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Another thing when talking about keeping there "humanity" what of people/warriors like Roxanne or Agatha or Ophelia who had no care what so ever for human life and in fact enjoyed killing humans..can you really say that they are any more human then the Yoma that they slay or AB?
And was it not hinted in the slashers arc that the Male awakened being they were sent to kill worked for the organization(disposing of troublesome and disobedient warriors who are given miss information which leads to there death).
What I meant by sanity is their mind/brain's thought process.
Obviously the mind/brain eventually gets used to their Awakening and settles down, in the case of Riful.
But right after Awakening, notice how Luciela acted, killing everyone in the Organization, wounding her sister in the eye (probably didn't even know who she was), and then deserted the Organization.
Yet after some decades, she seems so calm and wise while fighting Isley and then even notices Rafaella and remembers her memories again.
It's sort of like alcohol and being drunk.
You momentarily lose your sanity and do wild things (swear, beat people up, etc etc).
This is similar to the Claymores. Awakening is akin to sexual arousal, and to Males they cannot control this at all and become rabid creatures. To the females, they can still control it, but it's more like being drunk and irritated while extremely ecstatic the same time. Eventually, the effects wear off as the brain adapts to the new body, but for some unfortunate ABs, they just end up never adapting and becoming insane forever.
But most cases, like Riful and Luciela adapt in a short while.
And Priscilla easily adapted to her Awakening, but it seemed like she embodied some new traits of confidence, bravery, courage, etc etc when she awakened.
on the main land as was stated. they are losing. they are desperate. and many of their warriors awaken on the front lines and kill friend and foe alike. with this in mind. and not knowing if their are more islands like the one this world of claymore is currently placed on. we can assume that the results of all their research is sent directly back to the main land. meaning this....
any monster on this island can be reproduced on the mainland. failed and or other wise.
prissicla is not a one of a kind if this is indeed the case. clare will not be a one of a kind if this is indeed the case. they would have built a larger scaled weapons facility on the main land that was pumping out new models day by day.
It's quite obvious that the Organization wants to establish some power/wealth on that island, and they don't want any type of technology or company that can compete with them.
So my theory is that either the island/people there themselves have not evolved yet, or the Organization has intentionally stripped all technology there.
It's similar to how the rumor about Yoma existing on the island ever since the start was circulated by the Organization as a lie, but the truth was lost through several generations, and thus became fact.
Perhaps the Organization took away all the technology in that island or reduced it slowly until it became a colonial mess.
Or again, the island is an isolated "relatively small in comparison [to Mainland]" landmass that is supposedly very distant from any other communication of life, thus crushing any minute chance of advancing past wagons and swords.
From this theory, the Mainland, on the contrary, would boast modern world 21-st century technology, or more likely, some technological surges a few centuries ahead of us.
Because if the Mainland were like the Claymore Island, the sole existence of the technology of creating Claymores, yet the lack of any guns or electronic utilities such as TV/cars/phones/etc on the island, is virtually impossible. It makes no logical sense. Here we are, in the 21st century, struggling to produce artificial life, but decades ago mastered the art of warfare, yet we have a remote island with biologically enhanced human life and complete lack of weapon combat superior than that of an iron sword and shield.
Though there is the slight chance that this could happen, it's very unlikely for a civilization to develop technologically in such a manner (exponential advancement in one faction, yet primitive traces in another).
So what I'm stating is that perhaps there are teleportation devices, lasers, 4D stuff, etc etc (and the Claymore technology being one of them) on the Mainland.
Yet this theory again seems quite doubtful, since again and again, it has been exaggeratedly hinted that Claymore is supposed to be a "medieval world" and we have seen the warfare prototypes in the Mainland; spears, armors, JUST LIKE medieval warfare.
And unless they advanced into such a futuristic world within such a short period of time, my guess is that the situation in the Mainland has not really improved much, considering that they really don't have much time to culturally, economically, socially, and technologically develop in the midst of a terrifying war.
The more plausible theory is simply to me, it seems now, is that the DoD are essentially a much more bizarre, DNA-diverse, exotic species unique to the Mainland and so.
Think of them as much more genetically vibrant breeds of wolves. Yes, wolves.
Remember how primitive men used to wage war with...dogs/wolves and spears with stone shafts?
Except these DoD are just extremely unique wolves.
And then there happens to be an extremely lucky modification in discovering the Claymore technology, light-years ahead, and not knowing anything about DNA and genetics at all.
But then again, this IS a fantasy world. Maybe the stuff that their world is composed out of is based on substances called "hatred" and "Eyou-kee" and "Eyou-mah" rather than DNA and cells.
Since this isn't our world they might possess a different 'tech tree' than ours. Its also possible they have a taboo against gun use in case firearms disrupt the social order like in Edo Japan.
The different relationship that social elites and commoners have toward technology in Claymore reminds me of Dune.
What do you mean by this? Forgive me, I have only see the movie Dune, which was produced by Dino De Laurentiis (Yeah the same as Giada De Laurentiis). I saw two versions, although the one I remember most vividly featured Kyle McLachlan, Patrick Stewart and a very young Sting. So my point of view is based soley on the movies and not on the book, which has been herald as the greatest SiFi book of our century.
From what I saw, the major houses and those of influence had the use of interstellar travel via use of Spice. The lower classes or servants merely tagged along on the ride to serve those of authority. I don't see any difference between reality or anything portrayed in Claymore. Those of influence or power determine the lives and destiny of the weaker. The Organization, wielding warriors and yomas, dictated the financial obligations of the commoners.
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second theory would be that they did suppress the tech like you said.
maybe its lost technology. maybe the main land had a break through in metallurgy just before the arrival of the dragon kin. this would give rise to the notion of something along the lines of the library of Alexandria. and how it was burned to the ground with multiple cultures technology lost to history. of course some of it was recovered. the hole i see to this theory is the weapon called the claymore/half breed was a reactive measure to counter the dragon kin. however the sword its self could have came about before then. its hard to ponder on because yagi has left soo much info out about the main land.
^I believing that this whole Mainland thing was never planned out from the start.
The way it was explained and put into the story seems like it was another desperate attempt made by Yagi.
Honestly, having all this stuff about the Claymore Island and then oh, we have a whole another world in front of us some 80 chapters later?
Who else wants to bet that we'll never hear about the Mainland again (or at least until Yagi needs to cover up more plot holes)?
There exist other similarities ie. the similarity of the Spice Agony to the Awakening, and superpowered female armies.
entire thread on this matter and most people agreed that there is a great possibility that Organization mainland force will invade the island i nthe time or after the last battle to try to regain control over the experiment.
Witch is logical, when your most important military experiment go into crisis you try to stabilize the situation in any way you can. Giving how much desperate Organization must be I am sure we will see some kind of attack maybe near the end or during the very battle at Rabona that is waged right now. Or maybe they will attack Org. HQ first, massacre Claymores there and those who survived the attack will retreat and warn Ghosts just as the battle is getting to it's climax.
In any way, I don't think that Yagi will leave Mainland as it is - just a mentioning.
Last edited by Brother Coa; March 11, 2013 at 09:42 AM.