
Originally Posted by
IamJacky
What a freaking chapter. 2 (or is it 3?) more chaps to go and it is the end. As far as prediction goes, I have to say that I somehow knew what was going to happen ever since the fall of Abayama & the new bloods, it became clearer that most key characters would die when Makie exited a few chapters ago, but the way Samura depicted these scenes were simply way more powerful and emotional than I anticipated, it was emotionally immense and still full of surprises even when I kinda knew what would go down; even the title of this chapter is powerful/beautiful, which borrows a phrase from Confucius Analects "未知生, 焉知死? While you do not know life, how can you know death?" BTW it was actually the passcode to get on board for the security question "Dare I ask of death?". I have always imagined the ending of Anotsu losing one of his arms and he'd move on alone... but this chapter proved me wrong, it was done beautifully though, I can totally accept that (I mean look at those 4 panel shots as he smiled, even he accepted it alright).
The only remaining conclusion yet to be seen is the fate of Manji and Rin. Manji had warned Rin before never to risk her life for him ever again because to Manji's perspective she should not have done so for a bodyguard, I think he is very likely to leave Rin after this whole ordeal - or - through whatever reasons, Rin will convince Manji that they are not just bodyguard-the guarded relationship and there is a reason to stay together, I doubt they'd become lovers/couple though. Blah, I wouldn't mind either way.
Most of the key characters who passed away by now have done so in order to fulfill their purpose/duty/goals in life, though tragic for they had to die, most of them did so for causes and ideals they believed in, and so their deaths/endings were duly justified. I'm most concerned with Manji's fate though. Through out the whole series his purpose was to protect and help Rin, and now that all is done, I wonder what'll happen next... Does he still want to die as he initially wished for (like 19 years ago)? What happens to the "Slay 1000 evil men and immortality is dispelled" pact? At this point I don't think there is any reason for Manji to choose to go back to that route, but then I don't know what he will do next neither. I think it's safe to say that his new purpose is Rin, but to live forever with her and never age? that wouldn't make much sense either... so maybe he'll do something to lose his immortality and just stay with Rin.
Rin has now finally avenged her parents. I think she will head back to Edo and look after Renzo? Or in the perfect world she'll end up with Manji forever after (which to be honest, would be kinda lame). Magatsu will probably hang around with Master Sori, or maybe become a vagabond. He did kill a lot of samurais in the Edo castle though, not sure if he'd meet his demise because of that. Giichi and Hyakurin, they okay.
Wait, maybe somehow Manji will have his immortality dispelled, and then killed by Renzo? Maybe that'd teach Rin the lesson that revenge is not the right path. I don't know, can't think of any satisfying ending, but I'm sure Samura-san will conclude the series with a spectacular ending. Looking forward to the next few chaps!
---------- Post added November 01, 2012 at 02:56 AM ---------- Previous post was October 31, 2012 at 01:15 AM ----------
So after a few more reads and Google Translate. I think I kind of get what Manji and Anotsu exchanged. I studied a little bit of Japanese in the past and here's my take, any correction is welcomed, I too really want to know what are the final words of exchanges from Anotsu and Manji.
At the beginning of the chapter, Anotsu was shown having his arm cut off.
Anotsu: "It feels nice..." "To be fighting to the last bit of strength.... wouldn't it be nice if I could just rest here..." *look at Manji* "are you not going to finish me off?"
Manji drops his sword and asks what the reason is that Anotsu made Rin bring him here to join this final showdown.
Before Anotsu could start talking in details, the ships came, and cut to the boarding scene.
At boarding, the Chinese shipmen asked the same secret question they asked Douma, which was a phrase from Confucius Analects: "Dare I ask what death is?"
Anotsu answered accordingly. The shipmen asked if Anotsu enjoyed the Analect, Anotsu says no, and said something about the government (bakufu) which I could not understand. The shipmen told Anotsu that Makie is dead, does he still want her on board, and Anotsu says yes please. Then the ship men asked if there were any more people, Anotsu said yes there should be one more (I think he meant Magatsu or Ozuhan), but moments later he said that it'd be just him and Makie.
Then came Manji.
Anotsu: "If you don't kill me now, I wonder when would be the next time we meet."
Manji (mockingly): "You really think you're going to be fine traveling through the sea with a body like that huh."
Anotsu: "Doesn't matter how many years or decades, my children and their children.... we will come back to this country. Then, we will once again threaten the strength of this country" (not really sure if that's exactly what he said)
Manji: "I don't really give a shit what this country will become in whatever years and what you want to do with it. Me and Rin, we just want to forget about you and Itto-ryu, and live on with our lives."
Then Manji raises his right arm and I could not fully understand what he said, but I think he meant that he could have killed Anotsu now, and that he'd tell Rin that he did so and threw him into the sea. I am sure though, Manji is basically letting Anotsu go.
Anotsu was silent. Then Manji says: "Do not ever show up again in front of Rin, understand? you chink-eye!"
Anotsu: "Hehe... no worries. My ordeal with the Asanos was merely a beginning of many things, it is now all in the past.... so, farewell, 100-men killer, man of immortality." Then Anotsu walks away to board.
Manji ponders a bit and realized he forgot something: "WAIT! 'farewell' my ass! you hadn't told me about the reason why you brought us here...!!"
Then Rin came and did the deed.
FLASH BACK
Rin: "What a pitiful man... you did all you could for the bakufu (government), look what you got in return."
"Remember this, when you arrive at the end of Itto-ryu, no matter how many more people you kill and how many will be killed, just remember that when you come to the conclusion of Itto-ryu, I will be there to kill you, FOR SURE."
FLASH BACK ENDS
Anotsu: "Kuku... I've forgotten what I've said... what a fool I am to think to leave my goals and ambitions to my children.... "
(quick note: one of Anotsu's best quote IMO was when Hyakurin being drunk and sat with a disguised Anotsu and they had a conversation. Anotsu said "those who left the ambition to their children are ignorant, they do not know what their capacity are to achieve things and so they leave it to their children. What can the children do? They can't walk away and they are forced to go on the path they were already given. The worst thing is, if the children too cannot finish what they're give in a life time, they will pass it down to their children. And what if they finish what was given to them? They have no dreams and ideals of their own. It's truly pitiful.")
Then he tells Manji the reason why he asked Rin and Manji to come. He basically wanted Manji to be the witness. He feels mournful that Itto-ryu did not finish what they set out to do, and he questioned whether all they have done in the last 3 years, all that's happened, "Our swords..., did we not change even just a few little things?" He pleaded to Manji to be the witness, to see whether Itto-ryu had any effect to a peaceful time such as theirs.
Manji: "I won't forget it."
Anotsu falls. Chapter ends.
This is my closest interpretation to this chapter and I think I am about 80% right. If anybody who reads Japanese is willing share, it'd be greatly appreciated!