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    Re: Naruto 618 Discussion / 619 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by marshall313 View Post
    Nah. Minato can't do anything if kishi decided to used his soul for sasuke/oro's sake.

    And do you really think minato doesn't know anything on the mask for summoning the shiki?

    And Noh. His reputation would even becomes more legendary if kishi let edo minato fight at this war. Just imagine he'll use some of his amazing jutsu and not just hiraishin and rasengan. Some of his sealing jutsu that can wet anyone's pants. He was said to be a destined child/savior of the world, and for raikage, he's unsurpassed. Then maybe it's time for that hype to surface in this manga. It's time for kishi to let the hype of minato to be seen in his manga.
    You know the difference between dead and living shinobi? The living,train,gain experience,grow,and get stronger. The dead ....stay that way.

    Orochimaru said he want nothing to do with this war,and still want Sasuke body.... So if he fights anyone it will be Sasuke. Sasuke won't lose, so that will not help his reputation...

    Just by some form of hope Orochimaru decide to go attack Tobi and Madara. Well Tobi has changed alot... That will not help his reputation.

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    Re: Naruto 618 Discussion / 619 Predictions

    ---------- Post added at 11:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:16 PM ----------



    What the hell is that?

    They're nowhere in the same level of minato in terms on his hype. Yea, they're strong, but for Pete's sake, they're far from legendary like minato.[/QUOTE]

    huh i didn't call anyone legendary or implied they were on the same level as him

    It's a list of people who aren't senju yet they have their own HYPE well three of them do the rest (not counting tenten for obvious reason) are skill enough to stand on their own with out a clan linage like minato just not equal in feats or skills

    I'd rather minato be the son of a shoe sales men and a bank teller who's father decided to let him become a shinobi of the leaf (since they live their already) because someone maybe third hokage told them their son has potential than someone from a long linage of skilled shinobi. but that's just me

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    Re: Naruto 618 Discussion / 619 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Sasuke View Post
    You know the difference between dead and living shinobi? The living,train,gain experience,grow,and get stronger. The dead ....stay that way.

    Orochimaru said he want nothing to do with this war,and still want Sasuke body.... So if he fights anyone it will be Sasuke. Sasuke won't lose, so that will not help his reputation...

    Just by some form of hope Orochimaru decide to go attack Tobi and Madara. Well Tobi has changed alot... That will not help his reputation.
    Yea, oro still want sasuke's body. If oro will use the 4 hokages, do you really think sasuke won't lose just because he's a living shinobi? Even if it was just minato, sasuke can't do anything at all. Minato's reputation can't be taken by sasuke alone. It's so damn early for that.

    Tobi changed alot? Yea, but he isn't that hard to kill, specially for minato. Minato has the tools to defeat tobi. And the way tobi fought kakashi is almost the same he fought minato from the last time. And the fact that we haven't seen anything from minato, we haven't seen anything on why he's unsurpassed for raikage and why jiraiya taught that minato is the destined child.

    So from your point of view, minato's reputation from being a destined child/savior and unsurpassed can't do anything to sasuke just because, err, sasuke is a living shinobi?

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    Re: Naruto 618 Discussion / 619 Predictions

    Sasuke has yet to go all out with his new eyes. As much of a troll it would be for him to even stand a chance against the 4 Hokages, don't put it past Kishi, just look at what he's making Naruto capable of
    "The line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?” - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

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    Re: Naruto 618 Discussion / 619 Predictions

    So in the next chapter when Hashirama and Sarutobi whip out their wallets and start forcing everyone to look at pictures of their grandchildren:

    Hashirama: My granddaughter is a surgeon and the Hokage, isn't that wonderful. Sarutobi, how are your grandkids?
    Sarutobi: One of them has been in the story for two hundred chapters without even getting a name, and the other one is twelve and does gay porn street performance with his bunshins.
    Hashirama: They sound adorable.

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    Re: Naruto 618 Discussion / 619 Predictions

    But anyway, this scene remind me of naruto and tobi. And now t'was sasuke.

    http://m.mangastream.com/mobile/read/android/12772977/7

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    Re: Naruto 618 Discussion / 619 Predictions

    If the scroll isn't for sasuke's power up, how sasuke will gain his next power up to fight some as naruto, i hope it's not another hashirama's cell..
    Next battle kyuubi power (naruto) vs hashirama's cell (sasuke).
    living in the darkness and now with a new light, i will raise to a new beginning...

