View Full Version : TRC 150 several pages w/ some questions

May 02, 2007, 07:31 AM
first for some explanations:
I did the pages two weeks ago with the objective to attain as much detail and quality for a less time. I did them just for practice - that's why I didn't crop them appropriately. Then I waited for a MQ or HQ release to compare and to answer my questions on how to enhance them further. But the only release for this chapter was a LQ/MQ scan (even if I personally wouldn't rate it MQ at all, but then again who am I to rate scans ;) )... so my quest for knowledge remained unfulfilled >.<

Obviously I'm not going to work on them any more - I'm not going to make a scanlation so the first thing I'd request is
1) to rate them as they are now -> one-by-one (if there are differencies) or overall ^^

and some questions:
2) I spent up to 10 minutes per page while trying not to damage the lines (overleveling) and cleaning some dust from the whites... and I think what's left is blackening the blacks - but apart from some obvious places like the SFX, Faye's back or Yuko's dress and Mokona's face/body that need to be completely black - there are many places with gradients or textures/patterns that are hard to tell to what extent need to be blackened - and the decision what is dust and what is intentionaly left dusty/whitey is the hardest - any advice here? (and I'm not talking about the white splotches that obviously need to stay white)

and finally
3) I used an effect to soften the overall look of the pages - is this effect obvious - should I decrease it (i.e. is it damaging some of the detail) or is it good the way it's applied - I use the effect because it gives a better overall look for the grays

http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11662 - the R/T/S thread for this chapter - I used the (MQ rated) RAW provided by kairak

and the raw/cleans ^_^

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Vato Loco!
May 07, 2007, 07:30 PM
I would rate them LQ-Low MQ because I believe in order to have a solid MQ scan three things need to be done: Whites need to be roughly cleaned (most noticeable dust is removed), blacks are fully filled in, and borders are done. The blacks are probably gonna be your biggest problem in TRC. And really, the only way to learn to distinguish gradient fades where they start or stop is experience. It's something that comes with time, and with training your eyes. It's probably why TRC is one of the harder manga to clean. As for the effect, it makes the page look somewhat blurry.