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Translations: Bleach 595 (2)
Anyone thought about Vergo being "Diamond"? Would certainly fit, his clothes (and the burger he had on his face) had a Diamond-Pattern. Vergo was very proud of his Haki defense and diamonds are considered hardest marterial.
If some of Doflas Crewmates really have card aliases, it would be weird if Vergo, his most trusted subordinate hasn't got one.
yes its certainly a card themed "family" or group, of which law seemingly wants out
kind of funny that joker is the boss not "king" or something like that
OH! Almost forgot Ace was the Spade Pirates-- Must be no coincidence! Ace too was hurry for aiming Whitebeard's life right? The Aces (Spade, Heart, Club & Diamond) must have arranged a meeting where they have race! Defeat each one a Yonkou! They are 4 Aces and 4 Yonkous!
Law - Ace of Heart - North Blue : Big Mum
Ace - Ace of Spade - East Blue : White Beard
??? - Ace of Club - West Blue : Kaidou
??? - Ace of Diamond - South Blue : Shanks
Then it make sense.. Remember when Law saved Luffy, he stared at the Strawhat? Ace must have mention about Luffy - brother who used Strawhat a lot..
Aghh.. I REAAALLLLYYY want Law's Flashback!
Last edited by ikacantik; January 19, 2013 at 09:04 PM.
I'm not sure anymore if the "heart seat" refers to game cards, as that scheme was already used for the Trump Brotherhood in the second movie. Not that it was canon, but sort of reusing it would be kinda lame for the Doflamingo Pirates as there's also been a female Logia user already in the Trump Brotherhood, too...
And as Bellamy Pirates had mouth and tongue on their flag, I tend to say that the seats of the Doflamingo Pirates are representing several human organs...
Last edited by hoeru; January 20, 2013 at 10:12 AM.
Vergo is spy within Marine, I don't think he is supposed to be in front line unlike other crews.
One of kids from island somewhere in New World- island that was losing some kids to Cesar- said that Vergo once defeated pirates that attacked their island so I think that he is from time to time on frontlines when they need big "firepower". He is commander of base(I think that Momonga became one as well as we saw him sending forces after Strawhats were spotted on Sabaody Archipelago after time skip) but at same time he is Vice Admiral like Garp for example so he has freedom but what he is needing and using the most is his power of commanding big force of entire G5.
I would like if Vergo will be said to be considered as one of candidates for Admiral after war when truth about him will be revealed by Smoker to some higher ups of Marines.
But Ace’s pirate crew name being spade pirates could be a coincidence as well as the same just refers to Ace of Spade (the death card) because then we will try to say that this guy also could be related to Dofla -
Also as someone pointed out.. the same will become repetitive.. As the concenpt has already been used in Movie-2
So heart seat could be just heart pirates… which is related to the name “Death surgeon” indicating heart referring to the organ rather than deck of card … And joker is just the “Alias” so the same should not mean anything… Because most of the crew anyways calls him “young master” rather than “Joker” … which is his underground identity and not the identity within the group…
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Found all these scenes as canon –
- Dofla approaching execution platform to execute Ace
- Mihawk beating up Jinbei
- Mihawk beating up everyone on the field
- Mihawk running after luffy all the time
Wow. This got out of hand quickly. Does anyone else think it was just a pun?
Here. Crocodile prevented Ace's execution while Luffy was still trying to get passed the Admirals, on his way to the execution platform. After Crocodile prevented Ace's execution, Dofla shows up. He and Croc fight in front of the platform.
Croc disarmed the headmen the page before Dofla appears, while Luffy was still trying to get past the Admirals, on his way to the platform. There is no reason to believe Dofla is there to execute Ace. He is at the base of the platform, waiting to fight Crocodile. Nowhere does he try and harm Ace, nor is there any hint he intended to. Never is shown on top of the platform, with Ace, or near him.
Last edited by Kaiten; January 25, 2013 at 05:32 PM.
Thank you Kaiten.
I knew that scene.. just thought that there was some filler after reading "If I remember correctly in the Marineford War, Doflamingo went near the Execution Platform and tried to execute Ace" by X3D2YFaust but it was just his bad memory.
Seems to be a case of selective memory, nothing more. The War was an excuse for Dofla to amuse himself, while fulfilling his obligation as a Shichibukai. He didn't care about Ace, let lone try and execute him personally. I doubt anyone could link to anything suggesting otherwise.