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    Italy Mission

    Recently, while re-reading the entire series, I came up with a crazy and wild reasoning for Gantz deploying the Hunter's mid-mission thousands of miles away.

    Fellow MangaHelper GeorgeMarvin has an entire thread devoted to Nishi, and this is an extension of sorts.

    What I mean to say is, the cause for the Italy mission IS Nishi's impending doom.

    Gantz shows quite a bit of respect for Nishi (Nishi-kun), as opposed to others: Kurono (Bitch), Sakata (Dumbass), and Kishimoto (Titz).

    Nishi, in ch. 289 was about to die again, and Gantz seized this opportunity to not only save one of his valued Gantzers, but to also complete one last, insane mission.

    There's probably a shit-ton of holes in this theory, and it's also 3AM here, but feel free to discuss and pick apart my weak musings.

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    Re: Italy Mission

    I don't see how Nishi would be relevent to Katastrophe other then having some information on it.

    Besides, if Gantz wanted him alive, the he wouldn't have died in the Tanaka mission...

    Interesting thought though.

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    Re: Italy Mission

    I don't think Nishi is relevant to Gantz, he just have a decent "nickname".

    IMO it was just luck, like Kurono when Izumi shot his chest.
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    Re: Italy Mission

    Quote Quote:
    IMO it was just luck, like Kurono when Izumi shot his chest.
    No luck whatsoever that time; Gantz went to a lot of trouble to set up that whole massacre. He chose to keep Kei in the game and bring Izumi back.

    Gantz' timing is a little suspicious. He gave Kei a warning that there was going to be a mission just as the guy with the Glock 9 mm was about to shoot Nishi.
    http://read.mangashare.com/Gantz/cha...9/page013.html
    Note that in the past, Gantz always gave them several minutes' warning before a mission. In this case, he sent Nishi in less than a second after he sent the warning.
    http://read.mangashare.com/Gantz/cha...9/page014.html
    Notice that even after Nishi has been sent, Kei's transfer hasn't even started. He isn't even dressed yet.
    http://read.mangashare.com/Gantz/cha...9/page015.html
    Kei has plenty of time to change clothes before his transfer begins. We see his clothes thrown on the floor, he's changed into his suit, and he's just sitting there waiting when it starts.
    http://read.mangashare.com/Gantz/cha...0/page001.html

    It may be that Gantz was going to send them to Italy, anyway, but he definitely didn't follow the rules for Nishi's transfer. It looks like he did manipulate the timing of the transfer so that the SWAT team didn't kill Nishi.

    I think that Nishi is one of Gantz' favorites. It does look like Gantz may have manipulated the events to some degree to save Nishi, but the mission would have happened anyway; it looked like several Gantz teams had been killed, and it was a huge battle, so they needed all the teams that they could assemble. I don't think that Gantz volunteered to send his whole team to Italy to probably get shredded in a really dangerous mission, just so he could save one member. He just fudged a little by grabbing Nishi just as fast as he could.

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    Re: Italy Mission

    I thought Izumi was a favorite of Gantz also. Then why didnt he save him when he was being attacked by the vampires? He saved Nishi then why not Izumi?

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    Re: Italy Mission

    Quote Originally Posted by georgemarvin View Post
    Note that in the past, Gantz always gave them several minutes' warning before a mission. In this case, he sent Nishi in less than a second after he sent the warning.
    Everything was fast paced in that mission: as soon as everyone was in the room the ball opened, as soon as the ball opened the transfer started, and they had a premature finish of the mission too.


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    Kei has plenty of time to change clothes before his transfer begins. We see his clothes thrown on the floor, he's changed into his suit, and he's just sitting there waiting when it starts.
    Nishi was the first to be sent and Kurono was the last, that's why there was a good time difference between both transfers.

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    Re: Italy Mission

    I disagree, Nishi maybe felt the "warning" but he was too busy fighting the police to make a big deal of it.

    In my humble opinion it was just luck, the warnings may be send at the send time but the transfers occur in different times.
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    Re: Italy Mission

    Quote Originally Posted by GAT-X252 View Post
    I disagree, Nishi maybe felt the "warning" but he was too busy fighting the police to make a big deal of it.

    In my humble opinion it was just luck, the warnings may be send at the send time but the transfers occur in different times.
    That, plus dramatic effect.

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    Re: Italy Mission

    Quote Originally Posted by DawgX View Post
    I thought Izumi was a favorite of Gantz also. Then why didnt he save him when he was being attacked by the vampires? He saved Nishi then why not Izumi?
    As georgemarvin said, the mission would have happened either way anyways. Izumi died 3 days before the Nurarihyon mission, so there wasn't any chance of him surviving. Nishi got lucky that it happened on the night it did, that's all.

    Izumi's my second favorite character in the series, and I loved his final words so much. I would love to see him back, but if he doesn't come back I can't really complain. It's hard to imagine catastrophe without him though... He would have loved the Italy mission because it would have given him a chance to compare the Tokyo team to the other teams from around the world, which seemed to be something he cared about. I've always felt like Izumi knew more about catastrophe than the others, or at least that he was confident in his theories.
    Last edited by roxas_strife2; June 06, 2009 at 11:42 AM.

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