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Because either way, Luffy will do his thing, and Law will get dragged by the current. Any hope he had of following a plan ended the moment he enlisted Luffy.
Yes, It was just a way to speak. The point is this: what will Luffy want to do next? Because if he doesn't want to go to the Green point, Law is not going to force him. Safe bet there.
Last edited by ukimix; February 03, 2013 at 12:02 PM.
To the post above me: I think Law will try his best to control Luffy and the SHs (if that includes making them go with him or not is unknown) but he already recognized and understood that he may end up being the used one.
I already thought about this after the speech with Vergo and Monet, and even after than some chapters ago Bufalo and/or Baby 5 speak of “DonFlaming family” I believe that he really cares for his suboridinate, even if he is ready to sacrifice them.
I even believe that the reason that his subordinate are ready to die for him is because he saved them, in a similar way to what did Whitebeard with his man.
I think that he seem only apparently carefree (just like he seem in the war when he said to leave Luffy go, after Ace’s death, in the truth I think that just like for Luffy).
Anyways since the moment that we knew that he was make an alliance with Kaido, I begin to think that he was not so strong, infact if He would be really strong he would not make a partnership with a younkou (just like Luffy, infact he went against Big Mama even without help, and as we knew since the last chapter I already decide that he would face the others younkou anyways), he would be alone, just like Hancock or Mihawk (even if Hancock never go to the New World).
Beside I always thought that until we would saw how much strong would be his armament haki and if he had even the king’s haki he was weaker than Mihawk, Hancock, Kuma when he had his mind, and obviously even of the admirals.
Obviously after this last chapter I think this even more this even more.
His original question was how will destroying the SAD facility throw the New World into chaos. He seems to have misinterpreted Law's initial speech to Luffy, confusing cause and effect, believing Law meant to throw the New World into chaos first, before beginning his plan to defeat a Yonkou. He also does not seem to think that destroying the SAD facility will draw Kaido's attention. His rationale seems to be that destroying the SAD facility can not possibly be related to defeating a Yonkou, but he does not understand how it can be related to throwing the New World into chaos.
It has been stated explicitly that if he loses his supply of smiles, Kaido would kill Dofla. That is not a question. Law also has said that this is only the first step in his plan. Obviously destroying SAD production alone is not enough to take down Kaido. Worldwide chaos will of course be the result of taking down Kaido, there is no reason to believe it will also be the cause.
I think he implied that neither are using the other, that both men will benefit from the arrangement. Ultimately Luffy and Law will probably become nakama. Law has already saved Luffy's life, and now they are teaming up.Quote:
Last edited by Kaiten; February 03, 2013 at 01:45 PM.
I wonder wat kaidos jolly roger looks like?
The question about how the stoping of SAD production will cause a chaos is just the same question about the chronological order of the two objectives refered in Law's initial discurse.
I still ignore what comes first, and I see no conclusive arguments for any of those chances. But better than read a rational argument by some of us, it is better to read Oda's story, dont you agree?
Last edited by ukimix; February 03, 2013 at 02:16 PM.
Y do ppl think doflamingo n crew r weak? To me even the defeated baby 5 n buffalo were atleast decent fighters...they did get hit by sunny canon n survived after all.
Indeed like MiyamotoMusashi pointed the "world into chaos" expression comes from chapter 681 and was stated by Vergo. I don't see how someone who thought he could easily beat Law would mean that Law plan to defeat a yonkou by these words. Obviously it refers to the beginning stage of Law's plan. To provoke confusion/chaos so that, for some reasons yet to be told, Kaidou becomes more vulnerable.
I think all this is just a way to provoke Kaidou into movement. He's obviously a much easier target sailing through NW and hunting someone than sitting in a base on some island somewhere (or an equivalent to the base). Assuming anyone knows where he is.
Remember how Drake attacked that cyborg on Kaidou's favorite island in order to provoke him into action? I think the similar thing is happening here as well.
Of course, maybe that's not all there is to Law's plan, but I think it's a significant part of it.
It would be awesome if Kaidou ate Mythical Zoan: Typhoeus
They are similar, don't you think?Quote:
We also saw kaido in garp's thought when he explained the 4emperors' status to luffy. Btw, I doubt we are gonna see him in these volumes,unless he starts being mentioned in the miniadventure too,as caribo is in his favourite island.
here, here, and here). In chapter 681, Vergo merely repeats what Law had already said. Law's goal has already been well established: throw the New World into chaos and take down a yonkou in order to sweep away the old generation, and demonstrate the power of the new generation.
This week Kaido was definitively linked to smiles. He is Dofla's most important business partner. If Dofla can no longer supply Kaido with smiles, Kaido will kill him. If the goal is to first throw the New World into chaos, then take down a Yonkou, why was the first stage of Law's plan to unambiguously strike at one of the Yonkou's interests? Doesn't the order seem to be take down Yonkou, resulting in global chaos, proving that the new generation will shake up the old order.
Last edited by Kaiten; February 03, 2013 at 03:52 PM.