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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
And I agree that strategy is something you don't usually think up in the midst of battle, but that's hard when you don't really know anything about the opponent except it's a quincy and has stolen your bankai.
Anyway, from the state Byakuya's in now, a huge powerup would be even regaining consciousness
And regarding the thread title: is the other option Byakuya becoming a beauty?
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Schabrak and Duniak: this is starting to be fun (I mean fun for me)
2. Renji was humiliated by Byakuya, but then learned to view him as a mentor and has improved greatly. He's with Ichigo now and will probably do something spectacular before the manga ends.
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He tried without Vollstandig & got kicked, he tried with vollstandig & took Shunsui eyes out.
Beacuse common sense doesn't apply anymore does it? Byakuya still has much to learn. He hasn't reached his limit.
Hinamori can also reach the shinigami limit (she may or she may not, it's up to her) but that would probably take much longer than it took Aizen or maybe even Yamamoto.
Ichigo is a different chatacter (the main character) not bound to the limits of a shinigami so a failed point you made...again.
Last edited by Kay3795; January 02, 2013 at 03:46 PM.
Please keep it on the related topic everyone.
You could discuss that via PM if you really wish to.
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There shouldn't be, otherwise, there will be no stopping to this invasion with the second wave.
Show me where he "speedblitzed" him. http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-cha...1-page-12.html
He missed, Shunsui dodged, almost killed him. Shunsui doesn't even look serious and he himself stated, that he tried to act cool, not getting serious, but SR got him right back then. And when he was getting serious...
It doesn't look like he was caught for the second time. And Quincy is bleeding from his stomach. Damn, that's a lot of blood. And judging by his age, he has to be an experienced Quincy.
Much to learn? Hasn't reached his limit? You just keep saying it over and over again. Prove me he can or just stop writing that garbage.Quote:
He already showed few forms of his bankai, multiple variations of it, used Yoruichi's techniques. More blades? Faster control? How can his bankai develop?
It doesn't matter how long it would take her. That's not relevant. You have no proof, that Hinamori can't have bigger potential or can't get stronger than Byakuya. If you have, show me, or shut it. No matter how hard Byakuya would train he still has a limit, that he is bound to. Hinamori might have higher limit and get stronger than him.Quote:
I love when some idiot tries to act cool and wants to show how superior he is.Quote:
I wrote, that he mastered his Hollow side as well. Dangai level was completely mastering his Zanpakuto and Hollow. It doesn't matter how high that limit was, he reached it. Despite problems with Hollow he reached it in few months. If you can't understand such a simple sentence then you should go back to school, really.
Well, if byakuya is to face nodt again without his own bankai then the situation is that he will definitely need some sort of improvement. Overall it is simply not possible for him to oppose as nodt without a bankai, he would need to go to that fight thoroughly prepared. I don't think he will have a chance to actually kill nodt without bankai so he would at least need an strategy to get his bankai back. In all odds it is very likely that mayuri and urahara will soon figure out how the badges work and how to get bankai back. Byakuya is almost certainly going to be stronger after the current events considering the spring treatment seems to take healing to another level and he is also certainly going to get a taste of kirio's food. I don't think the boost will be gargantuan or anything of the sort but it should at least be strong enough so that an actual strategy is plausible when he has a rematch with nodt. As far as mental issues I don't think byakuya is the sort to get down. His pride was basically destroyed, the byakuya we know is likely to want to redeem himself, not hide himself in shame.
byakuya seems to go throug cycles, he is the most badass captain in the SS arc, only to be defeated by a noob who just unlocked his bankai
albeit a very strong noob
then he has his hands full with the espada that rukia killed, (like the #8 espada or whatever) but then helps kenpachi defeat the #0 espada
then he gets completely owned by this sternridder
so get ready for him to come back and beat someone much stronger
Byakuya fought zomari, the one who defeated rukia was arroniero. Zomari was about to finish of rukia but was stopped by byakuya. Byakuya hardly had his hands full with zomari though, zomari barely lasted moments in the face of byakuya's bankai and his special ability was dealt with by a lonely kido. As far as nodt goes it is kinda unfair to say he was owned. He definitely was however that is the only possible scenario left to a captain without his bankai when fighting a fellow captain level fighter with bankai or volstandig.
Also, I doubt ichigo is ginger....
Judgng by Renji's current performance vs Mask, yes, Byakuya will be a monster with a capital M! No two ways about it!
http://www.mangapanda.com/94-760-11/...apter-306.htmlOriginally Posted by Hakuteiken
I thought the hilt had to be maintained in order to repair a zanpakuto. Byakuya lost his. It was rendered dust.
If Byakuya's shikai is indeed gone completely then that would justify the potential power boost he seems to have in store.
If Renji advanced from being severely hurt from one kick to tanking tons of even stronger attacks without even trying, then Byakuya should be way above senior captains by now. Somewhere close to Yamamoto. Assuming progression was as great as Renji's.
That kind of growth wouldn't make sense for only a side character, unless there were stronger opponents in hiding... but if he lost his zanpakuto completely then the power boost would be legit, since he'd have to rely on his Shihouin techniques and kidou to put up a fight.
And I'd be cool with that. Just because Byakuya's my favorite character doesn't mean he has to be the same Byakuya from the beginning of the series. His moveset can be shaken up as long as the personality and skill remains. He could even fight with a second-hand zanpakuto if necessary. Tousen did. Or a plain old sword picked up in the RP. Just saying that there's a possibility that his zanpakuto is gone completely based on what Mayuri said. I mean, Mayuri's sword wasn't in shikai when that happened, but neither was Byakuya's. It had returned to it's sealed state, but was missing the blade because it was broken.