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Yes, Hinata is thinking about Naruto's big, strong
hand and holding it tightly
No way, Sakura will come in.... soon! A-and slap Hinata off him!
Those two are dull, blonexblonde (NarutoxIno) ftw!
We all know the only one Naruto cares to be paired with is Sasuke
Naruto will die, pairingless.
Why? We all know Naruto will get all the bitches in the end
There are blacks in Naruto, but everything Danzou did benefited the village in some way. Killing the Uchiha prevented the war from breaking out, spy organizations helped protect Konoha doing dirty and horrible deeds that the hokage wouldn't have approved of, but what experiment are you talking about?
I'm not sure if they'd stop him. Hiruzen likely knew what Danzou was doing or could be up to, but he realized that Danzou was doing it for the village. I'm sure Hiruzen could have stopped Danzou somehow, especially when Danzou was working in the shadows.
Danzou colluded, or at least condoned, Orochimaru's human experiments. He is clearly involved in it whether its directly or indirectly. As a high ranking official, he has to take responsibility for that as well. Hiruzen should have stopped him, but he is a pansy and almost everybody walked all over him. Kakashi has already tried to undermine his schemes. Shikaku had also gone against Danzou taking the Hokage role after Tsunada went down. They don't trust him and they don't even know half of the shitty things he did.
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orochimaru is more villainous than Danzou...
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Back at Part I, a villain was whoever opposed Konoha. Orochimaru was a villain, and Danzo was an anti-hero.
Now, a villain has to be someone against the Shinobi alliance at this point. Consider this. If Danzo was alive now, would he fight against the Alliance or would he join them until he dies on the battlefield? I can easily call it the latter. Oonoki changed during the war, coming to understand his flawed perceptions, and Danzo is no different than him.
I hope kishi is about to move the scene towards either the kages or sasuke. tsunade should have already healed the others,and katsuyu should have healed tsunade,those strong guys have to join the fight!
You raping women is different from Danzou killing enemies of Konoha and protecting it. It's likely if he didn't do those things, Konoha would have been worse off.
Hitler was evil because apparently, he scapegoated the Jewish for power and to get people on his side. The Jewish didn't hurt the Germans or Germany in any way. Danzou can't really be evil because he's not scapegoating anyone, other than Uchiha. He's genuinely taking out threats, like how he planned to kill Sasuke by sending Sai on a mission. I don't think it's any different from what the FBI does, or what most government agencies in any country do. There is no morale for Root, it's why they undergo the training to get rid of emotion.
And in some cases, ends justify the means. I'm not saying I like Danzou, I think he's a dipshit for what he's done, but his motivation wasn't just for himself.
I'm not disagreeing with that, but Danzou apparently did it for Konoha's sake. Hiruzen should have, but he most likely chose not to because he couldn't make decisions that could make people lose their faith. I guess Danzou was the shadow for Hiruzen, making decisions Hiruzen knew he should have, but couldn't.Quote:
You also forgot Jiraiya warning Tsunade about Danzou, and how the other kage suspected Danzou's hand in Hiruzen's death, the attack on Konoha, and collaborating with Orochimaru on that attack. I can also name other things that Danzou has done that was pretty evil, which is why I think although he's grey, he is so close to crossing to the black.
Applying real world historical and political standards to a manga with such a simplistic (accepting others for they are can end all conflict. bullshit.) world view as Naruto is kind of a fail anyway. Naruto is really no more than an analogy about how to fit in, make friends, and overcome bullying in middle and high school. Ksihi tried to mix in politics and morals in a lame attempt to emulate FMA. He must not have realized that FMA really was about science, religion, and politics, while Naruto is, and remains, a coming of age story (most Jump manga are). FMA was never bogged down by concepts like the "will of fire" and "power of hate", which make a lot of sense if growing up is the main theme, but are incredibly simple minded when discussing adult life. Pain makes a lot more sense as a high school bully than he does as leader of a terrorist organization. Danzou makes more sense as a domineering vice-principal than he does as majordomo of a major nation.
