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IMO if you are talking about all the clones that were later cultivated by Obito then i can agree with you, but if you are talking about Spiraly and Black zetsu etc (who were clearly shown superior then those clones) then i don't see them as one of the weakest.
He was also the least known about character for a long time.
...I shouldn't be posting so early. If anything, the way Zetsu interacts with Madara is suspect at the very least. What are their motivations for being endlessly subservient to this guy? Are they just gonna sit there and put on shades and sip lemonade while the IT happens and Madara wins?
Last edited by badluckartist; February 19, 2014 at 06:32 AM.
Zetsu is a support of Madara that can control the war because of multiple White Zetsu's.
Now that the whole Ashra / Indra reincarnation thing has been revealed, I also think that Zetsu being the ultimate evil would make sense. If we assume that Zetsu is an evil spirit that had possessed Indra from the start, and over all his incarnations, that'd explain many things. Madara was that fateful reincarnation to awaken the Rinnegan, which enabled him to extract Zetsu from his spirit, and to give it its own shape. Then, that would make Sasuke the first reincarnation not possessed by Zetsu.
Madara himself calls Zetsu "his will", which to me always deserved more of an explanation. If we think of Madara as having been possessed by Zetsu all of his life, driving him to turn against Hashirama and to keep looking for ways to become more powerful without bounds, then it makes sense that towards the end of his life, he'd call that evil spirit "his will".
Obito had also been possessed by that spirit for the longest time. He even called himself Madara, which symbolizes that he didn't have an identity or a will of his own, but was merely an extension of Madara's will (aka a puppet of Zetsu).
Both became obsessed with the Moon's Eye Plan. That should be the spirit's influence on them. Whatever justifications they made up for themselves, like eternal peace, are meaningless. It's simply that spirit's will.
Then, the obvious question would be what's that spirit at all? Kaguya? The tree? Something else? Who knows?
Also, why is Madara still evil after creating Zetsu? It might well be that Zetsu is only part of that spirit.
Kishi might still unravel the story in many ways. I now agree that this is a very plausible one.
Last edited by Sergei von Luckner; April 23, 2014 at 04:26 PM.
I think that ultimately, Zetsu follows only Kaguya because she is the spirit behind the Juubi and the Gedo Mazou, probably also the one behind Hashirama's wood powers that originated the Zetsu race in the first place.
Kaguya is likely the Bigger Bad of Naruto with Zetsu acting as her agents while Madara plays the same role as Nagato played for Obito by gathering her power back to her.
Other things we don't know that can be tied into my theory later:
- virtually anything about Rikudou's brother
- what the shinju was before becoming a 'sealed god' in the shape of a tree
- how/who stopped Infinite Tsukuyomi when Kaguya used it
- the nature of Kaguya's death
With that in mind, I'm starting to feel like Zetsu might be the nega-version of the Sage's brother, now. The otherwise-unknown hero who I described as sealing the world's despair somehow, invented sealing, maybe had something to do with sage mode, etc. I'm thinking Rikudou did the heavy lifting in that fight, but he needed his brother for the actual sealing?
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Could've at least given a reason for the edit.
Last edited by Impossibility; May 28, 2014 at 06:11 AM.
give me 5 badluck
yep zetsu was the big bad
but answer me this
if black zetsu was strong enough to take over obito and take over madara
why didnt zetsu easily capture all of the jinchurikis?