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    Re: Ginjo alive?!

    Quote Originally Posted by 0Xellos View Post
    The shihakusho stems from the shinigami power.
    Unohana didn't know about that, and misjudged Ichigo's power. Shihakusho is given after passing Academy, that's for sure. You made it sound like in Academy NOONE had Shinigami power.

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    Re: Ginjo alive?!

    I'd think the fact that ginjo was said to be specifically in rugonkai by kukaky more than implies that ginjo was very well not alive the last time we saw him. At the moment he would be a soul with strong spiritual powers.

    To me the more interesting question regarding ginjo is whether he now has shinigami powers. We know that he at some point did in fact have shinigami powers perhaps much like ichigo and we know that at some point he lost them. Perhaps by dying he could finally get back shinigami powers of his own. I don't think he would be that valuable an asset with only his standard fullbring at this point.

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    Re: Ginjo alive?!

    Quote Originally Posted by 0Xellos View Post
    The shihakusho stems from the shinigami power - it repairs itself, dies with the shinigami (on TBTP when Aizen was experimenting, some found strange that shinigami vanished but left their shihakusho behind, which meant they couldn't have died a normal way, but rather 'changed form' in a strange way). They can still be taken off and worn by non-shinigami, though - like normal clothes.
    yes i kno dat...but what about the first time ???when a shinigami is born...is it like ichigo or they get dress made up by someone ??? anyways with aizen it was that their bodies disintegrated and they left their clothing ...even if it was normal dress it would have been same case... kensei pointed that out that the shinigamis disappeared without taking their black dress coz their shoe laces ....heir shoe laces were tied and they disappeared wearing them...was suspicious...its was only relevant to the point that shinigamis disappeared and left their clothes in the condition they wore them (like shoe laces were tied...so leg disapp)...but it never explained that how does shinigami get their black dress...

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    Re: Ginjo alive?!

    Quote Originally Posted by kkck View Post
    I'd think the fact that ginjo was said to be specifically in rugonkai by kukaky more than implies that ginjo was very well not alive the last time we saw him. At the moment he would be a soul with strong spiritual powers.

    To me the more interesting question regarding ginjo is whether he now has shinigami powers. We know that he at some point did in fact have shinigami powers perhaps much like ichigo and we know that at some point he lost them. Perhaps by dying he could finally get back shinigami powers of his own. I don't think he would be that valuable an asset with only his standard fullbring at this point.
    This is what I'm wondering about. He had Shinigami power once upon a time, but when we met him he was very much a Fullbringer. Actually, he activated Bankai in his battle with Ichigo, so he must still have posessed Shinigami power in some form, but it's interesting that he was able to use Bankai whilst using a human body (assuming he even was in a human body). As we've seen with Ichigo, gaining Fullbring affected his Shinigami power as shown by the change in his appearance, so it's probable Ginjou now posesses a similar blend of Shinigami power with traces of Fullbring. There's also the question of how much of Ichigo's stolen Fullbring Ginjou still posesses, if any at all.

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    Re: Ginjo alive?!

    uh... technically ginjo is dead. I mean dude- He IS in SS.
    ichigo buried him in the human world.

    I dont see why that is an issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoOneInParticular View Post
    This is what I'm wondering about. He had Shinigami power once upon a time, but when we met him he was very much a Fullbringer. Actually, he activated Bankai in his battle with Ichigo, so he must still have posessed Shinigami power in some form, but it's interesting that he was able to use Bankai whilst using a human body (assuming he even was in a human body). As we've seen with Ichigo, gaining Fullbring affected his Shinigami power as shown by the change in his appearance, so it's probable Ginjou now posesses a similar blend of Shinigami power with traces of Fullbring. There's also the question of how much of Ichigo's stolen Fullbring Ginjou still posesses, if any at all.

    I think his bankai was used through his fullbring. he definitely was not in spirit form only. which works out well because if he HAD been in spirit form, and been killed he would have been destroyed, not just killed and sent to SS as a spirit.

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    Re: Ginjo alive?!

    Dude's dead and alive at the same time! It's a paradox
    Erfworld

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    Meh can't have Bleach without fan raging, makes it fun.

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    Re: Ginjo alive?!

    ginjo's alive because the fullbring arc never truly got finished.

    the fb arc was supposed to be showing bits ishins background along with the background of ss when ginjo was there and his influence on the current plot and how it and many characters came to be. it was actually supposed to be a pretty fulfilling and interesting arc where chad and orihime probably wouldve gotten rid of their uselessness and gained some new things but there was no shinigami and in such people complained about the arc and kubo rushed it which is why we got the same reintroduction to ichigos powers and had them given to him in 1 chapter instead of him doing something original and new to gain them over the course of chapters.

    the fb are here cause they have unfinished business, nothing more, nothing less. honestly we didnt even see what they were truly capable of so no one should be surprised
    Last edited by Kid Chameleone; January 11, 2013 at 05:34 AM.

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    Re: Ginjo alive?!

    Ginjou is dead, but his spirit is in SS. Simple.

    I'm glad he's back. If Kubo had left Ginjou's story where he did, that'd be been some messed up writing. AndGinjou, I think, has potential to be a very detailed, and enjoyable characer. He's already my favorite.

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    Re: Ginjo alive?!

    Quote Originally Posted by jasminegreen View Post
    Ginjou is dead, but his spirit is in SS. Simple.

    I'm glad he's back. If Kubo had left Ginjou's story where he did, that'd be been some messed up writing. AndGinjou, I think, has potential to be a very detailed, and enjoyable characer. He's already my favorite.
    ^ i agree. i felt cheated with the way the fb arc ended, im happy theyre back too, tsukishima and ginjou are 2 top rank characters that deserve more screen time

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    Re: Ginjo alive?!

    Since the question was answered and discussion seems to be getting stale I am going to close the thread and move it to the archive section.

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