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Law's plan sucks! If you think about this, Doflamingo has got a lot of way to bypass it: he is important enough for the WG to obtain the following allowance: he simulates to leave the warlords, just so that the world will know it. However,the admirals and the WG will be aware of the fact he has to do so to counter some strong pirates,therefore they won't hunt him down. at the same time,he may have cc back,or even kaido's help to have cc back
what if Law needs the raction of someone in particular towards the news in the newspaper with the renuntiation of Dofla, someone who will do things Law needs to be done?
So, if you think it sucks at the end of the firs stage (and we ignore how many stages it has), it's because of the combination of (i) Law's plan has more that you can see at the moment, and (ii) you are thinking that you already understood the full plan.
DD has worked hard at keeping his underworld activity and Joker identity a secret. he even had Vergo infiltrate the the Marines to keep them off his tracks. So, if i were DD i would go to PH, save who i can, pursue the G5 marines and eliminate them. this might be why law told smoker about his next destination, maybe he anticipated that DD would go to PH and see what he could salvage and perhaps run into smoker. although it would really suck if smoker got his ass handed to him by yet another shichibukai.
but i would think "damage control" would be on DD's mind. and eliminating both the marines and the strawhats+law would be a priority.
i don't think DD will easily submit to law's will and i'm assuming that law is well aware of this and has accounted for this in his plan.
DD could ask his crew to move in pursuit of the Law-mugiwa alliance while he goes to PH or vice versa. the only thing that Law's ultimatum achieves is give DD a sense of urgency that forces him to act now rather than weigh out his options and come up with a well thought out plan. i'm assuming this is what law is banking on.
just thought i throw that out there as a theory and possible new point of discussion.
It looks like everyone in here failed a Math class at one point in time or an other....let me explain:
Everyone seems too focused on The Kaido part of the problem, While Ignoring the Marine side of things.
Law's Plan was to "throw the new world into chaos" yes. So far the Plan seems to be, kidnap CC, Disrupt the Production of Smiles, Force Dofla to quit his Shichibuakai position....and then....Well the Fact Remains that we have enough information to work out some of the Math of the situation Law is trying to create.
Looking at it from the Marines point of view(which I would assume is Heavily Influence bye Akainu)...They've had a Shichibukai in Dofla that has always barely listened to the rules and for the most part has kept what he does a secret(think crocodile in alabasta but even bigger scale). Now, it comes to their attention that Not only was Dofla Playing them like fools, Using his shichibukai status to cover his illegal actions, but he is also doing business with a man that was decidedly so Crazy and focused on Killing people that he triggered the events that forced the Marines off of PH, CC. In addition to this growing lists of issues its also become apparent that Dofla has been helping Kaido of the Yonkou amass a Huge army of ADF users. The Shichibukai were set up to compliment the Marines in times of battle and to balance out the world powers(yonkou vs marines/shichibukai).....
Which brings me to my second point, Once Dofla Steps Down, Not only will Kaido be after his head, but I would assume that the marines would see his resignation as a clear sign of betrayal-meaning that the marines will assume Dofla is leaving the Shichibukai in order to join Kaido and the huge army he has been building. Thus the Marines and their huge army of Pacifista will move against Kaido and His Forces. Law Stated in a previous chapter that both sides(yonkou vs marines/shichibukai) have been buying their time and building up their forces...it makes makes clear sense to me that this will be the triggering point for all the events that will follow in the New World.
Marines move against Kaido. Kaido falls at the hands of Luffy/Law. Big Mum Moves on Luffy/Law alliance. Kid's alliance shows up just in time to help battle her. BB hearing how Luffy/ect have brough down 2 Yonkou decides to move against the alliance in order to obtain more DFs and finally attempt to kill Luffy. Shanks shows up just in time...yadda yadda....the point is this moment right now in OP seems to me to be the CATALYST for the remaining story...
Law Please Bring the Chaos!
@StrawHat 13 Lol what you wrote sounds more like a chain reaction than something mathematical but i get the picture .It is interesting that you bring the point about the government and i think Law could be using Smoker to leek the information about Kaido and his Zoan army to the government.Knowing how impulsive Akainu is,he will certain take the bait.To use the government and Doflamingo to bring the "beast" down is quite a genius plan and machiavellian one too.What is sure is that after the defeat of Kaido things won't be the same in the new world.It will be chaos.
I doubt he will have to explain his reasons,and he should be smart enough to consider this. That man in the WG was above sengoku,so he is above akainu too. Furthermore,akainu hates pirates but warned jinbe more than once to avoid hurting a shichibukai,he won't do anything to him,and the other admirals will have to obey that. His status in this decade should be quite important for the WG,they should accept that. I see this outcome
threated to quit the Shichibukai if their orders are not to his liking. Fair enough, maybe he does hold some sway. For all we know, Dofla could have been acting like a petulant child. He had just been reprimanded for failing to kill Moriah. So far it seems a hollow threat. Two years later he has not quit the Shichibukai. The reaction of the official he was talking to was not really shown. He seemed surprised, but that is about all we can draw from ".....!!" We can not no for sure how the World Government actually would feel if he quit.
Law claims that the War with Whitebeard was just a prologue, Marine HQ has been laying low, building up their forces, seemingly preparing for something. If he's right, and Akainu is planning something, I doubt they would want to go to war with Kaido over Doflamingo. Dofla is not Ace, he is not related to Roger, his bloodline does not need to be stomped out. They wouldn't risk another Marineford over him.
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There's something I don't quite understand and I can't search through chapters to see if I missed it somewhere. Are artificial devil fruits even produced on PH? If yes, then what are SAD tankers for? They can either be used to transport SAD to a location where fruits were produced, or they can be used to transport a substance with which SAD is made on PH. If it's second, then it would mean Dofla supplies CC with materials/substances neccesary to make SAD in the first place and it means Smiley's can't be made without Dofla's supply.
Of course, there's always an option that Dofla isn't dealing only with Kaidou and that SAD also goes to other places. Maybe it's not only used to produce pseudo devil fruits? I don't think Vergo's words of warning to Law were just an idle threat. Stuff about Dofla's past or something like that. There's no such thing as a perfect plan.
this page and the next page of chapter 689. Cnet translation is even more explicit:
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Dressrosa should be the most probable location of the smilei factory.
Last edited by ukimix; February 04, 2013 at 05:11 PM.