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saladesu
April 10, 2011, 05:25 AM
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takarita
April 16, 2011, 11:01 PM
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LoS
April 16, 2011, 11:23 PM
BLUENOTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe


freaking


Stinger



damn, he takes out an entire area with just one hand



And ugh, freaking Cana. You know this is going to be a frustrating chapter. Of course Lucy's completely crackbrained theory/idea turned out to be correct and Cana arrived at the gravestone. Just get her annoying storyline over with, please I beg you!!!!

MonsterEnvy
April 16, 2011, 11:35 PM
BLUENOTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe


freaking


Stinger



damn, he takes out an entire area with just one hand



And ugh, freaking Cana. You know this is going to be a frustrating chapter. Of course Lucy's completely crackbrained theory/idea turned out to be correct and Cana arrived at the gravestone. Just get her annoying storyline over with, please I beg you!!!!

I can guess what his magic is its Gravaity

Gravaity always has that effect in Manga and shows and its almost always one of the most strongest powers

LoS
April 16, 2011, 11:44 PM
We get to see his tattoo better on that double page.

He's also a heck of a lot older, and uglier than I pictured him to be.

That is one really thick braid he has on the back of his head as well.

Ero-Sanji
April 16, 2011, 11:57 PM
I didn't get that impressed with Bluenot, to be honest. He reminds me too much of Zero and, yes, it seems like his powers is gravity and we now know that he was the one behind the sinking ship, as some where in doubt.

Cana just found the grave, and it's glowing... Boring, it's not fun anymore thinking of that it's not even the last quest and by the fact that no one is interested at it for the moment.

Also, Lucy's new clothes are going to get ripped apart.

MonsterEnvy
April 17, 2011, 12:04 AM
I didn't get that impressed with Bluenot, to be honest. He reminds me too much of Zero and, yes, it seems like his powers is gravity and we now know that he was the one behind the sinking ship, as some where in doubt.

Cana just found the grave, and it's glowing... Boring, it's not fun anymore thinking of that it's not even the last quest and by the fact that no one is interested at it for the moment.

Also, Lucy's new clothes are going to get ripped apart.

he does not look like Zero at all to me and we have to see more of him then one page before you say your not impressed with him

LoS
April 17, 2011, 12:11 AM
It will be hilarious when Cana is all like "yay, I found the grave first, I won" and then she realizes there are huge explosions going off all around here all over the island, and then she is all terrified.

Too bad an explosion can't hit her location and lock her in that passage.

MonsterEnvy
April 17, 2011, 12:18 AM
It will be hilarious when Cana is all like "yay, I found the grave first, I won" and then she realizes there are huge explosions going off all around here all over the island, and then she is all terrified.

Too bad an explosion can't hit her location and lock her in that passage.

Cana is a good mage her cards have a large ammont of effects that are useful and she is smart and I like her but she needs to get something through her head

the exam is over it ended the second Grimorie Heart showed up

ShoobyDooBop
April 17, 2011, 12:28 AM
Lucy changing clothes is total mind blow. And I agree with Los. Get her annoying storyline over with. I don't give a damn in it.

I didn't expect Bluenote's face to be like that. I imagined a bit more younger.

kkck
April 17, 2011, 12:30 AM
Bluenote's tattoo looks an aweful lot like fairy tail's. Perhaps a member of raven tail? I guess he quite literally went out when the 4th grimmoire heart member fell. Wonder who he is using his magic against though... I want him to fight gildarts though, I doubt any of the kids has a chance except for luxus (assuming he gets there).

saya1987
April 17, 2011, 12:52 AM
BLUE NOTE LOOKS LIKE A REPTILE. Bleh, he looks funny to me, not scary at all.


and lucy's new outfit looks gorgeous :D hope it doesn't ripped up...it's toooo pretty!

LoS
April 17, 2011, 12:53 AM
Well, he did simply just lift his arm and flatten Natsu and everyone else.

Kuzumikun
April 17, 2011, 01:23 AM
hmm i see a cat ear on the bottom left so bluenote attacks natsu and them?
what does cana want???? im soooo curious! sigh maybe she knows bluenote? i dunno :C i can't wait for the chapter

shuha27
April 17, 2011, 01:28 AM
Wow Bluenote is ugly...LOL

Can't wait for the chapter. I hope they reveal what Cana wants in this chapter. Hopefully Natsu doesn't take down Bluenote >.<

Sollum
April 17, 2011, 01:40 AM
I saw that attack and i was like "Gra-vi-ton rai-ful!" (quote from SRW series >.>).

Blue note rocks, he looks like a good villain to me.

Natsu's face is priceless.

As always, more p**n from Lucy.

Cana must die! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTw2YvutJRA
By the way, i was thinking that maybe whoever finds that grave, might learn Fairy Law. Maybe Laxus learned in the same way.

LoS
April 17, 2011, 02:00 AM
By the way, i was thinking that maybe whoever finds that grave, might learn Fairy Law. Maybe Laxus learned in the same way.

I can tell you didn't think this one out too thoroughly. You are supposing that all S-class mages who obviously pass are given the same task of finding the grave? What about those S-class we have seen who didn't know Fairy Law? I'm not picking on you, just that the idea has a few huge holes in it.

llamapie
April 17, 2011, 02:41 AM
Gosh Mashima teasing us all again.

So mean.

Well I think crap is gonna go way bad for FT now. The only saving grace is if someone of Bluenots level shows up. I just hope someone dies.

saya1987
April 17, 2011, 02:41 AM
no, i dont think they are going to reveal about cana in this chapter because it seems that the glowing tomb is on the last page. Hopefully, hiro will tell us everything related to cana or the tomb in the next chapter and not drag it over so many chapters.

Sigh, if this is so, hiro wasted two pages of manga. The first one was cana staring at smth in one of the previous chapters. Now, another page is wasted at her staring at a glowing tomb.

wooticus
April 17, 2011, 02:47 AM
bluenote indeed looks insanely strong.

it's a bit off topic, but one thing just came to my mind.. why did GH have to follow FT to their secret island? after all hades is the former leader of FT, he should know where to find the island! they could have go there and take zeref with no resistance at all? i wonder if this is going to be explained or if it remains as a plothole

ghostexiled
April 17, 2011, 03:11 AM
^I don't see any plothole at all.

It could be just a matter of coincidence that GH showed up at the island shortly after FT.

GH has been out doing missions required to be done in order to bring Zeref back, so there is your reason GH didn't just simply go to the island beforehand.

If you simply go back to when Makrov took on the ship, Hades and crew seemed a bit shocked at the fact that Makrov was there.

Back on topic, looks like Bluenote is going to be a beast that has the ability to crush FT with little effort.

I still think Cana wanted to see the grave for a reason other than the exam.

Sollum
April 17, 2011, 03:36 AM
I can tell you didn't think this one out too thoroughly. You are supposing that all S-class mages who obviously pass are given the same task of finding the grave? What about those S-class we have seen who didn't know Fairy Law? I'm not picking on you, just that the idea has a few huge holes in it.

Actually i did. Mest claimed that each year tasks change. So maybe when Erza was doing the exam, task was different?

It's like Kinder Surprise :D Each year, different surprise :D


Maybe Fairy Law is written on back of tombstone or something. And yeah, that would kinda redeem Cana in some way, if she was looking for that...

Ero-Sanji
April 17, 2011, 03:39 AM
he does not look like Zero at all to me and we have to see more of him then one page before you say your not impressed with him

It's called first impression, when Zero got introduced he had a similar pose and he also crushed everything around him until Natsu got his power up. That's why such an entrance doesn't impress me.



I still think Cana wanted to see the grave for a reason other than the exam.

I don't really think so, I mean why else participate four(?) times if it's not occurring on this special island? I'm guessing the only thing she wants is status and perhaps Bluenote is the one she wants to meet.

ghostexiled
April 17, 2011, 03:43 AM
Maybe Fairy Law is written on back of tombstone or something. And yeah, that would kinda redeem Cana in some way, if she was looking for that...
How is this any different than what I am stating about the grave? :p

@Erosanji - well... I have stated this before...

The grave could be what she is after even though the exam happens in different locations.

The island may only be accessible to S-ranks and higher. So no matter where she becomes a S-class mage, she would be able to visit the grave one way or another.

Of course this is all my theory. :)

ca12nag3
April 17, 2011, 04:13 AM
Possible she is related to the first FT guildmaster? Just a longshot. Cana is so obsessed with this i can hardly believe the grave finding is a coincidence.
I dont see anyone shes close to except for Macao perhaps but he doesnt need her to be S-Class.
Its more like she wants to show her *lineage* that shes a worthy successor to the bloodline? (More like that)

LoS
April 17, 2011, 04:38 AM
The fact is, her prattling around and continually bitching and moping about going on and on about becoming an S-class mage in order to meet "that person" is not redeemable by merely seeing a grave.

For Mashima to make this in any sense remotely interesting and make up for all the horrible pages of Cana the past 30 chapters it is going to have to be something monumental, as in will flat out alter the entire scope of the Fairy Tail verse storyline. And I seriously doubt it will be anything so special, so I am afraid it will turn out to be a colossal let down.

The Fairy Law talk is pretty rubbish. The girl doesn't even have the strength to invoke the spell, but of course Mashima would pull that power out of her ass and make her capable of doing just that.

sarutobi_sensei
April 17, 2011, 07:02 AM
F**k Cana, I was more interested in knowing what Ultear was going to say to Gray.