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    Re: Naruto 618 Discussion / 619 Predictions

    sasuke's next power up will be hiraishin..

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    Re: Naruto 618 Discussion / 619 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by mattiaildivino View Post
    no,no,no! Itachi had told sasuke that amongst a huge amount of lies,that's what Obito told him too.i suggest you read vol.43 again... Sasuke definitely loved but doubted Itachi, and I felt strange that tobi said only that lie,as if it were the key to make sasuke an evil guy.
    about the zetsu,you should re-read vol.60 too,as sasuke only forged the zetsu to tell him what was going on,in fact he discovered about the war because the zetsu told him so, he didn't enter any mind!
    Itachi lying to him doesn't mean that Sasuke didn't believe him, as Sasuke indicated during the storytelling and later with the resurrected Itachi. Sasuke was shown not taking Obito's story at face value, later questioning Danzo and Edo Itachi about what was said. The Kyuubi incident was hardly the key, it was just one event on top of several, with Itachi's manipulation seemingly being considered the worst by Sasuke. Taking it away still wouldn't change the stuff with Tobirama, the Elders plotting against the clan, or Itachi being manipulated into massacring them. It's hardly as if Sasuke was gonna say "Oh, the Kyuubi incident was your fault, well that just makes their actions ok". As mentioned, he already plan on killing Obito because of his role in the massacre itself and attempted to do so before once again being countered by Kamui. Nothing would changed.

    The Zetsu said nothing of Obito being the mastermind or where Naruto was located, yet Sasuke knew both after employing his genjutsu. It can't be a coincidence that Sasuke went from calling him Madara before back to Tobi right then.

    Quote Originally Posted by badluckartist View Post
    Man. Danzou said that to give himself some worth in the context of the village. It seemed more like he was saying that to justify slowly building power literally under the nose of the village. Not saying it was a wise move by Kishi to villain-ize Danzou so much, but with every flashback involving him it looks more and more like Danzou did no good for Konoha and was just out for himself the whole time.
    While Danzo was mainly working for his own interest, it can't be denied that the actions we saw did have merit. The Uchiha clan, regardless of the reason behind their action, were a major threat to the village and needed to be dealt with. Naruto returning when Pain first attacked likely would have lead to his defeat, considering how much trouble he had against Deva Path alone, and Tsunade was honestly taking a huge gamble. And had he not been Hokage and declared Sasuke a criminal, that clearly would have put Konoha at odds with Kumo and the other nations. There's no way Konoha could have justified not treating Sasuke like the criminal he was, no matter how Naruto felt, the whole faith thing wasn't gonna cut it. Danzo may have been evil, but he was a necessary evil.

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    Re: Naruto 618 Discussion / 619 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by 88maroon View Post
    i just watched the anime and itachi stated the even he didnt know where Shishui disappeared to after he gave itachi his eyes.
    kabuto also stated that he couldnt find any existence of his body because he wanted to reincarnate him.
    So i feel like anything is possible. So what if Shushui comes out of no where and tells his story to sasuke. Told him why he did what he did. Why itachi did what he did and the state of the village through the eyes/blood of a Uchiha. The hokages could tell sasuke the truth but it will mean more when it comes from a uchiha..
    just a thought
    Thank you for being the first to mention this! I was thinking about that myself and have a feeling Shishui is NOT dead, instead disappeared and wandered off somewhere where nobody knows his whereabouts.
    As much of an information being revealed by the previous 4 hokages, Sasuke is someone who wouldn't give a damn and let his thoughts be impacted by someone who's not an Uchiha and most likely will just fuel his hate for konoha even more. Madara and Obito doesn't seem to be the ones to influence Sasuke anymore, someone who's next to Itachi to do so is definitely Shishui.

    On another note,
    What's with all the Tobirama haters?? Just because he's Hashirama's brother who battles using only water jutsu doesn't mean he's a little bitch living in his brothers shadow his whole entire life. As mentioned, he was the one who created the Edo Tensei Jutsu and formed the Uchiha police which will reveal a lot more for Sasuke than he wanted to in the first place.

    I'm overall excited with what the 4 hokages will reveal and do next including Oro and Sasuke.


