[Discussions] (Un)Answered Questions

ZaCloud · March 01, 2009, 06:41 AM

This thread will be for any who have questions about events that have already taken place in the Tsubasa manga or anime. In other words, if something puzzles you but you've been afraid to wonder, this thread's for you!

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I started this cuz I have one of my own, though hopefully it can be of use to others as well.

Anyway... my question concerns the Ceres arc.

Spoiler

hatsuharupeace · March 01, 2009, 09:55 AM

I believe he attacked Fye because he wanted to force Ashura to reveal what he wanted from the group; which turned out to be to grant Fye's wish. Nothing malicious behind Kurogane's actions, he just wanted the truth out of Ashura.

ZaCloud · March 01, 2009, 06:14 PM

Hmmm, could be, though that does assume that Kurogane was confident that Fai would fight back rather than just accept punishment... It could work though since it seems he only meant to subdue him, at least by the end of the fight.

This one concerns the lives and memories of real Sakura and Syaoran, and the clones as well...

R!Sakura and R!Syaoran met through the boy crossing the worlds at his price and meeting her, then going back to save her. Her family was there and knew they were destined for each other.

But then... there was C!Sakura, and the fact that FWR said that real Sakura's body had dissolved since the clone was pretty much given all of her essence. Uh... so we have three Sakuras here? Which real one is "real", or is one from a different world entirely?

And then there's the fact that C!Sakura and C!Syaoran had experiences together too, the boy having been found, having a foster father, Sakura's own father explaining things about the boy that he knew such as the blindness in his eye, the circumstances under which he had been found, his lack of memories, etc. But how is this going on? Hadn't the royal family already met R!Syaoran? They didn't act like it. So did they meet C!Syaoran first and then later R!Syaoran? They didn't act like it either. Sakura's brother and the wizard still knew they were destined for each other, bla bla bla... but how could both things have happened?

Are there in fact, two Clow worlds? At which point did one of them split from the other? It would have had to be before, or when, R!Syaoran arrived. Or did I just miss something painfully obvious?

hatsuharupeace · March 01, 2009, 10:47 PM

We have three Sakura's; one who is caught in time, one who is a clone, and one who is in FWR's possession. The real Sakura is the one whom FWR took at the beginning of chapter 1, the clone is the one whom the gang were with the entirety of the series, and that leaves the Sakura trapped in time through R!Syaoran's wish.

For your second question, it's pretty complicated to say. There are quite a few possibilities, but the one which I see as the most possible is that R!Sakura and R!Syaoran were the ones that had the experiences together, but when they were cloned, those experiences were cloned as well, thus the reason for the connection between C!Sakura and C!Syaoran.

Third question. There are two Clow countries. One which is the original, and one which was created by FWR, I believe.

ShirubiaLamperouge · March 02, 2009, 02:42 AM

No, the experiences weren't cloned. We see rsyaoran at one point remembering two separate scenes of sakura's birthday, one which was when csakura gave csyaoran her birthday, and the other when rsakura discovered the two had the same birthday. Same day, different events. I think that there are three clow countries. Possibly. Like, one that was split off from time, where they were just before, the one that split off when the clones were created and placed there, and the one rsakura was originally from. Of course, it's possible that FWR was able to twist the repercussions of rsyaorans wish to distort rsakuras clow into becoming csakuras clow so that he could place her there, but I think it might be another example of when Yuko, or possibly clow, does something that seems to play right into FWRs plan. Seeing as clow reed was there himself, and I think he's the same clow as ccs clow and therefore Yuko's clow, I think that the clow that the clones are from could possibly be a cloned world itself, although that would mean that many peoples memories would need to have been altered, namely touyas, and it would just generally be very complicated.
Oh god I don't know. I'm sure Clamp has something epically paradoxical (wow that's actually a word) and confusing planned.

And just because I'm rather passionate on this point and I feel that I haven't reinforced it enough, csakura and csyaoran fell in love themselves, because they're destined for each other. Clamp rule. Except in some cases, but still. THEIR experiences.

