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    Re: Bleach 522 Discussion / 523 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by EMS View Post
    where it was said that he is 50% quincy, i know there is a posibility that his mom was a quincy but is this confirmed or you just giving a theory oryou just assuming ?..
    He used Blut Vene...? Juha commented on him being part Quincy and about "memories" in his reiatsu? Do you need further proofs? Ichigo WILL NOT be farting arrows as Quincy. He is still FB/Shinigami/Hollow. He won't suddenly use powers he has never used before and change good old sword to bow.

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    Re: Bleach 522 Discussion / 523 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Duniak View Post
    He used Blut Vene...? Juha commented on him being part Quincy and about "memories" in his reiatsu? Do you need further proofs? Ichigo WILL NOT be farting arrows as Quincy. He is still FB/Shinigami/Hollow. He won't suddenly use powers he has never used before and change good old sword to bow.
    Right. Bach said that Ichi escaped because Kirge's jail can't hold quincies, which is proof enough. BTW VR quincies like swords surprisingly much, probably because fighting a sword with a bow in close combat is suicide
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    Re: Bleach 522 Discussion / 523 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Duniak View Post

    He always could walk around in his bankai. Now that he has his sword broken, he can't go back, maybe? Like Arrancar from Ressurection. And if he went back to Shikai, wouldn't his sword dissapear? I mean, this broken sword is part of his bankai.
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    As far as I have understood, Ichigo is just stuck in bankai, because Tensa Zengetsu is broken and he can't go back into shikai until repaired.
    Probably, but it is a bit confusing to me, because I thought bankais would just disappear after being broken or if the shinigami's too exhausted. I guess Ichigo's a special case yeah.


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    IMO, not a chance. Ichigo bankai can't be stolen because he is part Quincy and Quincies' tools don't work on Quincies (Kirge's jail). Or should I say, they work only on shinigamis. Well, Ichigo is everything. Quincy, Fullbringer, Hollow and Shinigami. That's why his bankai can't be stolen, I think.
    Yes, but I was hoping Renji would gain an unstealable bankai. But if you look at Yamamoto's zan, even his bankai could be stolen, so I think Renji will probably just receive a simple power-up. I mean I don't see why Renji should be able to upgrade to something Yama never showed. They're both pure shinigami.

    I hope Ichigo will learn some new techniques, not just Getsuga Tenshou.
    Last edited by Notak; January 05, 2013 at 05:17 PM.

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    Re: Bleach 522 Discussion / 523 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Duniak View Post
    How can you possibly compress Ichigo's Bankai? xD But Renji having his Bankai more compressed, faster, and more useful will be great and I think it's where this is all going.
    well he is quincy, so now Ichigo can do what link did in zelda for Nintendo- when he goes bankai, he gets to shoot his sword at long range enemies.

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    Re: Bleach 522 Discussion / 523 Predictions

    i do hope ichigo doesn't use any power from the quincy, ichigo is proud of being substitute Soul Reaper Shinigami as he dad is Isshin and ichigo got that power more of Isshin than his mom(quincy,Masaki Kurosaki), i really believe ichigo will go beyond bankai..
    living in the darkness and now with a new light, i will raise to a new beginning...

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    Re: Bleach 522 Discussion / 523 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by EMS View Post
    i do hope ichigo doesn't use any power from the quincy, ichigo is proud of being substitute Soul Reaper Shinigami as he dad is Isshin and ichigo got that power more of Isshin than his mom(quincy,Masaki Kurosaki), i really believe ichigo will go beyond bankai..
    Well, the proud Shinigami Substitute has been using Hollow and Fullbring abilities so far. The Hollow side apppeared a long time ago. Dude was never a true Shinigami to begin with.

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    Re: Bleach 522 Discussion / 523 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Sky Render View Post
    Well, the proud Shinigami Substitute has been using Hollow and Fullbring abilities so far. The Hollow side apppeared a long time ago. Dude was never a true Shinigami to begin with.
    So to me that raises the question, if his zanpakuto is reforged. Will it even be possible to reforge it or will reforging it create something all together different?

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    Re: Bleach 522 Discussion / 523 Predictions

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    So to me that raises the question, if his zanpakuto is reforged. Will it even be possible to reforge it or will reforging it create something all together different?
    http://www.mangareader.net/bleach/518/12

    The monk interprets it to be similar to the original Zanpakuto.

