One Piece 696 Discussion / 697 Predictions

[chitgoks]

luffy had three fingers so that leaves shanks out right? unless he did not know blackbeard became yonkou

but the translation did say as long as shanks aint first which could mean he's taking him on last but it will be a friendly fight for sure if that happens

[Rosebullet Teacher]

I get the feeling Law doesn't know Luffy has already challenged Big Mom, and after Pekoms and Tamago saw the broadcast they assume Luffy has started an alliance with Law to fight her. With any other pirate this might not be a problem but Luffy will probably get him roped into the beef inadvertently.

FuS

[warbandit66]

If Luffy wants to fight Shanks that means Ussop will have to face off against his father.

[nitin]

more importantly luffy vs shanks should be without any alliance as that is what luffy wanted crew stronger than shanks crew.

[Razh]

If Luffy and Shanks do fight at some point, it's probably going to be a mano a mano match, where the loser has to back down. And Usopp could have a targeting contest against his old man. I don't see why their crews would engage in an all-out battle.

[vagabond87]

I'm pretty sure Doflamingo's method of flight and Buffalo's allow for different travel speeds... It's all speculation, but since it's Shonen I'd say Doflamingo would travel faster... Just because he's more badass! Personally I'd be shocked if he's not here in 1-2 chapters.. Law wanting to get out of there is indication of the danger of waiting around.

I'm also curious what that other mysterious bird like shadow is as well. Perhaps an envoy from Kaidou, or whoever Jack is.......
This thing arriving at PH could be a distraction allowing the SH alliance to get out of here...
I really hope it's a birdman envoy from Kaidou, who's pissed he won't be getting more Smile anytime soon...

As I said earlier I do think that Doflamingo landed on island already- during party- but he knows same as we know that he cant take on Strawhats(Monster Trio together can fend off/defeat an Admiral I think), Law, Smoker+G5 marines. Crazy doesnt mean stupid and he is not Whitebeard. So I think that first thing for him might be to wait a little for perfect moment to take hostages or he can just go to SAD room, put Vergo back together and attack with him after groups will split, simply part ways so to say. I would do it this way
We did not get any serious, long fight in New World(Smoker vs Law wasnt a fight for me but rather show off) so its perfect moment to show glimpse of how dangerous this all "Take down Kaidou plan" is with fight that will make monster trio use almost all of their strenght after two years of training just at beginning of that plan.

Luffy saying that he will beat up Emperors with smile on his face is.. Umm.. he is who he is so, he saw a lot during war.. He is cocky, thats a bad thing for me but I do think that he has beaten Rayleigh after 1,5 of training they had and thats reason why Rogers first mate left him for half of year alone on that island, saying that he dont have anything more to teach him. This would somehow explain why Rayleigh who fought all kinds of people during many years on Rogers ship says to Luffy.
"Go straight to the top".

When it comes to Zoro and his "level". He trained for 2 years with someone who for me is "Perfect Cell" of One Piece- Dracule Mihawk. People like to say that Mihavk isnt that great because he did not "own" Vista who whas "just" one of Whitebeards commanders and all I have to say is that Mihawk isnt all about power but I imagine him as perfection when it comes to technique, not "own everyone who doesnt seem Admiral level fighter in seconds" type of monster. Same with "who is stronger Shanks or Mihawk?" discussion. Zoro did not defeated him but surely closed the gap between them.

As for Sanji he had his two years in Hell. Literally. He shown amazing willpower staying a real man after two yers with monsters. When he was taking challenge from Ivankov it was show that Iva had one of 99 recepies in his hand so he was one of fighters that Sanji had to defeat in order to get all 99 recepies or at least make him give up last recepie. As it was shown last chapter he became fantastic cook who is one of greatest assets in crew, he is somehow helping Chopper with recovery of crew after each big fight. If anyone says that Sanji had his leg damaged after all that training he is right, Sanji underestimated Vergos hardness but just wait and see that Vergo will be said to be Metal paramecia Devil Fruit user with armor Haki on legendary level praised by people like Doflamingo, Cesar, Smoker etc.

And as ending to my post @Poneglyph420 - about man from the shadows- just look at Razh posts last 100 of them

[Ninja_Pirate]

If Luffy and Shanks do fight at some point, it's probably going to be a mano a mano match, where the loser has to back down. And Usopp could have a targeting contest against his old man. I don't see why their crews would engage in an all-out battle.