    *The sad story behind the smile of the mask....*

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    Re: Naruto 618 Discussion / 619 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha_Blood View Post
    Kiri, with the bloody Mist and the Bloodline Purge?
    Kumo, with the way it abducted children?
    Iwa, with its using of Akatsuki?
    The Bloodline Purge was the only thing where Kiri unfairly killed, in my opinion. BLoody Mist was to decide the next shinobi. Not that I'm saying they're justified.

    Kumo didn't kill children.

    Iwa probably or likely didn't go after innocent people.

    Plus, Konoha has had bad, rogue ninja out there as well. Orochimaru, Tobi, Sasuke, and to an extent Danzou. I mean, Danzou was willing to let innocent citizens be killed to gain power, same village that he wanted to be a kage of. That to me is way worse than anything or almost anything I've seen in this manga, and I'm including innocent Uchiha has part of the innocent citizens.

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    Its the ninja world, the only Uchihas that were innocent were the kids, and leave them parent-less or up for the taking for people like Obito would've been really a bad move.
    Not to justify Konoha on the matter ( after all slaughtering innocents is always wrong ), but it was desperate means for desperate times.
    The Uchihas aren't blameless either, they could easily, as Rikudou said, just threaten to leave the village, that way it would be a massacre in plain sight and Konoha's population would have the Elders' heads.
    Why just say the kids were the only innocent ones? Other adults might have been innocent as well, at least some others. Hell, Danzou could have either took them in as Root or had them brainwashed somehow, but he didn't need to kill them or fear them turning into a vengeance seeker.

    Like I said though, I don't think either side is innocent or completely innocent.

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    I still think Kishi will redeem them by saying some bullshit like Obito controlled the heads, he didn't have the balls to even let the Hokages' souls rest in the Shinigami stomach
    I highly doubt he'll go with that, but probably.

    Hokages = fanservice though.Seeing as how many blind Uchiha haters we have here, I doubt redemption would be fanservicing.

    Quote Originally Posted by badluckartist View Post
    If the Raikage could dodge Amaterasu, I don't see why Naruto can't. Maybe not as efficiently though. I could see him comically having that ugly jumpsuit burned off... eternally.
    Raikage knew about Amaterasu and could react in time, and was lucky Sasuke didn't switch to genjutsu.

    Naruto knew about Amaterasu but still stood there (I think for plot reasons though), being saved by Itachi's crow. But thinking about it (probably inaccurate recollection), hopefully Naruto was ready to move at the last second. Though, I honestly don't think his reflexes match Raikage's.

    But he can do what Sasuke did to Itachi, only without trying to get caught. Though, I can see him getting caught to get Sasuke in a trap or something, like Sasuke did to Itachi.

    That is, if Kishi allows tactics... basic tactics Naruto in Part I used. <_< Brilliantly. God, I'd pay Kishi $50 just to get Naruto back on track as a character.

    Quote Originally Posted by badluckartist View Post
    I can't believe Minato is ahead in the poll. Why the hell does anyone want to see him fight anymore? We've seen everything he has to offer to the story, battle and otherwise. The only neat thing he could do by this point is find out that Tobi is Obito, and see how much his son has grown.
    Because he's still unknown, as is HIruzen. We know Hashirama can do Mokuton, and we've seen Madara use some of the Mokuton techniques. Tobirama's rarely been mentioned, while Hiruzen is old, though many do want to see what he's capable of. But I'm sure more people want to see what Minato can do, considering how popular and well liked he is, as well as just how limited his techniques shown are.

    I hope Kishi doesn't asspull an easy Sharingan genjutsu defense by Minato though... or dumb him up. Though in retrospect, I fear Minato being brought back and ruined by Kishi. Though I suppose Orochimaru is a good excuse for Minato not fighting at the caliber he fights at or is known for.

    Quote Originally Posted by Invader View Post
    I keep harping on this, but the Elders DIDN'T do that. DANZOU did that. There is no real evidence that the even "The Elders" had any intention of targeting innocents...

    http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c590/6.html
    But the elders didn't argue AGAINST it, they kept quiet. That does show that they didn't mind innocents being targeted. Neither did Sarutobi, apparently, but at least he tried to put more effort to establish peace before using drastic measures.

