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Updates on Uploading Rules

+ posted by bax in Site News on Jun 3, 2009 13:38



Hello everyone.

This news post announcement is regarding the upload rules at MH. Basically, an updated version of the previous announcement made HERE.

We're updating the rules to cover up some previous loopholes that needed to be taken care of. Sorry for any inconveniences.

Quote:

Basically, every releases now must meet the following criteria:

1. Has to provide a non-profit download resource, online viewing is not considered one
2. Must be accessible to the public without the need for registration.
3. Needs to be accessible in a user-friendly way.


For more clarification on the previous rules, please read the previous (announcement).

Now for the additions:

Online viewing is not considered a "DDL" (Direct Download)
It seems we weren't clear enough on this one. Web based online viewing or any other reading method that does not have an option to transfer the entire archive of the release to your local PC from the server is not considered a download source.

So from now on, please supply the readers with a an alternative download source to your online viewing method. Online viewing is simply considered an extra benefit to your release.

What is a non-profit download resource
It is a download source which doesn't enable monetary gain either by the download-provider itself or via third party services such as cash click services.

So supply alternative links to non-profit source(s) for the readers to choose from for your releases. We understand the need to have a monetary source to buy the related items (magazines, tanks, books, etc), so if you need to have such links as a way to earn money, clearly advertise what the link is and make sure there's a clear non-profit option available along with it. This allows the readers to choose whether to use such links or not.

Donations must be a choice for the readers, not forced.

Torrents and IRC
These transfer protocols are acceptable alternatives like usual as long as they are not abused to get around the rules. If it's a torrent, it must work at all times (and not die). If it's IRC, please try to help the readers understand how to get the file. Some do not use IRC, but want to read your release. As a fan, do your best to help them.

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These amendments are to take place effective immediately. The two other points were already explained in the previous announcement.
Link: http://mangahelpers.com/news/details/143

Thank you.


//edit
Hi everyone, eni here. Additionally to the above rule change, I would like to inform you that we added a 'Korean-raw' (한국어 RAW) and 'Chinese-raw' (中文 RAW) language filter.

In case that you want to upload a manhwa or manhua raw, please don't choose the normal Korean/Chinese language (or worse: the Japanese raw) anymore which is supposed to be for translation INTO one of these languages only. Use the new Korean/Chinese RAW filter for the native language uploads:

Naruto (translated into Korean) -> upload to '한국어'
Majeh - King of Hell (native Korean) -> upload to '한국어 RAW'


Sadly, these won't appear as raws but as scanlations for the time being. It's a temporary solution until our system is capable to handle more than one raw language. This isn't an easy fix and will take a while.

A lot of native Korean/Chinese series were already uploaded wrong, particularly as Japanese raws. If you come across one which is in the wrong language filter, please report it to us. Thank you for understanding :)
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#1. by Crayola (Scanlator)
Posted on Jun 4, 2009
so many rules, sounds like hard work, though it doesn't affect me
#2. by eni (MH's Socialworker)
Posted on Jun 4, 2009
Not really many rules, Crayola.

Just a simple basic rule for any uploads:
Keep it free and easily accessible for everyone.

What the above three points do is only specify what we mean by this. No forced and hidden donations, no forced membership to access the downloads and no clicking through a link labyrinth. That's basically all. The rest are details.
#3. by night_wolf (Scanlator)
Posted on Jun 4, 2009
ok, im using Megapuload and rapidshare. is it alright?
#4. by Doragon (Scanlator)
Posted on Jun 4, 2009
I guess that both of those is alright, but I suggest using mediafire because it only requires one click to download and what's more is that you don't need to wait.

EDIT: The Chinese/Korean filter was a great idea. Thanks, can't wait for it to be fixed~
#5. by Insomniatic_Critic (初心者/ Shoshinsha / Beginner)
Posted on Jun 4, 2009
Obviously not. Did you not read the 'non-profit' part?

Just include a SS or MF link in addition to whatever you normally do. It makes it easier for everyone.
#6. by fxu (Scanlator)
Posted on Jun 4, 2009
Megaupload let's you exchange points for cash, so that's a profit link.

Rapidshare, you can't do such a thing, so it's ok.
#7. by Amit (Proofreaders)
Posted on Jun 4, 2009
But most of us hate RS. D=

Personally, I just use SkipScreen(Add on for Firefox) to get rid of those pesky wait times and stuff on sites like MU. :S

#8. by Rock-Bird (Scanlator)
Posted on Jun 4, 2009
I think from this we can only benefit, it’s all about easily accessible releases as mentioned by eni.

Sometimes it's really like the people don't want you to download their releases, you need to click through various stuff, you don't know where to dl, it’s all just confusing, and I never understood why that is...