How about a davy back fight

Doflamingo is cunning ... and he can try fighting/provoke and still escape if he thinks that he is being pushed back by the forces gathered on Punk Hazard... But he will definitely makes an appearance on Punk Hazard

[Doomchen]

As I said earlier I do think that Doflamingo landed on island already- during party- but he knows same as we know that he cant take on Strawhats(Monster Trio together can fend off/defeat an Admiral I think), Law, Smoker+G5 marines. Crazy doesnt mean stupid and he is not Whitebeard. So I think that first thing for him might be to wait a little for perfect moment to take hostages or he can just go to SAD room, put Vergo back together and attack with him after groups will split, simply part ways so to say. I would do it this way
We did not get any serious, long fight in New World(Smoker vs Law wasnt a fight for me but rather show off) so its perfect moment to show glimpse of how dangerous this all "Take down Kaidou plan" is with fight that will make monster trio use almost all of their strenght after two years of training just at beginning of that plan.

Luffy saying that he will beat up Emperors with smile on his face is.. Umm.. he is who he is so, he saw a lot during war.. He is cocky, thats a bad thing for me but I do think that he has beaten Rayleigh after 1,5 of training they had and thats reason why Rogers first mate left him for half of year alone on that island, saying that he dont have anything more to teach him. This would somehow explain why Rayleigh who fought all kinds of people during many years on Rogers ship says to Luffy.
"Go straight to the top".

When it comes to Zoro and his "level". He trained for 2 years with someone who for me is "Perfect Cell" of One Piece- Dracule Mihawk. People like to say that Mihavk isnt that great because he did not "own" Vista who whas "just" one of Whitebeards commanders and all I have to say is that Mihawk isnt all about power but I imagine him as perfection when it comes to technique, not "own everyone who doesnt seem Admiral level fighter in seconds" type of monster. Same with "who is stronger Shanks or Mihawk?" discussion. Zoro did not defeated him but surely closed the gap between them.

As for Sanji he had his two years in Hell. Literally. He shown amazing willpower staying a real man after two yers with monsters. When he was taking challenge from Ivankov it was show that Iva had one of 99 recepies in his hand so he was one of fighters that Sanji had to defeat in order to get all 99 recepies or at least make him give up last recepie. As it was shown last chapter he became fantastic cook who is one of greatest assets in crew, he is somehow helping Chopper with recovery of crew after each big fight. If anyone says that Sanji had his leg damaged after all that training he is right, Sanji underestimated Vergos hardness but just wait and see that Vergo will be said to be Metal paramecia Devil Fruit user with armor Haki on legendary level praised by people like Doflamingo, Cesar, Smoker etc.

And as ending to my post @Poneglyph420 - about man from the shadows- just look at Razh posts last 100 of them

I like your take on the monster trios growth, but I don't think that Luffy has defeated Rayleigh in some sort of friendly match. Shakky estimated him as being 100times stronger than any of the SHs, so I think that would be impossible to achieve in two years. Also Rayleigh is probably in the top5 of strongest characters so far, so if Luffy had beat him the rest of the manga would be mostly a cakewalk. I agree on your assumptions about Sanji, he must have been able to beat Ivankov at some point which is an incredible feat. Also I am overly excited about Zoro finally telling what happened to him while training with Mihawk. After all, there's that thing with the missing eye that needs to be cleared as far as I can remember.

[Poisok2]

I really thought everyone saw this coming... It's only logical that Luffy will face Shanks. Shanks is one of the strongest pirates, and his objective as a pirate is the same as Luffy's - to become the greatest pirate = find the ultimate treasure. Shanks will probably end up helping Luffy become the pirate king, but their controntation is destined since chapter 1 (in my opinion).

[enmymiguel]

Luffy and shank will fight. But a friend fight to find out who got the better team. We know that from the begining. But for the other yunko. He will fight then to beat then.
I was wondering. Would it be better if zoro fight shank. Cause shank fight with a sword and hes friend and rival with mihawk. The rival i dont know. But the friend im sure.

[M3J]

Luffy feel pretty confidence about his power, i mean he saw how powerful whitebeard( yonkou) was while saying that he will take all the yonkou out himself, i don't know if luffy meant shanks too while i can't see luffy fighting shanks to the dead but just a friendly fight so show shanks how much luffy grow all this years and that he really meant becaming the pirate king.

Confidence doesn't necessarily mean he'll win. It means Luffy THINKS he will win. Even after being beaten by Crocodile twice, Luffy was still confident he'd win the third time. The only time we ever saw him lose confidence was after the war, after Ace died. Otherwise Luffy would always be confident regardless of how powerful his opponent is. Though, he didn't show confident against Aokiji, he didn't show fear or thoughts that he'll lose either.


Dunno why people don't believe he won't fight Shanks. He will, or he's willin to. What better way to show he's superior or a pirate king than to beat the four emperors? If he can't beat Shanks, he can't technically be free.