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    All that happened is they said that the Uchiha were rebelling and would have to be treated as rebels. Well - YEAH - they were rebelling! But the only person who EVER talked about killing them was Danzo. So I keep trying to correct this false notion that "The Elders" wanted to kill all the Uchiha. That may or may NOT be true. But at this point we have no evidence to support the notion that anyone but Danzou was targeting kids and innocents. For the record!
    Well, they were rebelling because of how they were treated by the elders. It's not like they weren't justified in their view.

    But one can argue that elders had no qualms about killing the innocent people - neither of them spoke against it or gave any kind of reaction. They just sat there as if they supported it or didn't mind at all.


    Though as two or so people mentioned, you can't really fault the elders or Sasuke wanting to be thorough to avoid any revenge. Though actually, you could fault Sasuke more here because his target should be the elders, not the citizens.

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    Re: Naruto 618 Discussion / 619 Predictions

    Naruto's reflexes aren't as good as Ei's? Ok? Ei dodges Sasuke's Amaterasu from point blank, with ease. Naruto dodges Ei coming at him at full speed, and dodges with ease. Naruto is currently the fastest living Shinobi, and you think he cannot achieve the same speed feats as Ei? Ridiculous. Naruto is also aware of Amaterasu so please stop talking absolute nonsense.

    I'm in disbelief at how many people actually think Sasuke will gain anything more than information from current events. Orochimaru wants Sasuke's body and is not foolish enough to allow Sasuke to gain any sort of power up that would make obtaining his body more difficult than it will already be.

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    No, it's not good as Raikage's. Raikage dodged Amaterasu with little warning. He knew it was coming, but he didn't know when. Naruto knew Raikage was coming, he had warning from both Raikage and his emotion sensing ability. Raikage had less time to react than Naruto did, so yeah, Raikage's still faster unless proven otherwise. Nothing proves my statement wrong, unless considering both were in different situation.

    Not to mention, he was as fast, then why didn't he speed away from Raikage in the first place?

    I never said Naruto didn't know Amaterasu. I did say that despite being warned that Amaterasu was coming, and knowing about it, Naruto stood there like an idiot instead of moving or getting away from Itachi's line of sight. It was, as far as we know, the crow who saved Naruto by placing Itachi under a genjtutsu.

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    Re: Naruto 618 Discussion / 619 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by marshall313
    Tobi changed alot? Yea, but he isn't that hard to kill, specially for minato. Minato has the tools to defeat tobi.
    No he doesn't. Unless you're talking about his immortality, then sure. Otherwise, no.

    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto_Rasengan
    Naruto's reflexes aren't as good as Ei's? Ok? Ei dodges Sasuke's Amaterasu from point blank, with ease. Naruto dodges Ei coming at him at full speed, and dodges with ease. Naruto is currently the fastest living Shinobi, and you think he cannot achieve the same speed feats as Ei? Ridiculous. Naruto is also aware of Amaterasu so please stop talking absolute nonsense.
    Have you been reading the manga lately? Any of Naruto's fights? Any of them?

    Kurama Mode Naruto is faster than Chakra Mode Naruto, and still he's failed every single time he's attempted to speed blitz Obito or Madara. Every. Single. Time. But nah, it's totally gonna work on Sasuke. Totally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto_Rasengan View Post
    Naruto's reflexes aren't as good as Ei's? Ok? Ei dodges Sasuke's Amaterasu from point blank, with ease. Naruto dodges Ei coming at him at full speed, and dodges with ease. Naruto is currently the fastest living Shinobi, and you think he cannot achieve the same speed feats as Ei? Ridiculous. Naruto is also aware of Amaterasu so please stop talking absolute nonsense.

    I'm in disbelief at how many people actually think Sasuke will gain anything more than information from current events. Orochimaru wants Sasuke's body and is not foolish enough to allow Sasuke to gain any sort of power up that would make obtaining his body more difficult than it will already be.
    He is also not foolish enough to make a move at this point. He rushed the things three times with the Uchiha (Itachi, Sasuke, Itachi again) and couldn't get to his goal. Power-ups or not, Sasuke is a tough opponent to take down right now. He isn't invincible -for someone to invincible; strong case: Being an Edo Tensei zombie, weak case: The Rinnegan as it's still currently the ultimate power in the manga-, so, unless Sasuke gains some sort of immunity to his technique through unknown methods, Orochimaru can always stay back and look for a chance to strike.

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