ZaCloud · March 04, 2009, 04:18 PM

Awesome points brought up, thanks guys. (Glad it is indeed still a bit of a mystery, I thought I had just missed something obvious, I can be such a bubble-head sometimes

)

Not sure who might or might not be aware, but there's a cool factbook out that goes up to the middle of the Ceres Arc. "Tsubasa Chronicle Factbook : Mystery, Magic & Mischief" [compiled by Kazuhisa Fujie & LABAAMEN]. (sometimes without the subtitle), 18th book in the "Mysteries & Secrets Revealed!" series, published by Cocoro Books. (There might be an additional one out too, but my library's website seems to have them both confused as interchangeable)

It's not perfect; it's rife with speculation expressed as fact at times, and contains a few factual errors. But, it can offer fresh new perspectives on a few aspects of the story that one might not have thought about before, and contains a lot of intriguing theories with evidence to support them. I thought it'd be redundant, but it really has a few eye-openers that should interest anyone trying to piece together this intriguing CLAMP universe.

I recommend checking it out. If you haven't mastered the online catalog that most libraries have by now, by all means learn it so you can order manga from any library in your state.

Lady Sakura-chan · March 12, 2009, 01:24 PM

In chapter 197, Yuko said that CCS.Syaoran had paid a price to heal R.Syaoran`s wound. Do anybody know what price?

Tsubasaholic · March 14, 2009, 09:02 AM

My question is: "when was R!Sakura cloned?"

I really can't figure this one out. I don't think it was at the beginning of chapter one because C!Sakura has body memories (including playing an INSTRUMENT which is impossible to do on theory alone) and I really don't think cloning body memory is possible. This suggests that R!Sakura in the wound back time was cloned shortly after time was wound back but if this is the case then why does it look like 14yo Sakura is the one getting cloned?

Thanks for the tip about the factbook. . . I'll see if I can find it when I return to an English speaking country.

ShirubiaLamperouge · March 14, 2009, 03:22 PM

Tsubasaholic: That part at the and of Nihon seriously bugs me, because it seems to be quite blatantly saying that csakura WAS only created in chapter one. But that's impossible. A) BODY MEMORIES, and b) her "parents". Well, "parent", actually. Because csakura obviously doesn't have parents, but she believed that clow was her father. Fujitaka was someone else entirely (well, he MIGHT be significant), and Nadeshiko wasn't there at all. Csakura I assume thought that her mother was dead. So yeah.
But, what with all of time being messed with and twisted up, it could be possible that rsakura was cloned when she was 14, and then csakura was sent backwards in time. Somehow. Csakura's clow is honestly starting to feel like it wasn't even a real world (Noooo! Touya and Yukito!). That it might have just been created so that FWRs back-up sakura could reach the right time for him to send them off on their journey. I think the fact that clow was there doesn't necessarily mean that it wasn't, but that... I dunno, it might be like how Yuko is always doing things that seem to fit right into FWRs plan.
Of course, that still doesn't fit with the fact that it looks like the sakura that I am always going to believe is csakura is being cloned in chapter one. She is NOT rsakura. It makes no sense in the slightest for her to be rsakura. I really wonder if CLAMP is going to give us any more info on that point, because I think they think they've already explained it. Well, from the comments at the end of the chapter like "the enigma of tsubasa is revealed!". I swear almost nothing was revealed in that chapter except for the fact that csakura is a clone.

cari-hime · April 17, 2009, 11:30 AM

does anyone know if C!Sakura's body merged with R!Sakura's body or soul.. i'm totally confused about this

also the Sakura shown in the flashback with motherSakura.. do you think that she's the one from CCS? because i think that Syaoran's parents could be another version of the CCS from another world i'm not sure

ShirubiaLamperouge · April 19, 2009, 01:33 AM

I just put like a massive rant about this on the chapter discussion forum... And I'm getting depressed about it. Someone PLEASE prove me wrong.

ndulzky · May 05, 2009, 12:49 AM

I didn't understand what happened when the two Sakura's merge together...and then I looked back at this page...
http://www.onemanga.com/Tsubasa_Rese...nicles/215/07/

Seems like the body of the real Sakura (the little Sakura) is the body that has "capacity" for great magic...
And then the body of the big Sakura, if I'm not mistaken, is the body of the Clone!Sakura which has travelled across dimensions...
So these two bodies merge...but no soul is in it??? The soul of the Clone!Sakura is "dead"... the soul of the Real!Sakura is...sleeping? In the dream world?