Ero-Sanji
April 17, 2011, 07:30 AM
@Erosanji - well... I have stated this before...

The grave could be what she is after even though the exam happens in different locations.

The island may only be accessible to S-ranks and higher. So no matter where she becomes a S-class mage, she would be able to visit the grave one way or another.

Of course this is all my theory. :)


I see, now that I think about it, the grave has just begun to glow, which it didn't do when Makarov sat at it. It's either reacting to Cana as a contestant or as the "chosen one". There could also be the possibility that Mavis is turning in his grave since the island is getting more and more destroyed and threatened.

sarutobi_sensei
April 17, 2011, 09:04 AM
Or maybe he'll appear to her and say: You stupid prick, you think not helping your comrades is the right thing to do? You're not worthy to be a FT mage.

And then she collapses.

Shiro Tsuki
April 17, 2011, 09:35 AM
0O
Some major Cana-backslashing going on...
and - to a large extent the character deserves it -_
But frankly - Are we all talking of the same fairy tail where worst enemies redeem their ass and even get in FT?!
Cana is a member of that guild! I am almost sure her redeem-your-ass-up storyline has already been written somewhere in Hiro's desk/mind!...

Bluenote blah - If you people are expecting some kind of huge change...
Then don't waste your time! I am among those who thought Natsu won't hit the deathreaper guy in the lullaby arc - that he won't be able to touch Jellal - That Brain will rape his brains out!....
Well this is FT!!! Unless you are reading some other manga called GH...
I highly doubt Bluenote will take this one - If not Natsu - then Laxus/Gild/Erza might continue the fight....

ghostexiled
April 17, 2011, 06:36 PM
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Please only post in this thread to discuss the current spoilers and then chapter when it is released. :)

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Thorvardur
April 17, 2011, 08:21 PM
Why do so many people say he has some gravity magic? he only raises his hand and splashes everyone down.. could be a techno viking power!! or something crazy

MonsterEnvy
April 17, 2011, 09:12 PM
Why do so many people say he has some gravity magic? he only raises his hand and splashes everyone down.. could be a techno viking power!! or something crazy

because the effect thats hitting them is the way Gravity powers are almost always given from in manga, anime and games

Kuzumikun
April 17, 2011, 10:03 PM
bluenotes attack is crazy! it does look like gravity powers^ hope natsu and the gang are alright from that attack, i hope natsu doesn't go against him and actually win he's been through so many fights and seems like hes brand new and refreshed wen theres someone new to fight against D:

Lee-tyme7
April 17, 2011, 10:21 PM
Bluenote looks like an real nemesis, Magneto kind of bad guy. I sense Guildartz jumping back in a few chapters.
And Wow didn't expect Mashima to shove Lucy's boobs up close to us like that but I'm certainly not complaining, XD.

saya1987
April 17, 2011, 11:10 PM
According to a japanese spoiler report, blue note indeed uses gravity. Secondly, it was also mentioned that he has a good physique. Blue note used gravity to crush/squash Natsu's team.

Both Wendy and Lucy had a change of clothes. Marakov is still lying down.

The report wasn't very informative as you can see. It's pretty much stating the obvious but just to clear the air, reptile guy (blue note) uses gravity!

goldb
April 18, 2011, 05:04 AM
Nice spoilers, Really looking forward to the chapter now. I didn't think Bluenote would be introduced this week, thought he'd only come out when all the 7 Kin fall or close to that. Guess he got bored...

Cana's finally reached Mavis' grave...I still can't figure out who is the person she wants to impress by becoming a S-Class mage but we'll see.

A bit disappointed that this chapter didn't carry on with the Urtear and Gray scenes.

Jorge D. Dragon
April 18, 2011, 05:53 AM
Spoilers are really promising. Especially Bluenote attacking Natsu's group. Bluenote is shown as one of the strongest mages in the manga for now, so I REALLY hope that he won't be taken down by some shitty combo by Lucy with Levy or even Natsu and Gajeel.
Also I think we'll get a bit more than some porn from Lucy, some dumb look from Cana observing Mavis's grave and badass entering from Bluenote in this chapter.;)

jorped
April 18, 2011, 07:47 AM
the spoilers seem great , can't wait for the chapter :zomg

great that we are going to see more of Bluenote !

I just hope that we can see Gildartz soon ! An epic battle between those 2 would be great!!!!

daman246
April 18, 2011, 10:33 AM
that cana girl is really anoying she still hasnt realize she is by far to weak to be even considered to be an S class Mage

Krono
April 18, 2011, 11:12 AM
that cana girl is really anoying she still hasnt realize she is by far to weak to be even considered to be an S class Mage

Seeing as she's been continually under consideration for S-Class rank, no she is not far too weak to be S-Class.

sarutobi_sensei
April 18, 2011, 11:27 AM
Seeing as she's been continually under consideration for S-Class rank, no she is not far too weak to be S-Class.
And yet she hasn't passed once.

Right now, if Lucy hadn't told her where the grave was, she would have no idea.

kkck
April 18, 2011, 11:38 AM
^well, I guess I will take your word over makarov's for that. I don't think strength in the only consideration when deciding who has the right to take the s-class exam. Knowledge, character and personality traits are bound to be important. Kana has a very versatile magic to say the least and her info card does describe her as a veteran and skilled mage. She is not too dumb either so even if she is not among the strongest members she is most likely still a very decent mage. Besides, in the exams there are other people to compete against, would it be that bad for her to have lost the chance to be an s-class mage to mira, erza, luxus or mistgun? We also have to consider erza and mira were probably not as strong as they are now when they took the exam. Mira became an s-class mage about 4 or 5 years ago (she was already an s-class mage when lisana disappeared 3 years ago) so it would be unlikely for her to be as strong then as she is now. Same thing could be said for erza at the very least. Besides, we have already seen the gang on at least one factual s-class mission and their skills were not too shabby for it considering how long ago it was, even lucy did ok. I don't think Cana being a candidate for s-class mage is that far out there...

jorped
April 18, 2011, 01:53 PM
^well, I guess I will take your word over makarov's for that. I don't think strength in the only consideration when deciding who has the right to take the s-class exam. Knowledge, character and personality traits are bound to be important. Kana has a very versatile magic to say the least and her info card does describe her as a veteran and skilled mage. She is not too dumb either so even if she is not among the strongest members she is most likely still a very decent mage. Besides, in the exams there are other people to compete against, would it be that bad for her to have lost the chance to be an s-class mage to mira, erza, luxus or mistgun? We also have to consider erza and mira were probably not as strong as they are now when they took the exam. Mira became an s-class mage about 4 or 5 years ago (she was already an s-class mage when lisana disappeared 3 years ago) so it would be unlikely for her to be as strong then as she is now. Same thing could be said for erza at the very least. Besides, we have already seen the gang on at least one factual s-class mission and their skills were not too shabby for it considering how long ago it was, even lucy did ok. I don't think Cana being a candidate for s-class mage is that far out there...

Agree with everything you said !

But have some doubts about Mira strength.
I think that Mira might probably be weaker than when she she became an S-class mage!

Erza of course is a lot stronger now !!!

kkck
April 18, 2011, 02:11 PM
I have my doubts about that. Mira actually managed to hand fried his own ass on a silver plate in a fight and fought on par with azuma even though she had a limited amount of magic. He also kicked her brother's ass. She really does not seem weaker than the current erza at all for the most part. I would even find it weird that she had this level 3 years ago (being 1 or 2 years younger than current natsu or grey both of whom are very talented). That said, mira could actually use limited forms of transformation magic so perhaps she managed to somehow train to at least maintain or perhaps raise her level of magic.

scareChinaman
April 18, 2011, 04:12 PM
Blue Note is looking like another character shield for the eventual Hades vs Makarov rematch.

ghostexiled
April 18, 2011, 05:05 PM
Chapter is out: http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/22478903/1

ghostexiled
April 18, 2011, 05:06 PM
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sarutobi_sensei
April 18, 2011, 05:16 PM
Oh my god. No way. I can't believe it, Cana's dad is Bluenote, I'm calling it now.

Why is the grave shinning? Is it reacting to Bluenote? Could he be his descendant or something?

Damn, can't wait for the next chapter.

So, it's going to be Lily, Levy and Lissana vs Rustyrose? Lol LLL vs RR xD

Erza vs Asuma, cool! Didn't predict it.

Now, I keep wondering if Urtear is actually telling the truth or not. I'm going to go with no, she's a lying manipulative bitch like we've seen already, but still... there's something in there.

I also wonder if Mavis is going to appear in spirit form or something.

MonsterEnvy
April 18, 2011, 05:16 PM
well Azuma is going to fight Erza and Rustyrose is attacking the camp were all the weakened people are

Bluenote is crushing the rest of them

Erza is about as strong as Mira so she should be even with Azuma Rustyrose has an even less of a fight then he had with Elfman and Evergreen

Cana wants to meet her father

Atobe the king
April 18, 2011, 05:16 PM
okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

-erza fanservice...thank you kindly mashima
-bluenote...i hate your design but gravity control is always awesome to me..
-Urs.....will 0.0
-hmmm i think the cana hate will die down but she still screwed up

good chapter imo

jorped
April 18, 2011, 05:23 PM
Awesome chapter !!!!

But this is way to overkilling to Fairy Tail ! Just hope that Laxus and Gildartz come to save the day ! Because without them , they don't stand a chance !

Next chapter we will finally see why Cana did what she did ! But i think that independently what were the reasons, i might never forgive her for what she did !

