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Based on what we saw from Yamato though, Hashirama's ability to heal himself does come from Mokuton. I mean, Yamato took a sword to the chest and got up like nothing after using Mokuton. Mokuton being alive or as powerful can actually be attributed to his own life force/chakra, not necessarily Senju's or Uzumaki's. Tsunade and Karin are the only Uzumaki blood known to be able to heal, but Karin hasn't shown to heal herself. we've seen many non-Uzumaki healers as well.
If that was the case, that it was due to their life force, then Hashirama wouldn't be the sole user of Mokuton. There were plenty of other Senju, yet only Hashirama had these abilities and only his Dna could power-up others. No one wants Tsunade's Dna or Tobirama's Dna or X's Dna. It's all about Hashirama. All life force have been mentioned for is extending their lives, allowing them to live longer. That's something we've seen from several Uzumaki's, Kushina and Tsunade surviving when anyone else would be dead. Mokuton's the only element that involves bringing something to life. That's a key attribute of it, that it creates actual life.
Hashirama wasn't exactly the standard either, given the uniqueness of Mokuton. It's true that Kishi has been spare concerning Senju abilities, but he really didn't hype them that much even upon their introduction. Really not much one can do to show physical power other then making them to live longer then normal be their thing. They don't even got the chakra angle to use given how widespread that has become.
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We have Sasuke, Itachi, Madara, Obito, Shisui have different variant of MS. Like Senju/Uzumaki body, most Uchiha have basis 3 tomoe Sharingan, and not all Uchiha can unlock it same as not all Uzumaki/Senju will be very special with their body.
From my analogy and the Senju/Uzumaki feats, I can infer with some positive probability that Kyuubi is only amplifying Naruto's feats. We even see Karin, and Nagato that can sense within wide range as if they were omnipresent. Tobirama could sense enemies by just touching the ground, and detect even their number and strength. Moreover, similarly to Uchiha case where some Uchiha don't have Sharingan, you cannot expect all the Senju/Uzumaki to have these feats.
Going back to kyuubi, I am pretty sure that everyone have noticed how Kyuubi is extremely special among all the Bijus. My opinion is that he might not be that special, but just have copied, and is showing Uzumaki's and Naruto's own feats. Specifically, the chakra cloak in BM is full with facts that prove they are Uzumaki related. Some people would say Rikudo, but I can only see the Uzumaki spiral symbol.
In conclusion, we have a single Kyuubi being attributed power that are seen in a whole clan. Let not forget that in this manga Senju/Uzumaki are said to have strong body and live long. Healing is part of their natural heritage from Rikudo.
Very important fact about Jinchuriiki-biju relationship
When a biju is sealed within a Jinchuriki, there is a mixing of their chakra and a symbiotic relationship. The biju feed on the Jinchuriki, and the Jinchuriki also receive the Biju chakra. As consequence, even after Gaara was extracted his shukaku, he still keep the power of his beast. This led his father to think he was still Jinchuriki. Roshi could use Lava because of his beast. It is then possible that the Biju can also copy the feat of his host.
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Sensing others is not a unique trait of the Uzumaki. We have seen dozens of non-Uzumaki showcase the same ability. Not to mention that the Kyuubi's sensory ability is different, what with sensing emotions instead of chakra like normal. And the cloak is directly reflective of the key seal, which was specifically mentioned as the Rikudou Sennin's.
Seeing as he can recover all his chakra just by meditating, that's how he survived. And no he didn't grow inside Naruto, you can see he is just as big as he was when he pierced Kushina and Yondaime.
As for the death of the host, that's part of the design of the seal, if they shared their life force then why is Kyuubi untouched when Naruto was wounded?
i think to gedo tensi all you need is sharingan and senju power thats why obito was able to do it
considering that itachi must have given other than shisuis eye with his uzumaki clans power naruto also can do that
Second, life force and flesh are not the same. Even if you cut Naruto's arms, his life force will still be in him. That is why he will not die. On the other end, if you kill Naruto, the Kyuubi will also die, which means Kyuubi's life depends heavily on Naruto's life. This is why I said they are sharing Naruto's life force. Take the example where Kabuto tried to kill Naruto.
Even when you can see that if Naruto uses Kyuubi's chakra all his life, Kyuubi has to recover from this deal. As far as we know, Kyuubi has never taken external energy. Thus, the energy has to come from Naruto. Hachibi explained how this work between Biju and host. Maybe on a battle where they are buddies, the bijuu can hold back. However, after the battle, the biju will take is chakra back from the host. Here is the evidence that the Kyuubi was feeding on Naruto's chakra.
Naruto said it clearly. As much has Kyuubi is aware of Naruto taking his chakra, Naruto is also aware of Kyuubi taking his chakra.
And the Biju's are physical manifestations of the chakra of the Juubi. It just so happens that the Juubi is full of natural energy. Meaning, the 9 Biju's chakra has to part natural energy. However, this "demonic chakra" that is poison to most humans is different than the Sage Chakra Naruto, Jiraiya and Kabuto use in ways I can't explain.
And that link you posted was after Naruto started using RK mode if I am not mistaken. That was when the Kyuubi started taking his chakra, he was never capable of doing so before.
And the Hachibi was speaking about whenever you use the Biju's chakra to transform. In the past however, Naruto has either been "given" the Kyuubi's chakra free of charge, or he could access it via his seal and simply take small amounts of it with no ill affects.
In fact, while fighting Kakazu Naruto had exausted all of his own chakra, and needed the Kyuubi's chakra to even continue fighting. How in the hell could the Kyuubi take his chakra if he had none left to give?
As for the Kyuubi "devouring" Naruto, he meant that in the sense that he would take over him mentally, emotionally, and physically when Naruto lost faith in himself and gave into the Kyuubi. This happened while Naruto fought Orochimaru, almost happened while he fought Deidara, and happened again while fighting Pain.
tsunade is not an uzumaki
she is from senju clan
I think naruto is gonna become the 10 tails jin and sasuke is gonna get the rinnengan and together they will finally break the curse of the uchiha-senju through peace like the elder sage intended, having both his sons work together in harmony and helping maintain peace throughout the world. the sage picked the senju i think naruto is gonna be a leader, while sasuke accepts his flaws and realizes that power isnt simply the answer to everything which the sage wanted his son to realize.together the senju and uchiha will recreate the sage, so i guess them working along side will be like him returning to the world in a way...well thats what i think is gonna happen. kishis spouts a lot about love and peace so i could see something along these lines happening. i mean naruto has won almost all his fights with talk no jutsu after all...
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