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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
Of course I agree that to open more Bangs you need more concentration and more skill.
What an epic chapter the only thing I will hate is if Baam will just retreat after seing Koon... I think Rachel had notice Koon's plot and knew that Baam is alive so Rachel group wants to destroy Koon's group with the help of Baam by tricking him that Koon's group is bad
He established one room in two weeks, and if Ren was telling the truth, Ren was considered a genius for establishing one room in two years. In the approximately 6-7 years since then, Baam has shown the ability to use five rooms, something that no other E-rank regular (I know Baam's an irregular, but that's beside the point for the moment) has shown. Ran and Novick don't know of anyone in the E-rank who can use five rooms, and only about 10 E-rank regulars can use more than three rooms, which obviously means that they can use four rooms, and Baam's the only E-rank person who can use five rooms.
If Ren was considering a genius for creating one room in two years, I would say that a good wave controller should be able to establish one room in probably four, maybe five, years, and as everyone we're going to meet on the 28th, 29th, and 30th floors have taken longer to climb than Baam has from the 20th to the 30th floor, and the most that they're able to create is four rooms, you could argue that they've been climbing for 12-16, or maybe more, years.
SIU said that high rankers usually controls 20-30 rooms. so maybe 10 should be a little to much for D level regulars?
Dunno, it still too foggy
What would you think of 7-8 rooms for the top D-rank regulars? They need to have something more than E-rank regulars. If the most that an E-rank regular can usually manipulate is 4 rooms, then at least two or three more rooms should be necessary. Then again, we don't know to what floor D-rank actually goes. A lot of the E-rank floors are when you're just starting out, so maybe you don't have to be that strong up to that point.
The problem here is that we might fall into the miskate of looking at Baam to establish a norm. But Baam is far from normal. Novik was shocked when he saw the 5 Bangs, because that's not something an E-rank would be able to do, even among the top 10, where Novik stands. I would say Baam is already a D-rank regular, and not even a low one. Because even if Baam was fairly weaker than Love he did fairly good against him and the "fight" wasn't even over before Wangnan interropted them. Love is a high C-rank: 2C. That's why I place Baam among D-rank already.
Last edited by Daniel; January 28, 2013 at 12:03 AM.
The 7-8 rooms I suggested was for the very, very top-tier D-rank Wave Controllers, so basically the top-tier E-rank regulars who level up over time as they become D-rank, you get the idea. I was suggesting 7-8 rooms for the most elite, so basically around 10 guys, the same number who can manipulate four rooms at E-rank.
In terms of Love, don't confuse overall with C-rank. Just because that's your overall doesn't mean you're C-rank. Love's a Ranker, so while that's the overall he has, he's no longer a regular...It doesn't make Love a C-rank regular.
On the other hand, Androssi's potential, while still being on the Floor of Test, is 1A, which is higher than Yu Han Sung's current overall, although not his potential. If Androssi only fulfills her original potential, she would end up as a High Ranker.
Now i'm finally calm.
I think the one who "killed" Teddy was Bunnygirl, and that's the next development SIU promised. Koon getting together with Baam will help to make a plan against the next arc, this is crucial for that.
Baam using five rooms at once was awesome, owning this foolish arrogant brat of Ran plus the help of Novick it was hyper-awesome. I'm sure for that kind of explosion that the rooms contains a balanced level of Shinsoo from the user, using 5 rooms it would means each have 20% of Baam quantities of Shinsoo to make it. Because after fighting Mazino he showed his true strenght as Wave Controller using it all in his hand, and was a indeed strong enough to go through his weird named attack and scratch him, this is a real feat, hurting an Irregular, so i'll give him credit.
I didn't understood how Baam could manipulate these three red lighhouse boxes and create a shield with them. If it was introduced before, i passed away... or could be that it wasn't a shield, but his freezing technique that stopped the lightning.
Weeell, i repeat myself, this was an outstanding chapter, and made my week. Great developments i smelling to the next arc, getting all the protagonists together to something big enough to rumble the tower. Yeah, i missed the princesses
In terms of the lighthouse thing, most of us just assumed he used Triple Field or something and Baam does appear to be a capable Lightbearer as his secondary position. In fact, Baam actually seems to be a much weaker version of Yu Han Sung, just YHS doesn't seem to have Baam's copying ability. YHS is a Wave Controller, who is quite capable as a Lightbearer, plus is physically inept (I would liken that to how Baam took damage from physical sources, such as Wangnan's regular bomb).
Also, we don't know if Baam was the one operating the lighthouses this chapter. Reason says he wasn't, but we don't know.
I'm just ridiculously excited that we're going to see the meeting we've been waiting so long for. The action was great this chapter, and Bam's apparent LH ability was somewhat surprising. Excitement abounds.
You have my thanks again guys. If i recall correctly Bunny was with two boxes and then appeared a third one, sure summoned by Baam. The funny fellow of FUG was supposed to teach Baam about martial skills, hope he won't restrict only to control Shinsoo and going to Fisherman or Spearman whether a situation is required.
A great chapter. I like the battle. Baam surely is strong, eh? And the ending. Well, I'm excited to see the next chapter because both have "problems". Baam would think Koon's team killed Horyang, and Koon saw Baam with a person who sent an assassin for him. I wonder who will trust who, haha~ And I actually liked Ran though he thinks too high of himself sometimes, lol. He makes an interesting pairing with Novik.
that translation is wrong 10 people who can use more than 3 rooms is all wrong....what he said is the entire e-class there is 10 people who can use 3 rooms at once meaning there is no people who can use more than 3 rooms, it is rare those who use 3 rooms at once and he called quatro monster lol
Last edited by salvatore022; January 28, 2013 at 04:13 AM.
By the way, with the whole 10 e-class regulars being able to use more than 3 rooms, I believe that was a mistranslation, the mangapirate one just states 3 rooms which would make sense considering how they were talking about quatro