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Thread: Gin vs Shunsui

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    Re: Gin vs Shunsui

    Well, but what exactly would kyoraku do if he does figure out gin's bankai? What good is that knowledge? The bankai has insane range, speed and a one hit sure kill. Realistically speaking the use we saw giving his bankai during the first moments of his fight with ichigo is not at all what that is about. How exactly would shunsui deal with gin's bunto attacks with shikai alone? I don't think he could in the long run. All gin has to do here is keep pointing his sword towards shunsui. There is also the consideration that gin did not actually want to fight ichigo as far as we know, that won't be the case here.

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    Re: Gin vs Shunsui

    Well, knowing it would at least make him sure of one thing: He has to dodge. He cannot expect to get hits and manage to survive.
    I do agree, however, that Ichigo fight isn't something to go by. Gin was one of the trickiest opponents to fight against in the entire series, so, when he had zero killing intent whilst fighting Ichigo, that meant little.

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    Re: Gin vs Shunsui

    Quote Originally Posted by Hakuteiken View Post
    Well, the thing about Gin's Bankai is, without knowledge, it's not something you can counter, unless you have unlimited regeneration Aizen had thanks to Hogyoku.
    Kyouraku can catch Gin off guard and hit him the way he hit Starkk to get the upper hand, but if Gin does the same, it's all over for certain, which means, Kyouraku is at a natural disadvantage against Gin's Bankai, since he has no chance to figure it out without getting killed. It's true that we don't know of his Bankai yet, and it could be something even more lethal than his Shikai. Regardless, that disadvantage won't disappear.
    So this match comes down to which gets used first - Gin's Bankai or Shunsui's more powerful Shikai abilities?

    Both have the potential to gain a massive advantage with their powers, but I'm going to give it to Shunsui then. Just because if they spar with their Shikai for a bit Shunsui will be at the advantage. Neither are the sort of person to go all out straight away, they tend to fool around a bit since they know how powerful they are.

    Still, be a very interesting battle nonetheless...

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    Re: Gin vs Shunsui

    Quote Originally Posted by Kazu-Sama View Post
    So this match comes down to which gets used first - Gin's Bankai or Shunsui's more powerful Shikai abilities?

    Both have the potential to gain a massive advantage with their powers, but I'm going to give it to Shunsui then. Just because if they spar with their Shikai for a bit Shunsui will be at the advantage. Neither are the sort of person to go all out straight away, they tend to fool around a bit since they know how powerful they are.

    Still, be a very interesting battle nonetheless...
    Explain to me how Shunsui's shikai is more powerful than Gin's one hit kill bankai?

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    Re: Gin vs Shunsui

    He is not actually saying shunsui's shikai abilities are more powerful than gin's bankai. He is referring to the set of games shunsui has that would stand out from the rest rather than actually comparing a bankai to a shikai.

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    Re: Gin vs Shunsui

    Shunsui could dodge instantaneous cero from Starrk. Dodging Gin's sword wouldn't be an issue. Shunsui's shikai is stronger than Gin's. If Gin goes into the fight and they start sealed and then release shikai, Gin will lose. Most anyone in the Gotei would lose to Shunsui if he put his all into it. Remember, this is the guy that basically laughed off losing an eye in the latest invansion. IMO Gin is outclassed.

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