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NO. He would give her chakra that she can use, but it doesn't have to be her elemental affinity to allow her to use it. It just has to be chakra of a correct ratio, or frequency, or shape (whatever word you want to use to define symmetry). It's nothing more than a chakra boost. What that chakra turns into is not decided by Naruto or Kurama. It's decided by Hinata.Originally Posted by marshall313
Here's another analogy. Ino, Shikamaru, and Chouji all have their own cars. They're driving along the road and all three cars lose 1 tire. Ino's car uses round tires. Shikamaru's uses square tires. Chouji's uses triangle tires. Kurama would give them new tires, but, Kurama's Tire Shop only makes star shaped tires. So, how does Naruto fix this?
He alters the shapes of each tire so that they work for each person's unique car. He takes Kurama's star shaped tires and shapes one into a triange, one into a circle, and one into a square, then gives them to the respective ninja's.
Now each ninja can use each tire perfectly because Naruto made it so they could. Whatever the hell they do with those tires afterwords has NOTHING to do with Naruto. He simply made it so that they can choose what's done with the tires. He didn't give the tires any elemental affinities. He just made it so that these other 3 ninja can add their elemental affinities to it if they so desired.
In closing: stop trying to give Naruto abilities he doesn't have.
You really have no proof that Naruto is getting closer to Rikudou Sennin when Naruto can't even take on incomplete Juubi without the Kyuubi. Like it or not, Naruto's the closest to Rikudou Sennin in terms of ideals, while Sasuke is teh avatar of what Naruto or Rikudou Sennin fought against. Nagato, who was under Kabuto's control, managed to not only stop Naruto, but also own Bee in a way that it took plot to save them - Itachi being an ET and thus not Nagato's target. Naruto has not shown power that could put him on par with Nagato, who's the closest to Rikudou SEnnin. Naruto can't even touch Madara without help, and Madara's not even going all out nor has he went all out.
How so? I don't understand... he didn't even go all out against the Kyuubi when he was helping Naruto since he didn't want to damage Naruto.
I'm gonna use your analogy.
Just imagine ino, shika, and Choji are different kinds of cars that needs different kinds of fuel. (Unleaded, diesel and gasoline) They're driving along the road but they stop because they don't have any fuel left in their tanks. Kurama wants to give them a fuel but his fuel isn't compatible to them. So what naruto did is he mold kurama's fuel to match the three cars fuel.
Now, the three of them can start their engine again. And whatever they do with their fuel afterwards has nothing to do with naruto. He just gave ino, shikaku and choji the fuel they needs for their engine.
The thing is, we don't know exactly if kishi includes the chakra affinity on the list of the individual unique trait. But I think in kishi,s manga, a unique trait includes the KG, KT and normal. And this is not a fairy tail. That if natsu would be given a wind power, he gonna combine that to his fire, just like he did to the lightning.
My point is, naruto gave them a chakra that match to their chakra system/body. And I know it's still an assumption but the thing is, if there's chakra, then there's also the affinity. Naruto gave them a powerful chakra, so maybe that chakra has the same affinity to the user. Or there's something more from kurama's chakra.
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If hinata has the fire affinity, it doesn't mean that she can use that only to fire jutsu. Hinata's body would allow her to use her clans power like juuken. Because that her unique trait as an individual. Her chakra has the properties/characteristics to fuel her jutsus.
Just imagine hinata is a car. And she has the gasoline affinity. She needs her gasoline affinity to start her engine. Then naruto gave her that fuel that fits to her affinity, hinata could start the engine now because of naruto's fuel, but, it doesn't mean that the gasoline affinity fuel is just for the engine. Of course, hinata could use the other features in his body with naruto's gasoline affinity. She can use naruto's gasoline affinity fuel for her clans power like aircon, sound system, dvd, hd tv and the other features on her body/model.
Last edited by marshall313; January 26, 2013 at 06:10 PM.
I get your point, but I believe the gasoline analogy gives pretty much the same meaning with what I said. Naruto gives the fuel, but how this fuel is used in the ignition systems (nature transformation) to run the car (jutsu) is up to the person he shared his chakra with.
Or I got your analogy wrong perhaps?
Its also the same thing the Bijuus did when giving Naruto chakra, they allowed him to continue despite being drained. Point being, chakra sharing, expecially Bijuu-chakra sharing, isn't something otherwordly, every Bijuu and Jinchuuriki in control can do it.
Naruto does it better, doesn't change the fact that its not that impressive as OP wants it to be.
"but how this fuel is used in the ignition systems (nature transformation) to run the car (jutsu) is up to the person he shared his chakra with."
element is among the traits of one's chakra. i hope you didn't forget about the paper that is used to determine element. Naruto knew no nature manipulation, yet the paper reacted detecting the wind element. if element isn't a trait for chakra, how did that happen?
And to the OP, Naruto like everyone is trying to tell you is only like Rikudou in terms of ideals. In terms of power he is not particularly that impressive (without the kyuubi) like M3J said, Nagato who was the closest thing to Rikudou was able to manhandle Naruto.
In terms of ability, Naruto is still quite poor in comparison to other S-Rank nins out there, he hasnt shown anything to make me think that he is even a fraction of what Nagato was let alone Rikudou.
Dont forget, Rikudou soloed the Jyuubi, Naruto is having trouble with it even after becoming butt buddies with the kyuubi. Youre free to believe Naruto is breezing through this war if you want to give him Rikudou like status.
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And Rasenshuriken is a Futon release jutsu, read this whole chapter and youll understand.
I suppose you did admit to being wrong though.
Element isn't a trait on its own, it's the affinity that makes the paper react. In a way, what made the paper react wasn't because the chakra had a wind nature, it was the affinity. There is a slight distinction between.
and of course it sensed something from chakra. call it affinity or nature. if all chakra were same, then why would some would have affinity for wind and some will have affinity for earth? that must mean, there is something in the chakra that defines the affinity.
Last edited by darkprince0521; January 27, 2013 at 09:11 AM.
In other words, what I'm saying is the trait determines your ability to use nature transformation. It's not the transformed elemental chakra resides somewhere in the body. All chakra aren't the same going by that tendency residing, it's just they don't have an elemental side initially.