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    Re: Bleach 522 Discussion / 523 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Hakuteiken View Post
    http://www.mangareader.net/bleach/518/12

    The monk interprets it to be similar to the original Zanpakuto.
    Zangetsu comeback? *.* I freakin' hope. Just as I hope there will be some problems because Ichigo is not you run of the mill Shinigami.

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    Re: Bleach 522 Discussion / 523 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Duniak View Post
    Zangetsu comeback? *.* I freakin' hope. Just as I hope there will be some problems because Ichigo is not you run of the mill Shinigami.
    I hope to see Tensa Zangetsu's spirit, but I'd settle for the old man, too.
    At any rate, it's most likely that Zangetsu will make an appearance sooner, rather than later.

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    Re: Bleach 522 Discussion / 523 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Hakuteiken View Post
    I hope to see Tensa Zangetsu's spirit, but I'd settle for the old man, too.
    At any rate, it's most likely that Zangetsu will make an appearance sooner, rather than later.
    Seeing Zangetsu back sure but id hope to see more then 1 zanpakuto from him. Just like we see now with this guy he has a entire cheerleader squad. We have seen dual wield before. With 2 captains, this could very well be the early stage of having more then 1 zanpakuto.

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    Re: Bleach 522 Discussion / 523 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by ca12nag3 View Post
    Seeing Zangetsu back sure but id hope to see more then 1 zanpakuto from him. Just like we see now with this guy he has a entire cheerleader squad. We have seen dual wield before. With 2 captains, this could very well be the early stage of having more then 1 zanpakuto.
    Oh, dual Zanpakuto could be a nice development, but it's a bit tough to think it's a natural development, since Captain-Commander didn't have it.
    Still, it could be because of a certain aspect of character or whatever we may speculate it to be.

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    Re: Bleach 522 Discussion / 523 Predictions

    Nope, Ichigo swinging his sword like a little pro suits him better. I don't know if he practiced Kendo, but http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-chapter-1-page-54.html

    this swing is what I always remember.. I can't imagine him swinging two swords. And why would he need 2 swords? 2 simultaneous Getsugas? xD

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    Re: Bleach 522 Discussion / 523 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Duniak View Post
    Nope, Ichigo swinging his sword like a little pro suits him better. I don't know if he practiced Kendo, but http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-chapter-1-page-54.html

    this swing is what I always remember.. I can't imagine him swinging two swords. And why would he need 2 swords? 2 simultaneous Getsugas? xD

    I didnt say 2 swords is what ichigo would use simultaneously. Just that its perhaps a part of development. Or that they are not aware of it that they actually have 2 zanpakutos rather then dualwield. Shunsui has 2 swords each is different, as he explained himself they move at different speed. This itself suggests to me that they are actually both totally different. Also he can at will just use 1 of them and leave the other away. Like he did vs Stark.
    So he has 2 not 1. as contrary to that he has 1 that transforms in 2. At least this is my theory behind the dual-wielders. Its even possible that they hide this fact from other shinigami. And that thats part of the reason why Ukitake told him not to release his bankai. It might give away that he has 2 zanpakuto instead of just 1 that transforms in 2.

    But thats my 2 cents. And if you still dont understand what i mean ask again ^^

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    Re: Bleach 522 Discussion / 523 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by ca12nag3 View Post
    Shunsui has 2 swords each is different
    One release command, similar looks

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    as he explained himself they move at different speed.
    I would be surprised if they wouldn't move at different speed... One is katana, second is wakizashi. Wakizashi is smaller, faster, and usually used to confuse opponents rather than fatally wound them. That's what Katana is for.


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    This itself suggests to me that they are actually both totally different. Also he can at will just use 1 of them and leave the other away. Like he did vs Stark.
    Yup, he used UNRELEASED Katana and didn't want to use wakizashi. He was also switching hands. Of course twin-sword-style swordsman would be able to use one sword. Using one sword is usually easier than two. Still, the timing in his attacks were different,so they won't clash while attacking.


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    So he has 2 not 1. as contrary to that he has 1 that transforms in 2.
    ... nope? He has 2 swords, that transform into 2...

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    At least this is my theory behind the dual-wielders. Its even possible that they hide this fact from other shinigami. And that thats part of the reason why Ukitake told him not to release his bankai. It might give away that he has 2 zanpakuto instead of just 1 that transforms in 2.

    But thats my 2 cents. And if you still dont understand what i mean ask again ^^
    I think it was clear all along, that Shunsui's swords are both responsible for other games. Using his Bankai would be troublesome considering the fact, that he is ability-type. Who knows how hax his bankai actually is.

    And having 2 Zanpakutos with identical looks wouldn't make sense.

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