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Well, if you gus follow the TOG gossips, Wangnan wants his horn(s) to grow (whatever that means).
I also like Wangnan. SIU said that the new team is hiding their past from each other... So let's give him some time.
I actually like this mini-arcs. Emile was very interesting. And now we're seeing Horyang's story, Cassano and a little interaction between Koon's and Baam's team.
I don't dislike Wangnan, but I don't like him either xD. For now he is neutral, more or less. I agree that his interaction with Quatro was lame. And I also find Wangnan and by the way Prince, with his sudden change, way too childish for ToG. Miseng was alright because that was her character from the beginning, Wangnan a bit as well, even if I would prefer to see the important issues about him, obviously related to his ring, actually Karaka having the same ring only makes me more curious. But SIU will definitely get there, now it's Horyang's turn.
My problem with Prince is not only his sudden change, the thing is he was introduced as a more or less strong kid. But after he became all goody goody, he has been portrayed as an idiot.
Still overall I like S2 method of approaching characters, by not having one single main character, giving space to others. First Wangnan, then a bit Yihwa and now Horyang. Where SIU is failing for me is that S1 characters were much more interesting hehe. The problem with Wangnan is that he was given a leading role but nothing important of his character was shown, I found that disappointing.
Anyway, I'm excited to see Cassano and anxious for the next chapter, for that I have to give credit to SIU.
Last edited by Daniel; January 06, 2013 at 04:36 PM.
Prince is childish because he's a child. Even though he acted like he was no.1 high ranker in the beginning, he's still a child, and after being in a normal ("young master *squee*" is not normal) environment, and especially with Miseng, who seems to be about his age, his true personality came out (although he still pertains some of his old nature, like when he was talking about beating Urek ).
I also find the change in him too sudden, but I find the former personality weird, not the latter one.
So Prince is just being as childish as Miseng.
Really good chapter and the next few should be awesome! For the last few chapters I have been wondering if Viole will meet Koon but I have my doubts. I see the battle between everyone happening and then Viole reaching Horyang after Koon and friends have pulled out. I'm sure Horyang will resolve his issues with Kasano but I don't know if he will get killed or just captured. I have a feeling those two will talk and Kasano will esacpe somehow leaving Koon with the only option of withdrawing. I could be wrong and I would like Viole to at least see Koon but I see them leaving before Viole gets there.
I get the jokes, that's not it. I just don't find them funny. There's good comedy, there's bad comedy, and then there's comedy where jokes are being stuffed down your throat. Wangnan's probably in the bad comedy section because the jokes aren't being shoved down your throat, but they're often pointless and we'd serve better not having them. I'm not against comedy, but I don't like Wangnan.
Tell me this. Would you rather see Wangnan or some character that you like from S1? For me, having to endure Wangnan's quips and everything is taking away from the time that I could be seeing Androssi. SIU created Wangnan, but then failed with the buildup and creation of his character. Even Akraptor has more to his character than Wangnan.
I'm not saying his age/appearance or whatever make his new personality more logical or not, I can't judge characters based on appearance in ToG. The thing is he was presented as something else, and then just because his right hand man betrayed him (something he would do himself if necessary in his old self), he suddenly changed to a masculine version of Miseng with some "tough guy" childish attitude. I didn't like the change, being sudden and unexplained made it worse.
For these reasons I find Prince much more of a failure as a character than Wangnan, that although a little boring, is more consistent.
Well, I find Wangnan much more interesting than, say, Hatsu...
Wangnan is great. Everybody in the tower is full of issues: a past dragging them down, the top they will do anything to get to, the friends they make as they climb, and balancing all those things against each other. Many of the characters seem to get bogged down or trapped in their thinking making the atmosphere dark and cloying, but Wangnan lightens it all up with his simpler gordian knot style of balance.
Example from this chapter would be Baam explaining chasing after Horyang with a long exposition comparing his own lonely past, but Wangnan didn't need all those words and made an even better explanation basically saying "lets go ask Horyang why he left"
Also entertaining is the size of his ambition. It would be safer for him to try to climb the tower slower with much more training, but since his perseverance has worked for him it is hard to say that it is wrong
The "not being able to guess age" only applies to rankers or high grade regulars. 100F guardian can grant immortality, and time passes slower when you're higher in the Tower. Prince was climbing quickly, and was told to be selected as a regular quite recently. With his strength (I suppose he was quite above average, as most significant chars in Baam's team) and his dad's money, I don't think it was hard for him to pass the lower floor tests after 2F (they were said to be quite easy), so his aging shouldn't have been significantly affected.
I only assume Prince is a child by mental and physical age (sort of, since the concept of years in the Tower is different from ours) by comparison with Miseng. If I didn't know his personality when he was introduced, I wouldn't have found anything strange about it whatsoever. But it's much more reasonable to believe he's young and tries to act tough than to believe he's mature and acts like an idiot sometimes, based on his looks.
About the sexual interests: boys get to know about that quite soon .
Strictly subjective character analysis: I think Prince 'changed' after witnessing that he's not exceptionally strong as he thought and was made to believe, and that ppl he considered below him were much different. Notice Prince's obsessiveness with being the strongest, saying how he won't forgive that FUG bastard for beating him at the test, etc., and how he treated Horyang, thinking he showed all at the test. Then, he saw that Horyang was holding back by far, and even though Rapdevil was claiming to be the DOTRA, he wasn't bothered by it, and only took out the devil when it came to saving Prince's life. That kinda triggered the thoughts in him, that the strong don't show off (BTW I can confirm that those truly exceptional in some field don't seem so at all, and see their rare mistakes exceptionally well). That IMO was the reason he stopped acting so cocky, taking Horyang as an example.
The reason why i dont really like wangan is because, at the beginning of Tog bamm was introduced as the main character and we saw his struggles, we saw him progress and he grew on us. Then all of the sudden in S2 SIU decided to change it up and replace bamm and that pissed me off, cause why would you do that when you spent all that time on bamm its like a big troll tbh. Im glad he didnt go through with it though (:
The implication is: you won't find him funnier if someone explains something about him. It is not about reasons or argumentation or explanation, its about laugh. And also: you can't criticize someone because he finds him funny.
Or you find him funny or you don't. That's my answer. Hope you understand it.