a powerup and immediately master it within the 15 minutes of it previously being aquired, right?Quote:
If Rinnegan didn't require any mastery to perform the said techniques, why didn't Nagato use Rinne Tensei on Yahiko? My sole explanation to this question is he didn't know how to use it at that point. Remember, Obito approached Nagato before Yahiko's death and talked about the nature of his eyes. It was quite possible that Rinne Tensei was mastered by Madara before his death, and then somehow passed on to Nagato through Obito.
In my opinion, any person who wants a good plot will not want Sasuke in the current war because it does not make any sense. Sasuke left Tobi and raged on Obito. Madara was already dead, and nothing said that Madara asked Obito to kill the Uchiha. In fact, Madara was betrayed by his clan, and left alone powerless. So my opinion is that Madara was a victim of the Uchiha and got hurt so badly that he never got peace until he became crippled. From Obito's behavior, I am almost certain that he acted on his own in the Uchiha massacre, and therefore Sasuke has nothing against Madara.
For those who have been reading Naruto carefully, they should notice Naruto is the Natural enemy of Madara uchiha. Without comparing their power, I will focus on the reasons. Obito was entrusted with the moon eye plan by Madara. Minato noticed that whoever was behind Obito's idea would become a threat to the world. Minata sealed Kyuubi inside Naruto to stop the threat. This means that from the manga perspective, Obito+Madara vs Naruto +SA was a destined fight. It should be also noted that without Juubi, Obito would be already dead or incapacitated. Given Sasuke's confusion and the fact that he is against Naruto, I claim that Sasuke has no role to play in this war or against Madara. Besides, I don't see any power up of Sasuke that can compete with current Madara.
i got to the point that i wish madara will kill obito and naruto....tobi was a great character even we though he could be rikudo sennin or one of his sons but after the mask came off, it was destroy by obito...anyway at least we got madara and sasuke still while oro is back to the game..
Otherwise, I too sometimes wonder about Nagato's and Madara's mastery of the rinnegan. Not to mention the only thing I think we've seen Obito use was the linked field of vision with the jinchuuriki. Heh, speaking of which, I guess everyone has decided to just go ahead and ignore Obito's mokuton abilities, which he always had. I wonder how much of an errand boy Obito was, using the eyes etc. before maybe training Nagato how to use some things or linking him to the Mazou? I still think it was interesting that Nagato smirked when he summoned the Mazou vs. Danzou & Hanzou... maybe the smirk was Madara's influence.
So, it's highly unlikely that even Madara accomplished such feat.
That lunatic smile was probably because due to the taste of the feeling revenge.
Nagato used the moon as comparison. He said his chibaku tensei paled in comparison to Rikudou Sennin's, which is currently the moon. Nagato was unable to create a huge Chibaku Tensei, though that could be attributed to him not being a jinchuuriki and being hella low on chakra due to the invasion, super Shinra Tensei, and fighting Naruto. Nagato is Gagato.
Madara currently could do a huge-scale chibaku tensei since he's both an Edo Tensei and has Hashirama's cells.
While I'm annoyed at Naruto getting affected by Tobi's hanabbel lecture, I can understand how it happened. Obito was a lot like Naruto. He just says and does the kind of things that would have broken him. The big difference is that Tobi is trash who threw away, betrayed, and murdered or seeks to murder his former friends. Naruto had decided he will never do that, no matter how far Sasuke falls.
Course now Tobi is going to be targeting Hinata if he really wants to cause Naruto to despair.
I wonder whether hiashi is jealous of his daughter or if he will be proud of her. I mean,becoming the father in law of the incoming Kage must be a honour
It's really time for sasuke to make his appearing, I'm getting bored of obito and naruto...
You'll find that TONS of people (even those who hate Sasuke) want to see him. Whether to see Naruto beat him up, to see what new abilities he aquired, to see how he reacts to meeting Uchiha Madara, to see how Naruto successfully "fixes" him, or just because it adds a new avenue to the current events in the manga. Infact, I don't think there's a single poster here that believes Sasuke simply disappearing serves the manga in any way, shape, or form. The majority of posters here despise Obito, so no one wants to see the manga end with him as Naruto's greatest opponent. Tons of people love Madara, but want something different from "Madara returns for vengeance and is defeated by another Senju-affiliated ninja because that's how it's supposed to be".Originally Posted by so6pww
Personally: Sasuke is my favorite character in the manga, and everything happening currently is par for the course til we actually get back to him.
The entire war is about Naruto changing the ninja world with love and determination. Sasuke is the only person he hasn't successfully changed yet. That means that symbolically, HE is the true test of his will. Not Obito, not Madara. How you could think that ignoring the most important aspect of Naruto's driving force ISN'T incredibly important to the plot... I dunno. On top of that, Sasuke doesn't need any personal vendetta to stop Madara or Obito. Though he does have one: Sasuke challenging Obito and Madara both would allow him to finally protect Konoha aswell as redeem the Uchiha clan the way Itachi always wanted him to. You're essentially asking Kishimoto to retcon all of that.Quote:
All it would take is a Rinnegan for Sasuke to instantly become more powerful of an ally than a large percentage of all of the ninja on the battlefield. And Sasuke is against Naruto because he's standing in the way of his vengeance (which he is no longer doting on). Madara however (and/or Obito) were influential in the death of tons of Uchiha making them Sasuke's enemies aswell.Quote:
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Manga says "shortly before his death". Meaning he died almost immediately after. I think he summoned Mazou and set up his life support system, THEN he went and put the eyes inside of Nagato before meeting Obito and dying. Regardless, there wasn't much time to for a crash course in Rinnegan mastery.Originally Posted by Hakuteiken
Maybe you're right about that one particular jutsu. Still, there is atleast some instantly aquired expertise. Look at what Nagato did to that random fodder ninja when he first awakened the eye.Quote:
That last paragraph you wrote pretty much shows that you are forgetting a few things that have happened in this manga, to no say a total lack of knowledge of story so far. Let's puts things in the right perspective:
1. Obito's abilities is what motivated Minato to seal the Kyuubi inside of his Son. He knew that to defeat someone with Obito's skilll set a special power would be needed.
2. Obito would not be dead or incapacitated without the Juubi, actually two shinobi were (Kakashi and Naruto) and one of them needed to have the same ability as him (Kamui), in other to even hit the guy. And remember that Kakashi was pretty much done without Kyuubi's help http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c609/10.html
3. He have not used Rinnengan Techniques, except for Gedou Mazou summoning.
In conclusion Obito should not be understimaded, my prediction is that Sasuke, will join Madara and Obito, redemption is not possible for him.