My second question is about who Yuuko really is...
Fei Wong is talking about Yuuko here...
http://www.onemanga.com/Tsubasa_Rese...les/215/08-09/
Is this saying that Yuuko is one of Clow's attempt in doing what Fei Wong had tried to do with Sakura & the merging of those bodies?

Fei Wong saying he wants to restore a lost life... (whose???)...
http://www.onemanga.com/Tsubasa_Rese...nicles/202/05/

cari-hime · May 05, 2009, 09:59 PM

Quote: ndulzky View Post

Seems like the body of the real Sakura (the little Sakura) is the body that has "capacity" for great magic...
And then the body of the big Sakura, if I'm not mistaken, is the body of the Clone!Sakura which has travelled across dimensions...
So these two bodies merge...but no soul is in it??? The soul of the Clone!Sakura is "dead"... the soul of the Real!Sakura is...sleeping? In the dream world?

The big Sakura you mention is C!Sakura's body-no soul. (remember when she was killed in Nihon and brought by Kyle to Fei Wong?)
mmm, for what we find out in Ch 219, Yuko brought R!Sakura's body to the Dream World. So, her soul is actually the little one who merges with C!Sakura's body.
remember when Syaoran tried to hold her hand?? Because it would make no sense to say (Fei Wong) that the body had "dissapeared" when it was there all along, right? So, my own theory is that she was the soul (there's no other option)

as for the other Sakuras, Yuko mentions that she brought C!Sakura's soul into the Dream World before disapearing. (Ch 219) Along with R!Sakura's body, i guess, they are made another being. im just guessing. tell me what you think.

ndulzky · May 05, 2009, 11:08 PM

Oh, I see what you mean...
http://www.onemanga.com/Tsubasa_Rese...icles/219/021/
I don't know how I could stupidly missed out that Yuuko said she brought the body of C!Syaoran as well...

And for Sakura...
http://www.onemanga.com/Tsubasa_Rese...icles/219/022/
"the body that FWR originally copied them from"...so it refers to the body of R!Sakura...so you said that little Sakura must be the soul of the real Sakura (no other option)...am I understanding you correctly?

ZaCloud · June 16, 2009, 01:07 PM

This post is in reply to this fragment of discussion: http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showt...72#post1403372 since it's best suited for this thread rather than a chapter-focused thread. (Come on people! If you want the mods to be more lenient then you guys need to be more post-responsible!

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1, Already been answered; the curse was only effective for after it was applied. Except it was also a protective seal, as seen in the battle against Ashura when Kurogane was protected against a lot of injury from the enemy. Or maybe that's all it was after all, given his conversation with Tomoyo when he woke up in his world.

2, Ashura-ou wanted to be killed because he had been driven mad by his own power. He had known that someday he'd lose control, so he set Fai (Yuui) up to kill him someday. Rather than through hatred, he knew the kid had been through enough already, so he made it so it'd happen on its own once he surpassed Fai in power. That way his killing rampages could be stopped.

So, THAT curse was supposed to activate when he met someone more powerful than him in magic (Ashura the intended target), but since Fai was travelling and Sakura arranged it, he took it out on her instead. But also, the other curse was that if someone other than Fai killed Ashura, that Celes (his world) would collapse. Hence the big implosion when the battle was over. Both curses were gone after these activations.

3, Answered.

4, Answered; it'd be hard to explain without spoiling xxxHolic. Highly recommend reading that story as well, it's excellent. Manga is more recommended than the anime, since the anime doesn't cross over into Tsubasa much at all by comparison.

5-6, Answered.

7, You did a good job yourself of figuring out what's what about the feathers in your post after that. They're still certainly significant; they were putting C!Sakura back together as a person. She wouldn't be who she became, had it not been for them, and her memories, being returned to her. The journey itself was also important for all the characters and their growth.

8, We'll seeeeeeee...