And i can't imagine seeing no one beating Bluenote beyond Gildartz! I fight between those 2 is destined to be epic! :zomg

To conclude : Awesome Chapter
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okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

-erza fanservice...thank you kindly mashima
-bluenote...i hate your design but gravity control is always awesome to me..
-Urs.....will 0.0
-hmmm i think the cana hate will die down but she still screwed up

good chapter imo

you forgot the usual Lucy fanservice :lmao

goldb
April 18, 2011, 05:24 PM
What a cool chapter. Gravity as most of us expected Bluenote's power to be. I actually preferred his design when his face was hidden and thought he'd have some sort of bear at least like Ivan or something.

The fanservice was awesome as always :hurr
Azuma vs Erza fight has fantastic potential in my opinion, plus Erza hasn't used up that much magical power compared to the rest of FT mages.

Blunote for Cana's dad? otherwise what do they both want with Mavis' grave and why is it glowing?

Atobe the king
April 18, 2011, 05:28 PM
@Jorped Thats a given, no reason to bring it up :P, Erza is hotter anyway but that's a different discussion (lolmitsurukirijobias).

Depending on who her father is...they just made cana magically important...i'd just thought of her of meh fanservice who's guaranteed to be in a bikini if erza and lucy aren't. What's happening to fairy tail.....

I think this song and it's title sum it all up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_68YU_oshA

i dont particularly like when constant terrible things occur buuut its FT they'll get through this lol

jorped
April 18, 2011, 05:28 PM
Oh my god. No way. I can't believe it, Cana's dad is Bluenote, I'm calling it now.

Why is the grave shinning? Is it reacting to Bluenote? Could he be his descendant or something?

Damn, can't wait for the next chapter.

So, it's going to be Lily, Levy and Lissana vs Rustyrose? Lol LLL vs RR xD

Erza vs Asuma, cool! Didn't predict it.

Now, I keep wondering if Urtear is actually telling the truth or not. I'm going to go with no, she's a lying manipulative bitch like we've seen already, but still... there's something in there.

I also wonder if Mavis is going to appear in spirit form or something.

Why are you saying that Bluenote is Cana's dad? :oh

And what meant Bluenote by saying this

http://i51.tinypic.com/t66xat.png

Is supposed for Natsu to be able to fly ? or did i get everything wrong ?

ShoobyDooBop
April 18, 2011, 05:36 PM
Goddamn!!! Awesome chapter!!!

Erza and Lucy fanservice.... Thank you Mashima-san!!!

Ultear... I still don't get it. Is she just acting or telling the truth? I hope we get the full info about it next chapter.

So Bluenote is Cana's father? And unlike the others, I like Bluenote's design. And come on, time for Gildarts to join the fray and I hope Laxus as well. They don't stand a chance without them.

There's some secret in Mavis' grave and I have something in my mind... Maybe he'll come out in spirit form to aid them or give his strength to Makarov(This one is just a random guess).

Aikidoka
April 18, 2011, 05:43 PM
Bluenote is awesome, gravity's one of my favorite powers and I'm glad Mashima gave it to one of the (seemingly) strongest mages in the FTverse. I don't really mind that he's ugly, though Mashima seems to be mostly following the Shounen trend of ugly=weak (powers/design/character), and I'm hoping he doesn't do the same with Bluenote. As much as I dislike saying it, Natsu seems like the only contender to fight Bluenote now, with Erza preoccupied.

That's another thing. Erza vs. Azuma, so obvious now in retrospect...the badasses of both guilds fighting against each other. I'm confident this'll be a good fight.

Also looking forward to what else Ultear has to say...I'm wondering if the MS translation has faltered again this week, because the context seems to imply Gray should be saying "You're using" rather than "you used"...unless this means Ultear was the one that released Deliora? Either it's a translation mistake or a poorly-introduced plot twist/shocker. If it turns out Ultear was the indirect cause of her mother's death, then I'd expect Mashima to have put more focus on it.

Giga_Gaia
April 18, 2011, 05:51 PM
Bluenote is stupid. Thinking he actually can't lose is gonna be his downfall. Natsu always defeat stronger opponents and Bluenote will fall like the others.

Erza vs Asuma, Erza will defeat him easily. The only reason a weakling like Asuma beated Mira was because she was out of magic power.

As for that glass dude, he is gonna lose somehow.

As for Ultear, she is far too weak to be considered a threat. On Garuna Island, Natsu was easily keeping up with her and she was only using half of her powers. Now if Natsu would have fought her seriously, she wouldn't have stood a chance, but the author just had to let her live so she could meet Grey. Don't understand how she can be the leader of those 7 kins when she is so weak. Zancrow was a bigger threat.

jorped
April 18, 2011, 05:54 PM
Bluenote is awesome, gravity's one of my favorite powers and I'm glad Mashima gave it to one of the (seemingly) strongest mages in the FTverse. I don't really mind that he's ugly, though Mashima seems to be mostly following the Shounen trend of ugly=weak (powers/design/character), and I'm hoping he doesn't do the same with Bluenote. As much as I dislike saying it, Natsu seems like the only contender to fight Bluenote now, with Erza preoccupied.

If that happens, we will not see Natsu moving for a long time :crying

Bluenote is on higher league than Natsu! Bluenote is an opponent to Gildartz !

I can't see any other way of Natsu and the others surviving that don't include the arrived of Gildartz or Laxus ! Or maybe something related with glowing will make Bluenote leave !

ca12nag3
April 18, 2011, 05:55 PM
Why are you saying that Bluenote is Cana's dad? :oh

And what meant Bluenote by saying this

http://i51.tinypic.com/t66xat.png

Is supposed for Natsu to be able to fly ? or did i get everything wrong ?

Ive always held it possible that the dragon abilities they have arnt even half of their true potential. And its possible Bluenote as a superior class mage knows way more about their power.

(im also holding it possible Zeref is the black dragonslayer thus they know about his max abilities etc etc).

So flying and possible dragontransformations with wings and the whole package are an option.

As for Cana well i was on the right track the reason is the grave and its of great importance. (Its indeed possible Bluenote is her dad ^^ luckily she looks like her mom then :D). Anyways become S-Class + pleasing daddy for presenting him with the secrets of the grave. Guess thats partialy what its about.

So in essence you could say she has the reverse relation with her dad as for Lucy.

-Lucy wants to prove she can be on her own and live her life the way she wants it even tho her dad doesnt give a crap about her.
-Im asuming Canas dad doesnt give a crap about her either but shes looking for his love/attention/aproval and will do anything to get that (become S-Class and get the grave secret). And i supose shes out there doing that on her own without her dad knowing btw. Im thinking she might have known/overheard her dad on what he wants and decided to bring him that gift ^^.

jorped
April 18, 2011, 06:01 PM
Bluenote is stupid. Thinking he actually can't lose is gonna be his downfall. Natsu always defeat stronger opponents and Bluenote will fall like the others.

Erza vs Asuma, Erza will defeat him easily. The only reason a weakling like Asuma beated Mira was because she was out of magic power.

As for that glass dude, he is gonna lose somehow.

As for Ultear, she is far too weak to be considered a threat. On Garuna Island, Natsu was easily keeping up with her and she was only using half of her powers. Now if Natsu would have fought her seriously, she wouldn't have stood a chance, but the author just had to let her live so she could meet Grey. Don't understand how she can be the leader of those 7 kins when she is so weak. Zancrow was a bigger threat.

Based on your post it seems that all Grimoire Heart is nothing more than a bunch of weaklings :toc

I can't believe that people really think that Bluenote will be defeated by Natsu ? :o
For that to happen, Natsu would have to have a mysterious huge power up ! I can see him managed to dodge some attacks but if somehow the battle is not interrupted i can't see any of these guys survive! If Makarov was in good conditions the situation would be different !

MonsterEnvy
April 18, 2011, 06:02 PM
Bluenote is stupid. Thinking he actually can't lose is gonna be his downfall. Natsu always defeat stronger opponents and Bluenote will fall like the others.

Erza vs Asuma, Erza will defeat him easily. The only reason a weakling like Asuma beated Mira was because she was out of magic power.

As for that glass dude, he is gonna lose somehow.

As for Ultear, she is far too weak to be considered a threat. On Garuna Island, Natsu was easily keeping up with her and she was only using half of her powers. Now if Natsu would have fought her seriously, she wouldn't have stood a chance, but the author just had to let her live so she could meet Grey. Don't understand how she can be the leader of those 7 kins when she is so weak. Zancrow was a bigger threat.

Natsu was going all out when he fought her on the island she was using 1 3rd of her power not even half she is stronger then him and he has not really grown any stronger

Azuma was even with Mira but Mira was not any weaker then normal she just could not stay in that form too long

Bluenote never said he did not think he could lose he just pinned Natsu down and asked were the grave was

Krono
April 18, 2011, 06:04 PM
Now, I keep wondering if Urtear is actually telling the truth or not. I'm going to go with no, she's a lying manipulative bitch like we've seen already, but still... there's something in there.

One thing I wondered a while back was if Ur could be a former member of Zeref's cult. Her splitting up with Ultear's father when Ultear was young, and Ultear's father staying with the cult and Ultear opting to stay with him would explain a fair bit about why Ultear's been evil since she was a child, and why Ur was scanty enough with the details that people thought Ultear was dead.

