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Translations: Bleach 600 by BadKarma
I was gonna use this example, but then I remembered Ao using an eyepatch to mask his Byakugan and being effortlessy being able to see through it despite his eye being coveredQuote:
In size probably not, but Kaiten is a jutsu that naturally repels chakra, and if Neji can repel Kyuubi's chakra ( a no-tailed one, but still ) I don't doubt someone with equal skills can repel a B or even a A rank ninjutsu that doesn't have specifically piercing powers.Quote:
I was comparing the two heads, theorically the strongest ones in their clan.Quote:
Fugaku's best quality seemed his level-headness, surely not his strenght
The difference imo is that the Uchiha passed from BAMF level ( at the time of Hashirama and Tobirama ) to upper fodderish level at the Sandaime time, while Hyuuga probably mantained the same upper fodderish level since day oneQuote:
And we don't know if only Uchihas could be perceived as a threat should they rebel, if Hyuugas showed signs of it I'm sure they would be feared as much, considering they deluded themselves into thinking they were the strongest in Konoha, and Neji was considered a genius just as Sasuke
I was talking about this, what you linked is this.Quote:
I'm using a basic main house Hyuuga ( thus knowing Kaiten and the 64 thingy, the non-branded ones basically ) just like I'm using a basic Sharingan Uchiha:
knowing like we knew that the Sharingan was pretty rare, a non-Uchiha sharingan would get owned by a branch-member Hyuuga that would still have access to normal Juuken and Juuken jutsus, as such we're comparing the best Hyuugas and Uchihas have to offer outside outstanding talented ones.
In terms of predicting abilities, all Obito managed was a combination with Kakashi, hardly something impressive imo.Quote:
The best thing his Sharingan gave him was to see through that guy invisibility.
As for the issue, even with the Sharingan no Uchiha got untouched when the ability between the fighters were similar, the only one being untouched at all was Itachi against the Jounins, but the difference was gigantic
At least until the Gaikage joined the fray
The Hyuuga are the strongest because overall they have better fighters. The Uchiha have a handful of really powerful ninja but the average Uchiha doesn't have a Sharingan only a select few do. So as a clan they are much inferior to the Hyuuga.
What's this bull about Senju DNA being needed for Izagini?
I'd like to clarify that "Senju" DNA has never been suggested to be worth jackcrap. HASHIRAMA DNA is what everyone is raving about. And Hashirama and his unique Mokuton bloodline limit probably wasn't even born yet when Izagini was invented. And if he was, all those countless Izagini spammers certainly didn't all have access to his cells.
If you take away murdering your best friends and family members, meaning you only have 3-tomoe Sharingan at best, then Byakugan may give the Sharingan a run for its money. But once at least MS is actviated you better run for your life, there is probably not a single Hyuga clan member than can even come close to the strength of Sasuke, Itachi, Tobi and Madara. Sure I'm not taking any strategic and logic arguments into account, but why would you at this point? The evidence for this is the way Kishi had to power up Naruto just to be able to keep up with those four guys mentioned above. It's f***ing ridiculous.
Byakygan has better eyesight but this doesn't mean is better than Sharingan .... Sharingan can predict the blows but byakugan can't , so simply uchiha is a step forward than hyuga in fight ...
Hiashi is the only hyuga who has strongest hyuga jutsu and he is the leader of clan .... so if you want compare him and his daughter ( the next leader of clan ) and the genius of hyuga to uchiha , you have to compare them with Sasuke , ITachi , Shisui , and Fukagu .... not with random Uchiha ....
Uchiha has his own ninjustu and kinjutsu and they are not limited to only taijutsu ...
anyway , we still didn't know much about Uchiha and their own unique jutsu .... we only see sasuke , Itachi , Madara , Tobi .... Madara using Rinnegan , Itachi never go to a fight with his full power , Tobi didn't want to show his identity , and Sasuke hasn't someone to even teach him how to using his Sharingan and cast genjtusu ( Itachi and Tobi had their master and even Madara had his own master in his era ) ...
and Uchiha has some unique jutsu with their fans .... Madara's Uchiha's genshi showing this jutsu is belong to Uchiha not to only him ....
about rarity of Sharingan in uchiha .... for sure if they go in war , more uchiha could awaken their sharingan in danger of fights .... juts like Obito , Sasuke ...
Last edited by shafagh; January 14, 2013 at 03:22 AM.
As far as izanagi goes, isn't the reason the user goes blind after using the technique because they do not have senju powers? I guess obito did have his zetsu half when he used his izanagi however perhaps the issue was that he was not yet a true rikudo. As far as we know the original rikudo used izanagi to his liking and that is because he truly possessed uchiha and senju powers to begin with. The uhciha version of the power costs them their eyesight.
I don't see how the sharingan predictably would work on an opponent who can see all around them. Just cause the sharingan can predict a punch doesn't mean it's an advantage against a hyuga with byakugan. It's not a disadvantage the fight would be a stale mate even against a hyuga who can't use jyuken.
We thought itachi was the strongest uchiha do to solo-ING his clan. But now we know and have seen madara in action rennigan excluded. We don't know much about the hyuga thanks to KISHI to say hiashi is the strongest now although him pushing the ten tails hand tail is a good case in his favor. I don't know if the ten tails hand tail couldn't tank one hyuga's tech I don't see sasuke or itachi sasunoo have a better chance. Theirs amateretsu that'll probably work but then again a hyuga can utilize chakra all over thiers bodies so they'll probably push off. These are possibilities until we them vs one another the same argument could be made in the uchiha favor.
I always assume if itachi uses his tsukiyomi in battle or any strong genjustu than he's going all out since genjutsu for itachi is rasengan for naruto. Madara pulling jutsu and doujutsu out of left field against opponents he consider fodder in my opinion that's going all out hell sasuke goes all out in every fight that boy don't hold back for no one. You say unique I say potential potential to awaken unique jutsu sasuke's enton itachi time control tsukiyomi shushui mind control genjutu obito warp jutsu.
Madara so far is the only uchiha with a number 8 fan and the way he uses it is probably tied to HIS Chakra alone obito didn't once use it like madara has.
I don't know about that going into battle awakens the sharingan sasuke awoke his twice out fear. Thiers not sayian until they get MS itachi awoken his at an early age not because of battle to me its seem like 10% anger 20% battle 70% fear of dieing .
In the end hyuga over uchiha all day lol
Last edited by Black God; January 14, 2013 at 12:31 PM.
or is the translation wrong? The jutsu you mention is in the wikia however I find the whole thing a tad strange. Or perhaps kishi retconned this?