March 01, 2009, 06:41 AM	#1
ZaCloud 中級員 / Chuukyuuin / Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: In an air-tight plastic bag Age: 26 Gender: Posts: 138 Country:	[Discussions] (Un)Answered Questions This thread will be for any who have questions about events that have already taken place in the Tsubasa manga or anime. In other words, if something puzzles you but you've been afraid to wonder, this thread's for you! --------------------------------------------------------- I started this cuz I have one of my own, though hopefully it can be of use to others as well. Anyway... my question concerns the Ceres arc. Spoiler After Syaoran and Kurogane were exposed to Fai's memories... Why the heck did Kurogane attack Fai? I mean... I know he was of course ticked off that Fai was, in a way, working for the enemy Fei Wong... But, surely he'd seen that this was a long-tormented child who couldn't be held responsible for such a decision and made the choice out of desperation. I'm surprised he wouldn't understand the emotional basis of the choice, and that it wasn't that Fai was trying to be a bad guy... Am I missing something there? It's just bothered me from the moment I witnessed the action until this very day. __________________ Hyuu Hyuuuu~!

March 01, 2009, 09:55 AM	#2
hatsuharupeace Scanlator MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cow Land Gender: Posts: 6,404 Gallery: 33 Country:	Re: (Un)Answered Questions I believe he attacked Fye because he wanted to force Ashura to reveal what he wanted from the group; which turned out to be to grant Fye's wish. Nothing malicious behind Kurogane's actions, he just wanted the truth out of Ashura. __________________ Join hatsu in his quest for Innovator-ship! \|\| SlipStream Anime \|\| CLAMP Manga Forum

March 01, 2009, 06:14 PM	#3
ZaCloud 中級員 / Chuukyuuin / Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: In an air-tight plastic bag Age: 26 Gender: Posts: 138 Country:	Re: (Un)Answered Questions Hmmm, could be, though that does assume that Kurogane was confident that Fai would fight back rather than just accept punishment... It could work though since it seems he only meant to subdue him, at least by the end of the fight. This one concerns the lives and memories of real Sakura and Syaoran, and the clones as well... R!Sakura and R!Syaoran met through the boy crossing the worlds at his price and meeting her, then going back to save her. Her family was there and knew they were destined for each other. But then... there was C!Sakura, and the fact that FWR said that real Sakura's body had dissolved since the clone was pretty much given all of her essence. Uh... so we have three Sakuras here? Which real one is "real", or is one from a different world entirely? And then there's the fact that C!Sakura and C!Syaoran had experiences together too, the boy having been found, having a foster father, Sakura's own father explaining things about the boy that he knew such as the blindness in his eye, the circumstances under which he had been found, his lack of memories, etc. But how is this going on? Hadn't the royal family already met R!Syaoran? They didn't act like it. So did they meet C!Syaoran first and then later R!Syaoran? They didn't act like it either. Sakura's brother and the wizard still knew they were destined for each other, bla bla bla... but how could both things have happened? Are there in fact, two Clow worlds? At which point did one of them split from the other? It would have had to be before, or when, R!Syaoran arrived. Or did I just miss something painfully obvious? __________________ Hyuu Hyuuuu~!

March 01, 2009, 10:47 PM	#4
hatsuharupeace Scanlator MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cow Land Gender: Posts: 6,404 Gallery: 33 Country:	Re: (Un)Answered Questions We have three Sakura's; one who is caught in time, one who is a clone, and one who is in FWR's possession. The real Sakura is the one whom FWR took at the beginning of chapter 1, the clone is the one whom the gang were with the entirety of the series, and that leaves the Sakura trapped in time through R!Syaoran's wish. For your second question, it's pretty complicated to say. There are quite a few possibilities, but the one which I see as the most possible is that R!Sakura and R!Syaoran were the ones that had the experiences together, but when they were cloned, those experiences were cloned as well, thus the reason for the connection between C!Sakura and C!Syaoran. Third question. There are two Clow countries. One which is the original, and one which was created by FWR, I believe. __________________ Join hatsu in his quest for Innovator-ship! \|\| SlipStream Anime \|\| CLAMP Manga Forum