The person Cana wants to meet turning out to be her father is not particularly surprising, but it's nice to have it confirmed. Now we just need to learn why she's so determined that it's this exam or bust, to the point that she's abandoned her guild mates. I mean Natsu wants to meet his father as well, and thinks being S-Class would enable him to do that, but he doesn't take it to irrational extremes.

jorped
April 18, 2011, 06:07 PM
Ive always held it possible that the dragon abilities they have arnt even half of their true potential. And its possible Bluenote as a superior class mage knows way more about their power.

(im also holding it possible Zeref is the black dragonslayer thus they know about his max abilities etc etc).

So flying and possible dragontransformations with wings and the whole package are an option.

Glad i didn't get it wrong :Haha

Bluenote is someone very powerful and has probably full knowledge about the Dragons and the DragonSlayers !

But if Mashiro is giving to us this info now it probably means that we will see probably Natsu flying soon !

Since i started reading Fairy Tail i was never this hyped about it ! This chapter was so Epic!! I can't wait for the next chapter :yay

ShoobyDooBop
April 18, 2011, 06:08 PM
Bluenote is stupid. Thinking he actually can't lose is gonna be his downfall. Natsu always defeat stronger opponents and Bluenote will fall like the others.

Erza vs Asuma, Erza will defeat him easily. The only reason a weakling like Asuma beated Mira was because she was out of magic power.

As for that glass dude, he is gonna lose somehow.

As for Ultear, she is far too weak to be considered a threat. On Garuna Island, Natsu was easily keeping up with her and she was only using half of her powers. Now if Natsu would have fought her seriously, she wouldn't have stood a chance, but the author just had to let her live so she could meet Grey. Don't understand how she can be the leader of those 7 kins when she is so weak. Zancrow was a bigger threat.

How come you know Bluenote is thinking he can't lose to anyone? And the reason Natsu defeated opponents like Jellal and Zero was because of a WTF power up and he's one of the main characters.

Mira was out of magic power? She wasn't out of magic power before she fought Azuma. And she lost coz she was out of time and protected Lisanna.

And Ultear is far too weak? What are you saying? She wasn't even using half of her strength when she fought against Natsu. All she did was use one orb. And they already had a little fight and it seems that Natsu couldn't keep up with her. Zancrow was a bigger threat? The opponent Natsu defeated with one hit? Ridiculous!!!

kuroSaki_Ichi
April 18, 2011, 06:18 PM
I really hope natsu doesn't get a random ass power up that can defeat bluenote, cause that would be just bull. Bluenote seems Gildartz level....come on...come back!

ca12nag3
April 18, 2011, 06:19 PM
One thing I wondered a while back was if Ur could be a former member of Zeref's cult. Her splitting up with Ultear's father when Ultear was young, and Ultear's father staying with the cult and Ultear opting to stay with him would explain a fair bit about why Ultear's been evil since she was a child, and why Ur was scanty enough with the details that people thought Ultear was dead.

The person Cana wants to meet turning out to be her father is not particularly surprising, but it's nice to have it confirmed. Now we just need to learn why she's so determined that it's this exam or bust, to the point that she's abandoned her guild mates. I mean Natsu wants to meet his father as well, and thinks being S-Class would enable him to do that, but he doesn't take it to irrational extremes.

In order to understand what Mashima does with his female cast in contradiction to his male cast you should read his earlier work. For the most part whenever he writes about a character on a mission to do their parents wishes they all go to the max extreme.

-With most his female characters he tries to maintain a *daddy's/Mommy's little girl* thing. Just look at all of m.
-Most the guys are all the maturing and get up when they fall typ.

Also many of his characters are selfsacrificial to the point of betraying their current alegiance for relatives/lovers and ideals and even chosing their own death. Wich is a lot.

kkck
April 18, 2011, 06:32 PM
I still can't help but wonder about the tatoo on Bluenote's arm. It is extremely similar to that of fairy tail but it seems to have some key differences. Wonder why he would have such a tatoo if he is a member of grimmoire heart. And what the hell is a deputy director in a guild? First time I ever heard of such a thing.

As for mavis's grave, I think it is going to change the tide of the fight. I have a number of theories:

1.- Fairy law: Too easy though, it would outright eliminate grimmoire heart.
2.- The light will bring back to the island strong people, most likely luxus and gildarts.
3.- Mavis will posses kana and beat the crap out of bluenote.

In spite of the fact that it was obvious mavis's spirit was going to play a role in this fight (as makarov asked him to protect the kids), I know people are going to bitch about this. Bluenote is evidently interested in Mavis so it makes sense for him to be taken out by whatever his spirit is about to do. I seriously can already see people bitching as they did with the grimmoire heart guys but with bluenote lol.

Aikidoka
April 18, 2011, 06:58 PM
I still can't help but wonder about the tatoo on Bluenote's arm. It is extremely similar to that of fairy tail but it seems to have some key differences. Wonder why he would have such a tatoo if he is a member of grimmoire heart. And what the hell is a deputy director in a guild? First time I ever heard of such a thing.
I have no clue about anything else, but I've seen "deputy" used to refer to second-in-command. It would make sense if the word were used in this sense for Bluenote, seeing his interaction with Hades.

White Silver King
April 18, 2011, 07:05 PM
That has happened 3 times already.....

Yeah, but then he turns around and wins for some bullshit reason. I don't think Mashima is stupid enough to allow him to win in a fight against Bluenote, so I'm assuming that won't happen this time.

Krono
April 18, 2011, 07:07 PM
In order to understand what Mashima does with his female cast in contradiction to his male cast you should read his earlier work.

I own all 32 volumes of Rave Master that were released in the US, and yes I've read scanlations of the remaining three volumes.

Atobe the king
April 18, 2011, 07:09 PM
Love how every FT chapter starts out with Lucy's ridiculously oversized breasts being shoved in my face.:-_-

I know i do, and natsu has gotten ryoma syndrome, his losses are now the top of everyones wishlist regardless of its impact on the grandscheme of things.

saya1987
April 18, 2011, 07:17 PM
I don't think natsu's group would be screwed that badly because there's wendy and lucy. Pg 5, it was stated that they are recovering their physical strength. They're not completely useless. And wheee....there's lucky lucy!

kkck
April 18, 2011, 07:26 PM
Well, lucy does not need her magic to use her whip. Anyways, I doubt that will cause more than a distraction. They will definitely be saved somehow....

saya1987
April 18, 2011, 07:32 PM
*facepalm* obviously, I wasn't refering to her whip since it can't do any damage to opponents like bluenote.

In case it can't be any clearer, I meant her gaining suffiient strength to summon celestial spirits. She could at least help.

Anyway, I forgot to mention that Marvis's glowing tomb would probably help Natsu's team to win somehow.

exacta
April 18, 2011, 07:39 PM
I hope Azuma doesn't end up just being fodder again for Erza like almost every other character shes had to fight against.....he's too badass for that. I want GH to survive and continue their war against FT somewhere else in a different arc. Natsu definitely should not beat Bluenote.....someone needs to make him realize that Natsu can't just run around, fap to his nakama and rawr. Natsu shouldn't just carry on ignoring Gildartz advice, especially when he really was able to bring Natsu to his knees.

That's just bad storytelling. Hopefully Bluenote will knock some sense into him I guess. This was a pretty good chapter......I was expecting to us to learn some more interesting things about Urtear and Gray, but what we got see instead was still very interesting. Bluenote's face ended up looking alot different from what I expected, he looks kinda old......still can't tell if the tatto on his arm is GH or something else.

Vaste Lorde
April 18, 2011, 07:47 PM
Blutenote is definitely on Gildarts level.
For one, shonens like this have a formula for how strong a character can be.
With Age = Experience+strength+skills.

Blutenote and Gildarts look about the same age. Talking about Natsu taking him down should be out of the question.

Natsu has already fought hard, the role of this arc is coming to a conclusion. I'm curious to see how mashima will end this arc.

I would be disappointed if everyone in FT makes it out alive. I know the the point was to get Zeref but plot-wise, some dramatic should happen to the main cast to make a greater impact on the story.

PiNinHu
April 18, 2011, 07:52 PM
It seems that Hades does not have Bluenote completely under control. And at the same time when Bluenote leaves his ship, he seems not to want to use bluenote. I have the impression that Bluenote is stronger than Hades, or the same level, what do you guys think?

And in Fairy Tail, is Gildartz also stronger than Makarov? Or the same level?

LoS
April 18, 2011, 08:01 PM
Page 7 is just too silly, I know the FT crew will have to keep marching forward with all their might and cling to hope, but what can they expect to accomplish seeing their own Master in such a poor state considering they know they will have to face the culprit who trashed him around to such a degree? But I know they wont simply cave in and give up. I just wished they would come to the realization sooner.

Urtear's provocation, I don't really know what to think. But to be honest, I am just sitting back and letting this storyline develop and taking it in stride.

Azuma facing off against Ezra is all too obvious now. Azuma kept going on about his pride, wanting to face off against strong opposition, so naturally he would want to face Ezra who is the strongest FT guild member on the island behind Makarov.

Page 13 first panel is kind of odd. Hades himself seems a bit sad that he knows Bluenote will destroy FT. But what is odd is him saying he never wanted to use him again. What is the point of having someone in your guild if you don't ever let them use their magic against anything?

Page 14 middle panel is so funny. Levy building up hope thinking that their combined strength would surely be enough to overcome GH. Well it is Fairy Tail, and the good guys will certainly get such a plot boost.

As others have pointed out page 17 bottom panel about flying probably sparks what will be the most widely discussed portion of this chapter. I myself won't go into much discussion on it until I see an alternate translation or the following chapter expanding on this comment.