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sasuke the 10 tails host, he always need to put naruto as the underdog.
but if they take out all the beast from the 10 tails, will the 10 tails be strong as he is now. i mean hes nature monster, as long there is element around him. hes the boss, but if obito fight with the 10 tail host in hes D.D will the 10 tails be usless since there is no nature there.
in the end, it does not matter if sasuke is the host of the 10 tails cause naruto is going to win, i hate stuff like that.
i mean onepiece is like that. and i dont get mad. it that clone plus resengan make me sick. every smart ninja or strong ninja need to get beat by those 2 move.
i really dont like naruto at all. some people like naruto, but come on, a orange guy who only use 2 move and they can break all hes bone and he still stand up. is that real. or someone close all shes chackra point to the point were you cant even move a finger. and he manage to move hes hand to make a chackra seal.
if minato was the main character. i know he was almost the same. resengan plus SPT, but he knew alot of sealing jutsu and he would use it, and in the meddle of the fight he come up with the counter, but he would let us know what he was going to do before he do......but naruto...clone attack with resengan. do it again, again....oohhh some how i got him...now talk no jutsu.
luffy is stupid, but he come up with alot of different move. to show us that hes really trying to win by giving a really good fight.
zehahahahaha when i see naruto fighting, it like im watching wwe john cena,
Guys 10 day away from now. i dont know what to do to keep me busy while waiting.
even if there is a juubi host, it won't be for so long, naruto promises to free son goku and the rest of the biuujus but i don't see sasuke becaming the juubi host, i will believe more obtaining the rinnegan or evolve version of his EMS, an unique version..
Hi guys long time no see.
I see we are still discussing Danzou, the Uchiha, Saru etc etc it's a interesting topic indeed xD.
Although I don't agree with your post, the part about Sasuke being the jinchuuriki of the 10 Tails made me think about a theory, which I don't know how original it is, but I never read anything like this before.
We all know that when Obito lost Nagato after the Invasion of Konoha, he told Zetsu that he planned to make Sasuke link with the Gedo Mazou. At the time it was unclear what that meant, but now we know what it means: To link with the Mazou one needs the Rinnegan: the Sage's Kekkei Genkai. And now we also know how to get the Rinnegan: Uchiha dna (in it's "ultimate" form ie EMS) + Hashirama's dna (and control over it). Only then can one awake the Rinnegan, as we saw with Madara.
Sasuke as of now acheived the 1st condition, the EMS. As for the 2nd Obito, planning to make Sasuke replace Nagato might very well, during the surgery to transplant Itachi's eyes, have implanted Hashirama's dna in Sasuke. (Which would also allow for a faster recovery most likely).
Now, even if Sasuke acheived control over Hashirama's dna and gets the Rinnegan he would need his own motivation to want to become the 10 Tails jinchuuriki. And I think he has it.
The scroll Suigetsu found in Orochimaru's hideout imo is Oro's research on the Rinnegan. That's why Suigetsu said they could take control over the war: Rinnegan---> controll over the Mazou----> control over the Bijuu. And that's why imo Sasuke got Orochimaru back, because he is the one who made the research and the one who can help him find and question the "man who knows everything" ie Uchiha Madara.
As for Sasuke's motivation to get the Rinnegan and become the 10 Tails jin. Which means imo Sasuke getting interested in the Eye of the Moon Plan. His motivation is simple actually.
1st: The Rinnegan and the 10 Tails can give him the power to actually "destroy" Konoha, which by now means: Kill all of konoha's people. Now that Konoha is allied with the rest of the shinobi world, Sasuke needs something that can go against the Alliance.
2nd: Through the Eye of the Moon Plan he can create a world where the Uchiha clan never died, where Itachi is still alive, where he was never left alone. As Itachi said "reality is what one perceives to be real" something like that xD. therefore Sasuke would be able to Revive his clan. That would be his reality.
This being truth, we have now 3 people interested in the Eye of the Moon Plan: Madara, Obito and Sasuke (with Orochimaru making a power grab when given the opportunity in a snake like form hehe). And 3 people who don't trust each other. All of them will want to be the Jinchuuriki and perform the Mugen Tsukuyomi themselves. Madara is the weakest side (unless he comes out with some crazy ass jutsu again) because he is an Edo Tensei and is thefore dependent on Obito or Sasuke. Obito has already made clear that he doesn't plan to let control slip from his hands. Sasuke will be the same, he will trust no one.
And as enmymiguel said, Naruto needs to be somehow the underdog. Right now imo Naruto is stronger than Sasuke. He has a lot of experience fighting against the Sharingan, and even the MS. His Bijuu Mode is superior to Sasuke's Susanoo, Tsukuyomi will not work on Naruto, and Naruto is fast enough to avoid Amaterasu in the same fashion as the Raikage. So Sasuke definetly needs a power up. I don't say he will become the 10Tails Jin, which I think unlikely, but the Rinnegan and some Mokuton + boost in stamina would help a lot.
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