Also let me add, that you shouldn't forget about MH's DDL service offer. You can free and easily use it (also in case you don't know whether other services do agree with these terms or not, their own one will definitive) ;)




#9. by zidane (Global Moderator)
Posted on Jun 4, 2009
Nice move...
#10. by Cooper (中級員 / Chuukyuuin / Member)
Posted on Jun 4, 2009
Finally.
It looks to me that lately some scanlators scanlate only to make money.
#11. by reinen (下級員 / Kakyuuin / Jr. Member)
Posted on Jun 4, 2009
So...no MegaUpload then? I guess I have to replace it with something else...
#12. by kuropon (初心者/ Shoshinsha / Beginner)
Posted on Jun 5, 2009
I'm confused... When I add a release, there used to be a place where I could put a link to a DDL, now there is only a [BROWSE] button, which forces me to upload the file to the site. I used to just put up the DDL link from our download server and didn't bother with the online reading stuff, but about 3 weeks ago, it became the only option. Where are we supposed to be putting these DDL links now? In the comment section of the releases?
#13. by Rena Chan (Scanlator)
Posted on Jun 5, 2009
@reinen - The MegaUpload links that give premium points is only for paid accounts. I have a MU paid account, but not because of that. I have it because I use MU to host my raws a lot and it's so that my files won't get deleted, I have a lot of space to store my files and I can also take advantage of the URL/FTP file fetching which will help me get my raws up much faster. The premium points is just a bonus and I use it only to extend my MU subscription ^_^
#14. by zidane (Global Moderator)
Posted on Jun 5, 2009
kuropon, you should look at the blue-ish (?) buttons at the bottom when you submit smth... the option got kinda hidden but it's still available under advanced options when uploading a release.
#15. by wounded (初心者/ Shoshinsha / Beginner)
Posted on Jun 5, 2009
One small problem... the only one which got decent upload speed in my area is RS (and stable download speed).
MF got truly horrible at times.

So for the sake clarification, is allowing RS in this thread : "http://mangahelpers.com/news/details/143" is still valid ?

PS : RS only gives premium points that CAN't be exchange into money, only usable to extend an account or merchandises. Or you could take the lottery.
#16. by c_k (MangaHelper)
Posted on Jun 5, 2009
In case someone finds someone/a group is not complying with the rules, you can report any release. On the right side of any release there's a "Report a Release" box below the "Quick Browse Manga" box - just click the "+" and it'll open up a box. Just type in what's wrong with the release, click 'send' and we'll be notified about the report.

@ Wounded: Rapidshare is allowable under the rules because it is non-profit.
#17. by kuropon (初心者/ Shoshinsha / Beginner)
Posted on Jun 5, 2009
Doh... Somehow I completely missed the "Show/Hide more options" one, I only ever noticed the "Show/Hide advanced options" one... >.<;;
#18. by fli_guy84 (初心者/ Shoshinsha / Beginner)
Posted on Jun 5, 2009
This is great, people should not make money out of scanlations.
#19. by Rena Chan (Scanlator)
Posted on Jun 5, 2009
No, that's not it. The point is people should be given the choice of not giving money to the group. I have nothing against donations for the group to help cover things like server costs or costs to buy the manga to scan and things like that which is related to the group. The problem is if they're being forced into doing it.
#20. by Dark-san (Translator/Moderator)
Posted on Jun 5, 2009
I don't know about the rest but I usually encourage the public to get our releases through IRC. Firstly, it easier that way caused we can interacted with them directly. Secondly, we can figured out the popularity of the series that we picked up on the first hand. And finally, it gives us a chance to recruit these people into our team. So obviously with this factors, IRC is the best download medium for all scanlators. =) As for DDLs, my group uses megauploads. It is not my choice but I believe Rena has pretty much explain all there is to megauploads.

As for the donations portion, I don't believe in using monetary benefits to motivate myself into translating my favourite series. If the public wants to help the group out, they do not have to pay any cash, just join the group and contribute as either a translator or an editor. =)
#21. by reinen (下級員 / Kakyuuin / Jr. Member)
Posted on Jun 5, 2009
A question: Did MH excluded the Online Viewer for good?

I'm adding a release and in point 1, it says.."Online viewing is excluded (see HERE)".
And there's this Quality option, It never show up until now... o_O
#22. by bax (伝説メンバー / Densetsu / Legendary Member)
Posted on Jun 5, 2009
@ Reinen

Online viewing is not considered a download. Well technically you're still downloading data from the server, but download here carries the meaning of getting the archive into your local PC. Online viewing is (and always is) acceptable, but not counted as a "download".

Example:
Quote:

Rapidshare + Online viewing --> yes, because it offers a download option
Online viewing only --> no, because there's no download option


By quality option, I take it you mean the LQ/MQ/HQ stuffs? MH no longer support that for scanlations. That option only available for raws.
#23. by reinen (下級員 / Kakyuuin / Jr. Member)
Posted on Jun 5, 2009
Thanks bax! I get it now. And the quality option is for raw only, got it.
#24. by Nadim (中級員 / Chuukyuuin / Member)
Posted on Jul 5, 2009
you need to have a scanlation group if you want to tag as chinese raw or korean raw!!!
#25. by rawmanga (初心者/ Shoshinsha / Beginner)
Posted on Jul 21, 2009
stupid rules ! isn't it
"Has to provide a non-profit download resource"
then why you guys holding Summer Art Contest and providing rewards
in your way , no one should participate in for rewards




#26. by bilalalarifi (初心者/ Shoshinsha / Beginner)
Posted on Aug 14, 2009
so many rules, sounds like hard work:
this sound good

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