I think the three fingers have to do with him not counting Big Mom? Especially since he already vowed to beat her.

[s2k03]

he hasn't perfected haki yet, he has already stated that his armaments haki isn't good against sharp attacks, his conquerer's haki isn't at shank's level yet(oda stated that shanks would have been able to take out all 100,000 of the new fishman pirates), the only haki he has been shown to have pretty much perfected is observation haki, but he hasn't fought any opponents since the timeskip that have haki(except smoker in tashigi's body), so its unknown how he would really do against an admiral or a yonkou, and doflamingo was strong even for a shichibukai, in the war he fought crocodile and jozu, and never had to show his real power, he hasn't even been shown with an injury of any kind.

Luffy has all three kinds of haki, but so far two of them are shown to not be on yonkou level yet(conquerer and armaments), and he hasn't been seen fighting any opponents who have haki since the timeskip, and he almost died from a wound received from pill enhanced hody because his haki couldn't block the attack

Joker's abilities are still mostly a mystery, what is known is that vergo was his subordinate, and that law was also until recently, and he was able to fight crocodile(logia), jozu(haki user), and atomos(whitebeard commander) and leave with no visible injury

Again you are comparing doflamingos present to luffys past hahaha, im pretty sure luffy could destroy croc and all them without getting touched in his recent state. I hope you know not only was luffy fighting in the water which made him incredibly slow and weak, hody popped a shit ton of the pills.

Yes you are right about his armanent haki not being perfected and not good against sharp attacks when he was fighting hody, but that was when he was trying to harden his whole body. So maybe when he uses half of his body or only his arms it can handle sharp attacks and be unaffected. His observation haki and conquerors haki is pretty much perfected, he knocked out 50,000 people with it.... just cause he didnt knock out 100,000 like shanks doesnt mean he cant, like they said conquerors haki is based solely off spirit and as you know luffy has a shit ton of spirit so im pretty sure he can do pretty close to shanks lol.

Dude go back to the marineford when he was fighting them and put everything he has now. The reason he couldnt touch them was cause he had no haki. I think he can take Dofla youre making him seem like a god.

[Kisame Hoshigaki]

i think their is a mass panic of people thinking luffy is just going to try to annihilate the red hair pirate

if anything he just wants to surpass shanks maybe a friendly fight just to show off his power

but it would be followed by a kanpai or however they say it and singing and dancing, its not like luffy would try to kill shanks or vice versa

[ukimix]

I have a lot work this year. So I couldn't read most of the previos pages; so sorry if I come back to a point already discussed.

Straw Hats and Law will use the Sunny, and G-5 will board the ship just requested by Smoker. So, why to repair the tanker? I don’t get it.

Is it nearly believable that Kinemon was able to escape the effects of Shinokuni in such an easy way? I don’t think so at all. It makes of Caesar a really bad villain. Ok, he could be a terrible scientist: he doesn’t succeed in almost nothing; and it could be true that in the end, the only experiment in which he succeeded is in the production of SAD. It could be, in the end, that being our great hero a perfect stupid, (this time, Sanji pointed this chapter again), it would be a literary marvelous idea to have a harmless Clown as his rival (another one, because we already had Buggy, excuses to Buggy’s fans). But the fact is that, us, OP readers, spend the past year speculating about the effects of shinokuni, and believing that it was a lethal or almost lethal weapon. And now, it was like if we were told: “it’s time to finish this ark, so let’s finish this shinokuni stuff, and save this guy we need for a future arc”. Sorry but I don’t believe it.
So we have been severely trolled…. Or does anyone want to throw theories about what Caesar confess to G-5 marines. Because, I won’t be surprised if we never hear about people affected by Shinokuni again. (Thanks to the gods we have some secure evidence this manga has a well framed general plot. So the failed details can be swallowed).

Something I like from the chapter. As someone pointed G-5 is the most likable fodders of the whole manga. Yes his attempt to gain some dignity in drawing a line between them and the pirates is just … admirable... But, ey, they got a very important accomplishment, desired by almost all One Piece readers in the end this arc, say, to pinch Ceasar face with pliers. Kudos, G-5 marines.

[M3J]

i think their is a mass panic of people thinking luffy is just going to try to annihilate the red hair pirate

if anything he just wants to surpass shanks maybe a friendly fight just to show off his power

but it would be followed by a kanpai or however they say it and singing and dancing, its not like luffy would try to kill shanks or vice versa

I don't think Luffy will go for or try to kill any of the Yonkou, he'll just go for beating them. His goal isn't to kill anyone, but to be strong. Blackbeard is the only one I could see him killing, but the others he'll probably beat and leave alive. Luffy isn't the kind of person that'd kill anyone just to show his dominance.