March 02, 2009, 02:42 AM	#5
ShirubiaLamperouge 上級員 / Jyoukuuin / Sr. Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Rm 33 (sorry lulu, I've found a new love) Age: 15 Gender: Posts: 378 Gallery: 1 Country:	Re: (Un)Answered Questions No, the experiences weren't cloned. We see rsyaoran at one point remembering two separate scenes of sakura's birthday, one which was when csakura gave csyaoran her birthday, and the other when rsakura discovered the two had the same birthday. Same day, different events. I think that there are three clow countries. Possibly. Like, one that was split off from time, where they were just before, the one that split off when the clones were created and placed there, and the one rsakura was originally from. Of course, it's possible that FWR was able to twist the repercussions of rsyaorans wish to distort rsakuras clow into becoming csakuras clow so that he could place her there, but I think it might be another example of when Yuko, or possibly clow, does something that seems to play right into FWRs plan. Seeing as clow reed was there himself, and I think he's the same clow as ccs clow and therefore Yuko's clow, I think that the clow that the clones are from could possibly be a cloned world itself, although that would mean that many peoples memories would need to have been altered, namely touyas, and it would just generally be very complicated. Oh god I don't know. I'm sure Clamp has something epically paradoxical (wow that's actually a word) and confusing planned. And just because I'm rather passionate on this point and I feel that I haven't reinforced it enough, csakura and csyaoran fell in love themselves, because they're destined for each other. Clamp rule. Except in some cases, but still. THEIR experiences. __________________ RIP Mopsy, my adorable, psychotic, half blind and overall quite epically seishirou-esque rabbit. Last edited by ShirubiaLamperouge : March 02, 2009 at 02:45 AM.

March 04, 2009, 04:18 PM	#6
ZaCloud 中級員 / Chuukyuuin / Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: In an air-tight plastic bag Age: 26 Gender: Posts: 138 Country:	Re: (Un)Answered Questions Awesome points brought up, thanks guys. (Glad it is indeed still a bit of a mystery, I thought I had just missed something obvious, I can be such a bubble-head sometimes ) Not sure who might or might not be aware, but there's a cool factbook out that goes up to the middle of the Ceres Arc. "Tsubasa Chronicle Factbook : Mystery, Magic & Mischief" [compiled by Kazuhisa Fujie & LABAAMEN]. (sometimes without the subtitle), 18th book in the "Mysteries & Secrets Revealed!" series, published by Cocoro Books. (There might be an additional one out too, but my library's website seems to have them both confused as interchangeable) It's not perfect; it's rife with speculation expressed as fact at times, and contains a few factual errors. But, it can offer fresh new perspectives on a few aspects of the story that one might not have thought about before, and contains a lot of intriguing theories with evidence to support them. I thought it'd be redundant, but it really has a few eye-openers that should interest anyone trying to piece together this intriguing CLAMP universe. I recommend checking it out. If you haven't mastered the online catalog that most libraries have by now, by all means learn it so you can order manga from any library in your state. __________________ Hyuu Hyuuuu~! Last edited by ZaCloud : March 04, 2009 at 04:23 PM.

March 12, 2009, 01:24 PM	#7
Lady Sakura-chan 中級員 / Chuukyuuin / Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ER hospital Age: 16 Gender: Posts: 194 Country:	Re: (Un)Answered Questions In chapter 197, Yuko said that CCS.Syaoran had paid a price to heal R.Syaoran`s wound. Do anybody know what price? __________________ Tsubasa-supporters of the world unite!!!

March 14, 2009, 09:02 AM	#8
Tsubasaholic 上級員 / Jyoukuuin / Sr. Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: The Pernicious Poem Place Age: 18 Gender: Posts: 385 Country:	Re: (Un)Answered Questions My question is: "when was R!Sakura cloned?" I really can't figure this one out. I don't think it was at the beginning of chapter one because C!Sakura has body memories (including playing an INSTRUMENT which is impossible to do on theory alone) and I really don't think cloning body memory is possible. This suggests that R!Sakura in the wound back time was cloned shortly after time was wound back but if this is the case then why does it look like 14yo Sakura is the one getting cloned? Thanks for the tip about the factbook. . . I'll see if I can find it when I return to an English speaking country. __________________ Welcome to the NEW WORLD God save you if it is right that he should do so tcha