Looking over Bluenote's tattoo in a much better view this time reveals that it is not very similar to FT's mark, someone earlier said it is, but it isn't. If anything it takes on the shape of a "G" with some feathering out. There isn't a 3 pronged wing shape on it, nor a real tail. But who knows, this could be something similar to One Piece where Nami and the Fish people got a tattoo to cover up an existing tattoo.

Page 21, Bluenote expressing his desire to reach Mavis' grave is a precursor to revealing that there is a way to harness some power from reaching the grave. Someone pointed out earlier that many members would bitch about the grave marker situation, but this page just reveals that by going their you can obtain something.

Many of us could figure out that Mavis' spirit would somehow protect the island from an etherion blast even before Doran Balt revealed that the Council intended to fire a blast. Before this arc it was revealed that the Council would take out FT and it was pretty obvious that once they got to the island and GH showed up the Council would fire the blast.

The only good thing about page 22 is that it reveals that Cana didn't need to see the grave in particular, but it was more just the goal/end point for her to become an S-class in order to meet her father. The Grave wasn't what she had been seeking/longing for, it was just a step in the process of obtaining her new title. Although, this reasoning of becoming an S-class is nowhere near acceptable for her bitching/moaning it is something done in manga quite a bit. The child strives for power/status so that their parent will accept them. Her father must have told her come seek me out once you become S-class.

Page 23 just kind of upsets me, because I would be fine with Mavis' spirit protecting the island and the FT guild members from Etherion and GH, but it looks as if power will be granted to Cana, and this is just not acceptable. Bluenote himself was seeking out power from the grave, but I really don't want to see Cana receive some power boost from Mavis' personally.

Also, isn't it all too convenient that the GH members can easily find and track down the FT members? Azuma seemed to find Ezra in particular and did it quickly. Rustyrose seemed to find the camp without a hitch either. Why can't the FT members find one another easily, or track down/avoid the GH members? There is some parity here that is not sitting well.

Oh as an edit, I was thinking this just the other day, that Azuma would have to fight someone strong from FT before the arc ends. Because he is the only member from the Kin who has not yet had his magic revealed. He will either reveal it's nature to Ezra willingly, or as was the case with Ezra vs. Midnight she will explicitly relay her thoughts to Azuma detailing what his magic is to the reader.

sarutobi_sensei
April 18, 2011, 08:32 PM
Why are you saying that Bluenote is Cana's dad? :oh

And what meant Bluenote by saying this

http://i51.tinypic.com/t66xat.png

Is supposed for Natsu to be able to fly ? or did i get everything wrong ?
Well, I mean, it's kinda obvious right? That he is her father. Considering that she wants to impress someone, she's been trying to do it for a long time, and they both want to go to the grave (though we don't know why does Bluenote want to get there).

Anyway, I'm sticking with this till it's revealed who's her dad.

Regarding the still can't fly thing, I have no idea what he might be talking about. Probably about himself actually.

FaerieoftheSea
April 18, 2011, 09:27 PM
Bluenote Stinger is a pretty powerful guy. If he's got no interest in Fairy Tail and he doesn't care about Zeref. Now, Zeref in itself is enough to make people go, "WOAH! DANGER!" So when one of the most powerful bad guys mentions a mere grave, I think we know it has got to be something monumental.

I honestly don't think it's Mavis' spirit to come help them.

I'm surprised Cana is disregarding the whole battle around her just to become S-Class to see her father. Obviously, he must be very important to her in order for her to go to such drastic measures. Perhaps he's someone very powerful, a bit like Lucy's father? I don't know what she would be proving to her father, unless it had to do something with her mother, but we hardly even know her history. She does drink alcohol a lot, so perhaps it's something to do with that? Maybe she wants to forget her worries?

I don't think Bluenote is her father. The reason I think that is because I don't think he would be going to the grave just to see her or her as an S-Class. Bad guys like them don't usually care about their children (at least in my opinion!). I don't think Cana would just become an S-Class at arriving at the grave.

Also, because of her surprise, I doubt she knew the grave was going to glow. Does anyone else think it started glowing when Bluenote entered play? I don't think just because Cana entered the threshold meant it would start glowing. I don't even think the grave would normally glow if they found it during an uninterrupted S-Class trial. I believe Bluenote's presence is indeed effecting this, especially if Bluenote wants it himself.

Uh... I think that's it, unless I forgot something, for now.

sarutobi_sensei
April 18, 2011, 09:30 PM
I agree with you (as I've pointed before) on the part that the grave is probably reacting to Bluenote, since it was already shining before Cana got there.

But what could it be? A super powerful Magic? Lost information? A way to make yourself way stronger than you should be?

Or just the spirit of an old man who wants to protect his island and guild?

White Silver King
April 18, 2011, 09:33 PM
I don't know why people are still being hard on Kana. It's her dad for Christ sake! If I was in her situation and I needed to betray some of my friends to find my mom I'd do it and not think twice about it.

1337 haxor
April 18, 2011, 09:36 PM
Well, I mean, it's kinda obvious right? That he is her father. Considering that she wants to impress someone, she's been trying to do it for a long time, and they both want to go to the grave (though we don't know why does Bluenote want to get there).

Anyway, I'm sticking with this till it's revealed who's her dad.

Regarding the still can't fly thing, I have no idea what he might be talking about. Probably about himself actually.

I will not confirm this but it appears to have been left implicit.

Bluenote would likely fill the description of an absurdingly powerful father figure who cannot look at his daughter because of her weakness.

Heck if you think things deeper, it might have been that he told her to become an S-Class just before leaving to fight in the war that made him legendary.

Cana's crying panel (Charle's prediction) could be a reference to she finding her long gone father before her in that island.

Above all it's a good thing that Bluenote is a far more deeper character than just a psychopatic juggernaut, if there was one thing that made Brain weak was him going beserk and idiotic for free.

Bluenote won't kill FT as long as his personal goals are fulfilled and that is a clever plot route to avoid the impossibility of facing him at the moment.

FaerieoftheSea
April 18, 2011, 09:39 PM
Oops, haha. I sort of skipped in a page in hurry to filter out what I thought.

It's sort of hard to figure out the importance of the grave. Half of it is discovering whether Bluenote is there for the grave, or for Mavis himself. Mavis is dead (. . . supposedly? I don't know, Zeref is alive, although he was "slumbering". Never put anything out of the question!) so I don't think that means Bluenote is going for him unless his body is important.

After all, it was the grave itself that was glowing. Also, upon re-reading the chapter to analyze it, Hades says he's apologizing to Makarov for using Bluenote again. I wonder what happened last time? And if that mark on his hand that supposedly looks like Fairy Tail's mysteriously relates to that said 'again'?

I totally skipped talking about Ultear and Gray. (Well, and the others.) I don't think much of it right now. Let's see... Ul lost Ultear over about seven or so years ago, yeah? I'm wondering, if with this whole, "Ul's will" (assuming she isn't lying), if it was planned long before by Ul to her daughter. Although, then again, I don't think Ul hinted at anything of the such. For her, it was that she lost her daughter.

After all, why would Ul want this in the first place?

Atobe the king
April 18, 2011, 09:49 PM
I don't know why people are still being hard on Kana. It's her dad for Christ sake! If I was in her situation and I needed to betray some of my friends to find my mom I'd do it and not think twice about it.

There's the issue, they aren't friends FT is family. I'm also not gonna let my family...or even "friends" get brutally murdered. And is makarov dies who is going to recognize her as S-Class? We'll have to see how it all turns out but as it stands....

tobeulp
April 18, 2011, 10:15 PM
Not very excited with Bluenote also charging in the war mainly because we all know that Gildartz is his counterpart.. Well the past few chapters are quite disappointing for me because this arc starts so great that by chapter by chapter it is becoming lame specially when GH members slowly decreasing... Well I hope this arc ends great...

LoS
April 18, 2011, 10:29 PM
Funny thing about all of this is, if Cana's father is some powerful person, or even an extremely strong Mage, just what will Cana accomplish by gaining the title S-Class?

It in itself wont make her stronger, it is simply a title. Although, it is looking like she will receive some power boost this arc, so she unfortunately will get stronger.

Anyway, it would be hilarious if her father was like, "well you claim you are S-Class, yet you are still so weak."

sarutobi_sensei
April 18, 2011, 10:29 PM
I don't know why people are still being hard on Kana. It's her dad for Christ sake! If I was in her situation and I needed to betray some of my friends to find my mom I'd do it and not think twice about it.

So instead of asking for help, you'd back stab your own family (yes cause the bond in FT isn't just a friendship bond, it's a family bond) in order to accomplish something? I'm sorry but that's just the worst kind of people there is.

Now, if you lie to them and make them "suffer" just to let them go making it look like they escaped and then telling them the truth, that's not lack of character, that's not wanting to help you.

What Cana did was to endanger the others, mainly Lucy, because she wanted to become an S-Class mage. She wasn't doing it so she could protect them, she did this because she is only thinking about herself.


I will not confirm this but it appears to have been left implicit.

Bluenote would likely fill the description of an absurdingly powerful father figure who cannot look at his daughter because of her weakness.

Heck if you think things deeper, it might have been that he told her to become an S-Class just before leaving to fight in the war that made him legendary.

Cana's crying panel (Charle's prediction) could be a reference to she finding her long gone father before her in that island.

Above all it's a good thing that Bluenote is a far more deeper character than just a psychopatic juggernaut, if there was one thing that made Brain weak was him going beserk and idiotic for free.

