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every progress, individual talent, training and whatnot is nullified by having Kyuubi's chakra as aid, meaning they could've just sit on their butts all their life and then puff! Naruto appears and bestows upon them the holy Kyuubi.
What Hiashi did was the fruit of his own work, what Hinata did was the fruit of Naruto/Kyuubi's chakra positive abilities
@Uchiha_Blood, sir, KAbuto told you the reason in volume 61,the same reason oro had taught him: in the ninja world, if you have got no talent,you does not exist, therefore you have to steal others' abilities. that's also what madara did (by stealing izuna's eyes and hashirama's cells), so they haven't got any chance unless they power-up themselves too. Furthermore,it's not that they have got kurama's powers now,just his energy to make their own techniques stronger
Cast them aside or people will naturally complain how lame it was as a development.
Apparently, Kishimoto chose the latter. How Kishimoto like it has been, eh?
Lesson (to really give you my point):
As much as you might be hurt when I seem to correct you, you should know that I find annoying when someone gives a blatantly childish mistaken argument to bash someone effort. Moreover, you should understand that I don't expect any of this answer to my post, and therefore it doesn't matter to me whether they read or ignore my posts. I actually feel better when a few people who know how to read and appreciate the series reply to my posts.
Regardless on your opinion, flaming other users can't be done here.
You can prove your point or criticize someone's post without calling it "pathetic", or generally insulting the person.
Being polite isn't a bad thing - UB
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Second, the fact that you think Shikamaru is the same as the people in his clan is more lame than Naruto distributing his chakra. This is a result of misunderstanding the entire logic in the series. Kishi has shown that almost all the Uchiha are the same with some small difference in Jutsu, then one of two are above everyone (Sasuke now and Madara before). Ino and her father has the same Jutsu with her father being more experienced. All the Aburame are shown to have the same ability, and some have special add-ons. All the Uzumaki have strong body with some hax sensing for a few of them, and exceptionally stronger body for other, but the baseline is the same. From these facts, having the Nara clan doing kage mane or the Akimichi doing Baika no Jutsu is not lame at all.
Third, you have ignore that Shikamaru is still the only genius in his clan so far apart from his father, and only this feat has distinguish him so far from the rest of his comrades. Unless someone else is shown doing the genius part of thinking strategically, your argument is lame. Moreover, if Ksihi were to show other Nara being smart as Shikamaru, there would be no reason to complain about it because all the clansmen share similar feats.
My Opinion on why people are complaining:
Before 616, you guys were predicting and complaining about Nakama power. Now, Kishi proved to you that since the beginning he had only shown that there is only one hero in the alliance, and he is the only one going to help other for most of the battle. You guys are made because instead of Naruto being powerless as you wished, he is getting more powerful. Well, you should start to accept this because in my opinion, Naruto has not even reached half his power yet. You should not forget that in the best case for Sasuke, he will die with Naruto. Otherwise, Naruto will kill him. Thus if you think Sasuke is going to become a god, this also means Naruto will become the God of gods.
1. Minato said that unless someone h=is Kyuubi's Jinchuriki, no one can stop Obito
2. An entire war is being waged because of Naruto. Not that in the beginning, though Obito's goal is to get Juubi, his underlying other goal is to end the will of fire.
3. Kushina and Minato died so that Naruto can have a chance to save the world.
Now, magically, all of you smart people think that some lame ninja should save Naruto and the world. I really have problem with your logic. In the first place, none of this alliance ninja has what it take to confront a Juubi or Madara Uchiha.
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The thing is, without being able to hurt the enemy, the methods to immobilize them will all go in vain as it has gone so far. Naruto can give them all the chakra he has and this can't be kept up for eternity.
I'd be really shocked if this plan is the end for the Juubi, anyway.
why choji is trying to hold jyuubi's head while there are better options: poke jyuubi's eye and try to crush it or finger flick madara and obito off jyuubi.
i wonder why there is not a secret file that contains the seal for releasing the ET. there should have been a special library only available to hokage.
if they knew et release formula, nara clan would force madara release his et by shadow mimic jutsu or ino would do the same thing with shintenshin
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There's no point in me continuing since I feel I actually am grasping at straws, like you said, to be honest.
Or Kishi tried (and failed) to make Naruto look cooler or better by making his appearance different when using Kyuubi chakra minus the evil will/intent.
Look at Neji and Chouji when they were chasing Sasuke. Neji had a hole in him but he still beat Kidomaru. Chouji was able to beat Jirobou using pills, but his own skills for the most part. Hell, Shikamaru was able to beat Hidan on his own and most likely lost to Temari only because he was lazy and didn't want to hurt a girl. Most of these comrades didn't need Naruto to win, even when they were tired. There's no challenge if Naruto helps them out and gives them power.
It's like seeing Minato and Itachi vs. Shikamaru. Alone, Shikamaru could be a challenge for either, but teamed up, you know he's gonna get squashed like a slow fly.
Naruto most likely did reach 3/4 of his power, and even if he didn't reach half of his power, Naruto himself thinks it's not enough based on his nervous smile when he felt the Juubi's power in Sage Mode. Even the incomplete Juubi was even with Hachibi and Kyuubi. If Naruto thought he could beat the Juubi, I doubt he'd have been nervous like that, considering Naruto's confident in himself.
is there a sign that sakura is injected with kurama's chakra too
They just want kishi to let sasuke make an appearance.
For them, sasuke's fight is the most badass/awesome fight in the manga.
Honestly, sasuke and even his fans are annoyed to naruto and naruto's awesome power.
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This war is all about ninjas. The alliance from the start already knew they're going to a fight a monster. Obito even said that there's no hope for them, but what did the kages reply? They don't want to abandon hope.
That's what the ninjas has been doing right now. Even if they know they're nothing compared to madara/juubi/obito, even though they're almost useless in this war but still they can't abandon on what they're fighting for. That's why shikaku's plan is to used the kyubi's power to strengthened their techniques. It's not a lame development, but rather a good strategy from shikaku and naruto. Using naruto/kurama's chakra to fight a freaking monster isn't just a lame development.
Naruto is the only one who can fight the juubi and madara. But he can't defeat them all alone. That's why naruto needs the alliance. And naruto needs to fuel the alliance with kurama's juice to fight a freaking monster like madara and juubi.
When naruto keep on using his rasengan variation, some fans wants naruto to have another jutsu. And now kishi decide to give naruto some awesome jutsu/skills, you called that a lame development.
You know why its wrong? Because it means that, without Naruto/Kyuubi's chakra, they are worthless.
Alliance no Jutsu my butt, this way its Naruto no Jutsu
As for Shikamaru, what he did more impressive, in this chapter, than the rest of his clan?
Not a damn thing, they all did the same thing, Chouji as well. That's why I talked about the death of differenciation, Shikamaru in this chapter wasn't the very talented fellow that we all know, but just another Nara.
If you're ok with that, no problem. Personally I'm not, expecially after Kishi made the scene of "the next generation surpassing the previous".
As for your idea of Uchiha and Uzumaki being the same abilities is very wrong, considering all Uzumaki showed ( Naruto, Nagato, Kushina and Karin ) displayed different abilities, same with Uchihas ( the only exception being brothers such as Itachi and Sasuke ).
Do I need to list the several MS jutsus this series displayed?
Lastly on your opinion, just ask around how pro-Sasuke I am
Joking aside, even for anti-Naruto fans I believe its easy to aknowledge he'll come on top, but a character being powerful =/= being a good character, Obito is the perfect example
Shi and everyone else sensed it as Naruto's chakra because Naruto was actively converting it, maybe to reduce the risks of the chakra being harmful for his friends