March 14, 2009, 03:22 PM	#9
ShirubiaLamperouge 上級員 / Jyoukuuin / Sr. Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Rm 33 (sorry lulu, I've found a new love) Age: 15 Gender: Posts: 378 Gallery: 1 Country:	Re: (Un)Answered Questions Tsubasaholic: That part at the and of Nihon seriously bugs me, because it seems to be quite blatantly saying that csakura WAS only created in chapter one. But that's impossible. A) BODY MEMORIES, and b) her "parents". Well, "parent", actually. Because csakura obviously doesn't have parents, but she believed that clow was her father. Fujitaka was someone else entirely (well, he MIGHT be significant), and Nadeshiko wasn't there at all. Csakura I assume thought that her mother was dead. So yeah. But, what with all of time being messed with and twisted up, it could be possible that rsakura was cloned when she was 14, and then csakura was sent backwards in time. Somehow. Csakura's clow is honestly starting to feel like it wasn't even a real world (Noooo! Touya and Yukito!). That it might have just been created so that FWRs back-up sakura could reach the right time for him to send them off on their journey. I think the fact that clow was there doesn't necessarily mean that it wasn't, but that... I dunno, it might be like how Yuko is always doing things that seem to fit right into FWRs plan. Of course, that still doesn't fit with the fact that it looks like the sakura that I am always going to believe is csakura is being cloned in chapter one. She is NOT rsakura. It makes no sense in the slightest for her to be rsakura. I really wonder if CLAMP is going to give us any more info on that point, because I think they think they've already explained it. Well, from the comments at the end of the chapter like "the enigma of tsubasa is revealed!". I swear almost nothing was revealed in that chapter except for the fact that csakura is a clone. __________________ RIP Mopsy, my adorable, psychotic, half blind and overall quite epically seishirou-esque rabbit.

April 17, 2009, 11:30 AM	#10
cari-hime 初心者/ Shoshinsha / Beginner Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: cuenca ecuador Age: 19 Gender: Posts: 35 Country:	Re: (Un)Answered Questions does anyone know if C!Sakura's body merged with R!Sakura's body or soul.. i'm totally confused about this also the Sakura shown in the flashback with motherSakura.. do you think that she's the one from CCS? because i think that Syaoran's parents could be another version of the CCS from another world i'm not sure __________________ CaRi RoDas those who know the world know it's not just ONE... --♥ a cRaZy DiaMonD♣ ♥❀la chik anime x 100pre!!!❀• Tsubasa Wiki! Feel free to join

April 19, 2009, 01:33 AM	#11
ShirubiaLamperouge 上級員 / Jyoukuuin / Sr. Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Rm 33 (sorry lulu, I've found a new love) Age: 15 Gender: Posts: 378 Gallery: 1 Country:	Re: (Un)Answered Questions I just put like a massive rant about this on the chapter discussion forum... And I'm getting depressed about it. Someone PLEASE prove me wrong. __________________ RIP Mopsy, my adorable, psychotic, half blind and overall quite epically seishirou-esque rabbit.

May 05, 2009, 12:49 AM	#12
ndulzky 初心者/ Shoshinsha / Beginner Join Date: Mar 2009 Age: 23 Gender: Posts: 28 Country:	Re: (Un)Answered Questions I didn't understand what happened when the two Sakura's merge together...and then I looked back at this page... http://www.onemanga.com/Tsubasa_Rese...nicles/215/07/ Seems like the body of the real Sakura (the little Sakura) is the body that has "capacity" for great magic... And then the body of the big Sakura, if I'm not mistaken, is the body of the Clone!Sakura which has travelled across dimensions... So these two bodies merge...but no soul is in it??? The soul of the Clone!Sakura is "dead"... the soul of the Real!Sakura is...sleeping? In the dream world? My second question is about who Yuuko really is... Fei Wong is talking about Yuuko here... http://www.onemanga.com/Tsubasa_Rese...les/215/08-09/ Is this saying that Yuuko is one of Clow's attempt in doing what Fei Wong had tried to do with Sakura & the merging of those bodies? Fei Wong saying he wants to restore a lost life... (whose???)... http://www.onemanga.com/Tsubasa_Rese...nicles/202/05/