Bluenote won't kill FT as long as his personal goals are fulfilled and that is a clever plot route to avoid the impossibility of facing him at the moment.
Well yeah, they said the guy ended the war the moment he got in there but he doesn't seem to be crazy maniacal villain, more like, I want to do what suits me best.

I like these kind of villain, only actually killing those that oppose them if they directly endanger the possibility of him accomplishing his goals.

LoS
April 18, 2011, 10:47 PM
It's too bad that the 7 Kin have been downgraded each chapter this arc. You would think that if they are in the presence of such monumental juggernaut powerhouses in Hades and Bluenote each and every single day it would have forced themselves to become ridiculously strong as well.

Ero-Sanji
April 18, 2011, 11:23 PM
As I mentioned before, Cana is just after the title. Now we know it's her father. The question is what Los mentioned what does she need the title for? Perhaps it's a sign toward her father that she's strong now and that he will come to her and not the other way around.

Now, the interesting part is that the grave is glowing at the moment she stepped in, why?

I'm scared of two things at the moment. First is the coalition of Lily, Lisanna and writer girl(forgot her name), I'm worried that they might actually manage to defeat Rustyrose because of their team work... The other thing is that Bluenote just came across Natsu, and we all know that Natsu has a thing for utterly defeating much much stronger opponents.

gaston42
April 19, 2011, 12:43 AM
Come to think of it, Levy's power has some similarities with Rustyrose's one (he can materialize what he imagines => she materializes what she writes). So it's not that farfetched to have them fight and Levy winning by outsmarting him.

Don't forget that Levy was chosen as an S-class candidate. With some confidence and a good opponent matchup, she could shine.

k-dom
April 19, 2011, 12:44 AM
Well I'm not to worried. If Natsu win it would be probably thanks to the help of Marvis spirit. I don't think it will be just a power boost for Kana but for the entire guild.
But I'm really curious about why bluenote was searching for him. And if this is related to the fact that Zeref was on the island

saya1987
April 19, 2011, 01:27 AM
may be there wouldn't be much of a fight between natsu and bluenote. Natsu could use Gildart's lesson here that he is of no match against such a powerful opponent. Of course, Blue note wouldn't let them escape until he knows where the grave is. Lucy could easily save the day by either blurting out the location of the real grave or just giving him a fake location.

As for cana, what she did wasn't right but I don't see her as bad as some of you think she is. Obviously, she regards her biological father closer to her than anyone in her FT family. Afterall, everyone can have a lot of family members (close family friends, godsiblings etc) but only one pair of biological parents.

wooticus
April 19, 2011, 01:31 AM
wow, impressing chapter. so now we know that there's much more about mavis grave than just being a grave. Bluenote has to have some other intentions.. some that even surpass zeref.. also urtears speech about ur's will might come up interesting..

to be honest i can't imagine what will happen next. well erza will defeat azuma, guess there's no questioning that.

also natsu & crew won't be able to defeat bluenote, he's just too powerful.

rustyrose vs. the other guys... well i can't see defeating them now while their spiritual energy is depleted.. maybe they get some support by cana..


so what could possibly happen? some things i thought of are:

- mavis grave somehow boosting cana's power up to the insane, letting her defeat bluenote. don't think that could be it as hades would still be left.

- the grave with some sort of technique restoring the magical energy of every FT member.. that would be kind of lame to be honest..

- the grave / mavis summoning some powerful allys... well maybe, because we're just all curious about seeing gildartz fight in a real battle where he can just go crazy

- the spirit of mavis vermillion appearing.. doing something..(most probable one i guess)... like.. illuminating cana so she notices that she did something wrong.. taking over her body going wild.. it would be great to at least see mavis.. fighting against hades would be insane..

- the glowing part may just be some magic spell done by makarov to guide to the last part of the exam




and bluenote.. maybe he just wants to become S-class, too :D

Or he is cana's father :D

scruffyboy12
April 19, 2011, 03:00 AM
I don't know if it as already been mentioned, but does anyone think that Canas' father is Bluenote. Both of them seem determined to get to Mavis's grave. Maybe she wants to get it so she can meet him.

Edit: Nvm I see it has already been brought up.

Skyguardian
April 19, 2011, 03:01 AM
Well, I mean, it's kinda obvious right? That he is her father. Considering that she wants to impress someone, she's been trying to do it for a long time, and they both want to go to the grave (though we don't know why does Bluenote want to get there).

Anyway, I'm sticking with this till it's revealed who's her dad.

Regarding the still can't fly thing, I have no idea what he might be talking about. Probably about himself actually.

I guess the can't fly thing was meant to diss the members of Fairy Tails cause normaly Fairys are able to fly but the gild members can't do it.

Ero-Sanji
April 19, 2011, 03:06 AM
Well I'm not to worried. If Natsu win it would be probably thanks to the help of Marvis spirit. I don't think it will be just a power boost for Kana but for the entire guild.

No offence toward you're post but this is exactly what I fear. When will Natsu through his own strength defeat someone?

I know that an ongoing theme in FT is friendship and teamwork but for once it would be so satisfying for Natsu to either lose or win through his own work.

Since the attack of GH I knew/thought that the Grave will be behind their retreat and I still hope it will work that way but not that it empowers everyone to win a battle that by the author is an impossible task.

In this arc Mashima has in some way created a double standard were they are supposed to know when to give up but then allows them to skip this "rule" at the same time, in the same arc.

Anyway, I still have faith and hope that Bluenot will inflict severe damage and that he, Ultear and Makarov leaves the island victorious. Rustyrose and Azuma are probably doomed and I'm really interested at ho this will work out. I mean Levy wasn't that great against the goat and the rooster but I guess the friendship boost will help her. Even though I like swimsuit Erza:D I'm curious to see her potential explosive or bomb armour.

Btw, how did the GH-ship get up again?

Kuzumikun
April 19, 2011, 04:03 AM
oh em gee! crazy chapter!!!
Erza vs Asuma D: i hope she stomps him that guy is mean~!
Levy and Lisana and Lily vs that idiot RustyRose! D: they should try to seduce him haha-looking forward to Levy fight-
Bluenote seems like he's Cana's father i'm not sure, if he is she can be all like father stop what you are doing to my guild and he ends up joining fairy tail(Maybe)

jorped
April 19, 2011, 04:26 AM
Well, I mean, it's kinda obvious right? That he is her father. Considering that she wants to impress someone, she's been trying to do it for a long time, and they both want to go to the grave (though we don't know why does Bluenote want to get there).

Anyway, I'm sticking with this till it's revealed who's her dad.

Regarding the still can't fly thing, I have no idea what he might be talking about. Probably about himself actually.

Still not fully convinced but i won't say that it doesn't is possible !!

And about the flying thing , i think that he is talking to Natsu! Bluenote is in a very high class, he probably already did a lot of very dangerous stuff! He probably knows a lot of stuff about the Dragons!

So i think that he probably was talking about Natsu! Although i don't have any idea how the hell did understood in just a matter of seconds that he couldn't sleep!

But i am sticking with this opinion ! I think that Natsu still has a lot to learn and we definitely are going to see more hidden powers coming from them. If Dragon Slayers perfect everything that the dragons taught them I think that them will have close powers and comparable to the dragons! And we can't forget how strong the dragons are , even Gildartz wouldn't stand a chance against one!

Kuzumikun
April 19, 2011, 04:29 AM
Still not fully convinced but i won't say that it doesn't is possible !!

And about the flying thing , i think that he is talking to Natsu! Bluenote is in a very high class, he probably already did a lot of very dangerous stuff! He probably knows a lot of stuff about the Dragons!

So i think that he probably was talking about Natsu! Although i don't have any idea how the hell did understood in just a matter of seconds that he couldn't sleep!

But i am sticking with this opinion ! I think that Natsu still has a lot to learn and we definitely are going to see more hidden powers coming from them. If Dragon Slayers perfect everything that the dragons taught them I think that them will have close powers and comparable to the dragons! And we can't forget how strong the dragons are , even Gildartz wouldn't stand a chance against one!

i think bluenote was mocking all of them because fairies fly but the guild members "can't"
I also wonder if the grave is ganna give everyone a sudden buff D:

Zeltrax
April 19, 2011, 05:49 AM
Talk about exaggerating,
that line about "no life will be left alive" irritated me, it's like the bad guys look down on themselves too after all that hyping, its like oracion seis all over again but this time its bluenote as zero but before I say that, I approve that this is not an asspull because Cana foreshadowed it a long time ago.
That's not my only complain tho, natsu is behaving in a sudden mature way that is odd and then what in the world is spiritual energy? Was that ever brought up by ft? If yes, I apologize.
Cana is insane over his father to go that far and it seems that instead of hades as the main big bad, we have bluenote now. Surely there'll be a Kana flashback/backstory + Natsu getting mad + sudden powerup or as k-dom mentioned via marvis grave + pwning Bluenote.
Then my prediction is that Makarov goes for a rematch with Hades..
Gravity is disappointing, the rest of them have much more interesting powers.. and there's a zero vibe in this guy.
Is Gray not going to fight again? It seems to be the case according to the matchups..and urtear talking like that.

The good thing is that Hades is not laughing it off and is actually getting serious now that his guild is losing.

saya1987
April 19, 2011, 06:11 AM
my interpretation of bluenote's flying statement is that it is linked to his gravitational powers. It wasn't a mockery of fairies.

"can you fly?"
"nope, still can't fly."
At this point, he's probably thinking, if you can't fly, might as well fall and thus, he used gravity to crush them.