May 05, 2009, 09:59 PM	#13
cari-hime 初心者/ Shoshinsha / Beginner Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: cuenca ecuador Age: 19 Gender: Posts: 35 Country:	Re: (Un)Answered Questions Quote: ndulzky Seems like the body of the real Sakura (the little Sakura) is the body that has "capacity" for great magic... And then the body of the big Sakura, if I'm not mistaken, is the body of the Clone!Sakura which has travelled across dimensions... So these two bodies merge...but no soul is in it??? The soul of the Clone!Sakura is "dead"... the soul of the Real!Sakura is...sleeping? In the dream world? The big Sakura you mention is C!Sakura's body-no soul. (remember when she was killed in Nihon and brought by Kyle to Fei Wong?) mmm, for what we find out in Ch 219, Yuko brought R!Sakura's body to the Dream World. So, her soul is actually the little one who merges with C!Sakura's body. remember when Syaoran tried to hold her hand?? Because it would make no sense to say (Fei Wong) that the body had "dissapeared" when it was there all along, right? So, my own theory is that she was the soul (there's no other option) as for the other Sakuras, Yuko mentions that she brought C!Sakura's soul into the Dream World before disapearing. (Ch 219) Along with R!Sakura's body, i guess, they are made another being. im just guessing. tell me what you think. __________________ CaRi RoDas those who know the world know it's not just ONE... --♥ a cRaZy DiaMonD♣ ♥❀la chik anime x 100pre!!!❀• Tsubasa Wiki! Feel free to join Last edited by cari-hime : May 05, 2009 at 10:02 PM.

May 05, 2009, 11:08 PM	#14
ndulzky 初心者/ Shoshinsha / Beginner Join Date: Mar 2009 Age: 23 Gender: Posts: 28 Country:	Re: (Un)Answered Questions Oh, I see what you mean... http://www.onemanga.com/Tsubasa_Rese...icles/219/021/ I don't know how I could stupidly missed out that Yuuko said she brought the body of C!Syaoran as well... And for Sakura... http://www.onemanga.com/Tsubasa_Rese...icles/219/022/ "the body that FWR originally copied them from"...so it refers to the body of R!Sakura...so you said that little Sakura must be the soul of the real Sakura (no other option)...am I understanding you correctly?

June 16, 2009, 01:07 PM	#15
ZaCloud 中級員 / Chuukyuuin / Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: In an air-tight plastic bag Age: 26 Gender: Posts: 138 Country:	Re: (Un)Answered Questions This post is in reply to this fragment of discussion: http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showt...72#post1403372 since it's best suited for this thread rather than a chapter-focused thread. (Come on people! If you want the mods to be more lenient then you guys need to be more post-responsible! ) 1, Already been answered; the curse was only effective for after it was applied. Except it was also a protective seal, as seen in the battle against Ashura when Kurogane was protected against a lot of injury from the enemy. Or maybe that's all it was after all, given his conversation with Tomoyo when he woke up in his world. 2, Ashura-ou wanted to be killed because he had been driven mad by his own power. He had known that someday he'd lose control, so he set Fai (Yuui) up to kill him someday. Rather than through hatred, he knew the kid had been through enough already, so he made it so it'd happen on its own once he surpassed Fai in power. That way his killing rampages could be stopped. So, THAT curse was supposed to activate when he met someone more powerful than him in magic (Ashura the intended target), but since Fai was travelling and Sakura arranged it, he took it out on her instead. But also, the other curse was that if someone other than Fai killed Ashura, that Celes (his world) would collapse. Hence the big implosion when the battle was over. Both curses were gone after these activations. 3, Answered. 4, Answered; it'd be hard to explain without spoiling xxxHolic. Highly recommend reading that story as well, it's excellent. Manga is more recommended than the anime, since the anime doesn't cross over into Tsubasa much at all by comparison. 5-6, Answered. 7, You did a good job yourself of figuring out what's what about the feathers in your post after that. They're still certainly significant; they were putting C!Sakura back together as a person. She wouldn't be who she became, had it not been for them, and her memories, being returned to her. The journey itself was also important for all the characters and their growth. 8, We'll seeeeeeee... __________________ Hyuu Hyuuuu~! Last edited by ZaCloud : June 16, 2009 at 01:12 PM.