Anyway, I don't think there's much to the statement. It's probably a phrase(and also a character trait) which he likes to say a lot or that he says it before he attacks someone. It's kinda like saggitarius who keeps repeating his phrase of "moshi moshi" or kain repeating "woowhee".


Btw, doesn't it nag you when hades said" I hand't intended on using him(bluenote) again."

I'm really curious when was the first time hades used bluenote and it seems like bluenote knows marakov personally.

jorped
April 19, 2011, 07:12 AM
i think bluenote was mocking all of them because fairies fly but the guild members "can't"

Maybe ! but kinda i hope that it isn't what Bluenote really intended to say by saying that! I still hope that being a Dragon Slayer can give you more powers than what we have saw until now !

And this would fix a lot of annoying moments! :zomg

Who here isn't already sick of seeing Natsu always getting nauseated because of the transports ?

it would just be too perfect for him and to us :toc

:3c

goldb
April 19, 2011, 08:00 AM
If Bluenote is the Deputy-Commander does that mean there's others beside him, the 7kin and Hades( Him being the Commander I presume.)

Laughed when I saw Bluenote's coat, looks like the Marine "Justice" coats from OP :lmao

sarutobi_sensei
April 19, 2011, 09:01 AM
@Ero Sanji - Technically, Natsu always uses his power, other people just tend to awake it.

Against Gerard when he ate Etherion he awakened Dragon Force, a power that was sleeping inside of him and that needs to be properly fueled (since he still doesn't know how to awaken it by himself).

Same thing against Zero, he got the same power awakened by Gerard this time.

Against Zancrow he used his own power to cancel his own magic power and then ate Zancrow's fire to overpower him.

In all instances, it's his own power that he uses, it's just that he gets some help awakening it cause he hasn't mastered his own abilities yet.

Shiro Tsuki
April 19, 2011, 09:41 AM
0O
Its funny how many among you have been bitching around for so long about the importance of friendship and nakama-powered plots in the manga!
...and now backstabbing friends is like the worse thing anyone could have done in FT!
So she wants to see her father...
Not the best excuse ever - But frankly - people are selfish - they always want something in return - I see the Cana-meeting-father in a whole new light...
How can love for someone just mean everything that you obsess till exasperation!
Its human nature...
But frankly -_ having the S-class title really means not a damn thing!
Okay you get higher ranked missions - But does that mean you are the strongest?
Maybe her 'father' set a condition that she should become an S-CLASS before she can meet him again...

The whole grave thing makes you think that Bluenote could be Cana's dad!
But its highly improbable!...
Again - Bluenote is being hyped! Be ready to collect your pieces when someone in FT will bust his ass! (which will happen because this is FT!)
I am seriously hoping its not Natsu! :s

Azuma vs Erza is thrilling!
On one side you have the woman who usually never loses...
and on the other side you've got Azuma - the kind of guy who is not used to losing in mangas (Have you seen how the guy is drawn!!? Some kind of adonis :D)

Faust Lim
April 19, 2011, 09:52 AM
i don't understand why cana would have to pass the s-class trial exam just to see Mavis Vermillon her "father" when she could have just asked makarov to see the grave...
anyway...can't wait for next chap. : that which couldn't be said

ca12nag3
April 19, 2011, 10:23 AM
Maybe her 'father' set a condition that she should become an S-CLASS before she can meet him again...


This does not explain why she k.o.ed Lucy and went off on her own ^^. Since the S-Class trial is a team effort they could have tagteamed all the way to the end and make Cana S-Class.
Lucy didnt bail out on her cause of the flair but she took out Lucy and ran off...why?

So that defeats the entire idea that her goal is become S-Class to see her dad.

Seriously i think its the grave and w/e secret it holds that she plans to get for her dad.

meepers4982
April 19, 2011, 11:13 AM
okay chapter, but definitely better than nothing. I think under the circumstances that ca12nag3 states: (seriously i think its the grave and w/e secret it holds that she plans to get for her dad.) i could see bluenote being her father and getting tired of waiting and going to the grave himself.
However that doesnt sound to be very plausible especially since her goal is to become an s-class mage and not to see the grave especially since the trials change every year for the s-class test.
One theory i have is that part of the reason cana wants to be an s-class mage is so that she is strong enough to fend of blue-note (idk im trying to make a connection since mashima is practically screaming at us that there is on)
i quickly went back to the part where he is shown and he has the same hair coloring style cana does so father possibility just rose a little bit in my book.
also interesting point to not is that lucy is the only concious on left from the group encountered by bluenote so good possibility she will lead him there, also another hint that there is a relation between the two.

k-dom
April 19, 2011, 11:21 AM
Hum, the grave was just the aim of the current S-class test. If Makarov had asked to search a lemon tree, Kana would be searching a lemon tree. It's completely unrelated to her father or the fact that bluenote is searching the grave too or else it's a mega coincidence.
That her father has asked for her to become a S-class mage is more credible. Or maybe she knows where he is but his location can only be reached by completing an S-class mission

miramira
April 19, 2011, 12:10 PM
* Looks like Natsu gets to fight Bluenote....ah, well. I personally think he won't stand a chance against that guy, but Natsu being Natsu, you never know when he gets another super power up. :| anyways Bluenote expressed interest in the grave, so hopefully Natsu won't get to stop him ya know what I mean? He's gotta get to that grave so we'd know what he wants from there. Either he'd trash Natsu and team or they'll get separated. I can't see him falling before he gets to his destination :D

* I don't like that there's a Lucy fanservice all the time. She's more than that, peoples. **Sighs.

* Erza vs Azuma-- I think they're on the same level in combat, and both already fought soumeone in the previous chaps, so hopefully we get to see a decent, well-balanced fight :}

* Rustyrose vs everyone in the camp-- hmm, maybe Levy's script magic can do some good. Not saying she'll beat him easy, just that they're both er, "creating" something out of nothing? I'm not sure about Lisanna fighting... she seems still shaken...and am I the only one that didn't like Lisanna counting on Natsu's arrival? It was sweet, I'd accept if you insist, but I thought she should know to fight for her own at least. Or maybe she's just tired too after her fight w/ Erza....

* Gray and Urtear--I can never guess where the story's going, w/ those two.

I want to say that Urtear's just pretending..but I don't see a reason for her to at that moment. I mean what will she gain? If she has some resentment against Gray she could easily fight and defeat him w/o having to pretend anything, maybe kill him. (not underestimating gray, just giving a senario) If she's serious about pretending then it means she wants Gray on her/their side, and in order to get him she must pretend she's an ally. But for what? Is Gray that powerful or important to try to recruit? O_O

If she's saying the truth, then Deliora's arc was just a bit wasted, for I thought the essence of it was Ur's love. Besides, she openly admitted to all those schemes involving Gerard and deliora befiore... I just can't think of Ur as evil...maybe she is but it's a different side, another persona? The Ur who thought and protected Gray and Leon doesn't seem capable of evil to me :|

It could also work this way-there's a third evil person involved. someone brainwashing Urtear into believing what she's doing is her mother's will.. oh well. i'll stop wondering and just wait for the truth to be revealed. it's much easier though it'd take so long. lol :D

But whichever is true, there's something to Urtear's pretense. She has got to have a reason to share those things to Gray, true or not.

*i'm sleepy now, so let's not make me start with Cana. i want to give her a chance to redeem herself but as it is her reason's personal and therefore her actions were selfish. try much better next chapter, pretty miss. :|

...all in all I thought it's a good chapter :) not very very good but not bad either. good night!

Sollum
April 19, 2011, 12:44 PM
I bet 10 imaginary dollars that Natsu will beat Bluenote.

And from what Bluenote said about "flying", i get a strange feeling that he obliterated few of DS's himself.

And.... *drum roll*
Lol @ Cana.

Ero-Sanji
April 19, 2011, 12:46 PM
@Ero Sanji - Technically, Natsu always uses his power, other people just tend to awake it.

Against Gerard when he ate Etherion he awakened Dragon Force, a power that was sleeping inside of him and that needs to be properly fueled (since he still doesn't know how to awaken it by himself).

Same thing against Zero, he got the same power awakened by Gerard this time.

Against Zancrow he used his own power to cancel his own magic power and then ate Zancrow's fire to overpower him.

In all instances, it's his own power that he uses, it's just that he gets some help awakening it cause he hasn't mastered his own abilities yet.

Technically this so called power of his own is fueled by some other energy.

Etherion had energy within that made him more powerful but it's not just his own power as in own ability but his skill to actually defeat one by himself.

Against the Grim Reaper, he got help from Happy.
Against Gazeel, he got help from Lucy.
Against Gérard, he got help from Erza and the darkness dude.
Against Zero, he got help from Gérard.
Against Zancrow, he got help from Makarov.

When is he going to win by himself against a major foe. I mean I don't care if he gets help from time to time but not every single time. I for once would like for him to lose since it shows room for growth etcetera but sometimes I feel it's just too much. The first two are okey, better yet even great but at the time it came to Zero it became too predictable.

Remember though these are my opinions, the bad thing with constant power-ups from random sides are like in this situation. The minute I saw Bluenote infront of Natsu I immediately thought tht Natsu would get a power up from Mavis and then at the end of the arc it started glowing. Not saying it's bound to happen but it would suck if it did.

kkck
April 19, 2011, 12:51 PM
natsu will not beat bluenote. He will be taken out by mavis(either directly or indirectly), I doubt his shining grave is a coincidence or that it will not have relevance.

ShoobyDooBop
April 19, 2011, 01:02 PM
I don't care that Natsu got help from others in order to beat two strong opponents, Jellal and Zero. These are fights he shouldn't have been able to win. It's just too much. Jellal was a wizard saint, Zero was the master of OS and much more stronger than Brain. And Natsu defeated them.Heck, why didn't Natsu get a title of Wizard Saint then if defeated one? It's just suitable, right? I really really hope Mashima doesn't ruin this arc by giving Natsu WTF power-up.

Atobe the king
April 19, 2011, 01:03 PM
wait wait...first natsu winning all the time is wrong...now its wrong for a character fueled by nakama to win with help?

Shit i think i'm just getting too old for this genre...

VS Vegeta, help from krillin,gohan,yajirobi, and the spirit bomb
VS Freeza, help from gohan,piccolo, the spirit bomb (and inadvertently krillin)

VS Neji, help from Kyubi

VS byakuya help from Hollow

I hope my point is clear.

ShoobyDooBop
April 19, 2011, 01:23 PM
It's okay if the opponents was someone like Cobra and other mages at this level but defeating a Wizard Saint level?

Atobe the king
April 19, 2011, 01:41 PM
Protagonist,shounen - protagonist la shounen is a really kewl guy, he wins almost all his fights and doesn't afraid of anything because of 8 layers of plot armor.

I'm not saying you guys can't have your opinions and shouldn't speak them...but i come here to DISCUSS FT, not read people complain about FT and criticize mashima (especially since in the grandscheme of things this wont affect anything)

sarutobi_sensei
April 19, 2011, 01:46 PM
i don't understand why cana would have to pass the s-class trial exam just to see Mavis Vermillon her "father" when she could have just asked makarov to see the grave...
anyway...can't wait for next chap. : that which couldn't be said
As far as we know, Mavis isn't her father and it makes no sense that he is.

goldb
April 19, 2011, 02:00 PM
I bet 10 imaginary dollars that Natsu will beat Bluenote.

And from what Bluenote said about "flying", i get a strange feeling that he obliterated few of DS's himself.

And.... *drum roll*
Lol @ Cana.

I'll see your 10 dollars and raise you another 20 that he won't won't touch Bluenote or I'll seriously question Mashima, he's not his level. He just about defeated Zancrow by using up all his magical power and getting a hand from Makarov...and that wasn't before his ass was handed to it by the Godslayer.


And people are paying too much attention to what Bluenote has said about "flying". Most probably he's making a reference to fairies and his ability to bring anyone down(gravity) imo.

FaerieoftheSea
April 19, 2011, 02:37 PM
Okay, maybe this will be a bit more insight into the whole "flying" thing.

Hades did say he was using Bluenote again. Bluenote himself, "Nope, still can't fly." Still! I'm thinking this whole "flying" thing may be a reference to that previous event when Bluenote encountered Fairy Tail. Although most of you are probably right and it does entail the ability of fairies to fly, I think this explains it moreso.

Krono
April 19, 2011, 03:11 PM
Page 13 first panel is kind of odd. Hades himself seems a bit sad that he knows Bluenote will destroy FT. But what is odd is him saying he never wanted to use him again. What is the point of having someone in your guild if you don't ever let them use their magic against anything?

That one is easy. Just because you never want to use something or someone again does not mean that you won't need to use it/them again. Therefore you keep it around just in case, and so that it can't be easily picked up by someone else and used, particularly against you.


I'm scared of two things at the moment. First is the coalition of Lily, Lisanna and writer girl(forgot her name), I'm worried that they might actually manage to defeat Rustyrose because of their team work...

Why scared? I'd be entirely unsurprised. Consider that Fairy Tail has a strong theme of good teamwork winning, and that this arc has a theme of the Kin being defeated by their own power being used against them.

Then consider that while Rusty Rose was explaining what his power was, he stated that it had several limitations and restrictions before boasting that even so he'd never been defeated. Zoldeo then demonstrated just how ruinous breaking those limits and restrictions could be. Then Azuma cautioned Rusty Rose against underestimating Fairy Tail, and it does not seem that Rusty Rose heeded his advice.

In other words, Rusty Rose is well set up for someone relatively weak but smart like Levy to figure out what his limitations are, use teamwork to exploit those limits and restrictions against him, and defeat him as a karmicly fitting punishment for his hubris.

Ero-Sanji
April 19, 2011, 03:37 PM
wait wait...first natsu winning all the time is wrong...now its wrong for a character fueled by nakama to win with help?

Shit i think i'm just getting too old for this genre...

VS Vegeta, help from krillin,gohan,yajirobi, and the spirit bomb
VS Freeza, help from gohan,piccolo, the spirit bomb (and inadvertently krillin)

VS Neji, help from Kyubi

VS byakuya help from Hollow

I hope my point is clear.

It's wrong when it happens every single time with the same character since it brings forth an inconvenient predictability. That's why I prefer Erza's and Gray's battles over Natsu's. The Neji and Byakuya aren't that good examples, no? That's like saying Lucy is getting help from her spirits(which she does but they are her spirits fueled by her magic). Hollow and Kyuubi are their powers just like Dragon force etcetera but etherion and flame of rebuke and so on are given power-ups.

I don't have a problem with outside help, it's great when it's nicely done but not in situation when it appears forced, unnecessary and illogical.



Why scared? I'd be entirely unsurprised. Consider that Fairy Tail has a strong theme of good teamwork winning, and that this arc has a theme of the Kin being defeated by their own power being used against them.

Then consider that while Rusty Rose was explaining what his power was, he stated that it had several limitations and restrictions before boasting that even so he'd never been defeated. Zoldeo then demonstrated just how ruinous breaking those limits and restrictions could be. Then Azuma cautioned Rusty Rose against underestimating Fairy Tail, and it does not seem that Rusty Rose heeded his advice.

In other words, Rusty Rose is well set up for someone relatively weak but smart like Levy to figure out what his limitations are, use teamwork to exploit those limits and restrictions against him, and defeat him as a karmicly fitting punishment for his hubris.

I'm scared because she didn't do that much against Gazeel nor for Gazeel. She did well but I'm not impressed and I wouldn't bet on her against a 7 Kin, especially not this one.

Look at the situation, this guy single-handedly defeated both Elfman and Evergreen at the same time without receiving injury. His opponent are the weakest around and the strongest cat but they can barely move let alone fight because of lack of magic. How are they supposed to win if not for a random and forced spell out of the blue? That's what I fear since it would be very repetitive and I sincerely hope that I'm severely wrong, I still have faith.

scandalous'
April 19, 2011, 03:38 PM
natsu will not beat bluenote. He will be taken out by mavis(either directly or indirectly), I doubt his shining grave is a coincidence or that it will not have relevance.

I agree, I think that natsu will put the advice he got earlier from gildartz to use and try to flee from the scene. No way he's beating this guy. My bet it he'll distract blue note so the rest can escape, or someone intervenes. Hopefully gildartz or laxus.

FaerieoftheSea
April 19, 2011, 03:49 PM
I think Natsu will probably try to attack Bluenote at the least. I can say that he always tries to go up against the more powerful opponent, whether or not to win, although it seems that he does win most of the time. So I have doubts he'll flee the scene.

I recall earlier when Natsu said he was afraid that he wouldn't get to fight Hades to avenge Makarov. Since Hades is the guild leader and Bluenote is around second-in-command, Natsu looks like he's going to go for it. I think that Hades is probably more powerful, so if Natsu can't defeat Bluenote, he has no chances of defeating Hades. (Or if Bluenote is more powerful, then. . . Well, whatever.)

I'm not saying he should or can defeat him, I'm just saying that's the order of things here.

Well, unless Gildartz comes back, yeah?

LoS
April 19, 2011, 06:40 PM
The good thing is that Hades is not laughing it off and is actually getting serious now that his guild is losing.

No this is wrong. He is merely surprised that the brats of FT are able to defeat members of the 7 Kin whom know Lost Magic. He personally isn't serious, in fact his is actually saddened and reluctant. He is disappointed that to accomplish his goal of retrieving Zeref and defeating Fairy Tail he had to resort to unleashing a monstrous power, something that is not very fair in his mind. He had hoped that the 7 Kin would prove capable but they were not. Hence his sigh, indicating having Bluenote go isn't something he would have normally wanted, and also from his line I guess I was too late, he wanted to persuade Bluenote to not head to the battlefield.


People need to realize something here, Cana is searching for the grave for the sole reason that it is the goal of the test. She needs to find the grave to obtain S-Class status. The grave is not what she wanted to see prior to this exam. The grave is not her father. Some posters have pointed this out, but far too many people are still confused.

Now, the S-Class status part is still incredibly dull. Just by obtaining a new title but not a significant boost in power is supposed to make her Father accept her. Even if the Father told her come find me when you become an S-Class mage it is still very droll. But sadly it is becoming more and more evident that she will receive a power boost. With Bluenote unleashed and heading toward the grave along with Mavis' spirit/aura illuminating the grave Cana will most likely receive some power boost from the grave to deal with Bluenote for the time being, but I really hope the power boost won't be permanent.


As some others have pointed out the line about flying from Bluenote most likely has no connection at all to Dragon Slayers, but rather his own power of Gravity. I don't take his personality to be the kind which taunts and makes fun of the opposition, he seems very serious and remorseful even. He seems to recognize that he has incredibly power and works efficiently in getting the job done.


A minor few posters have remarked on the Levy vs. Rustyrose fight, and yes it is definitely built up for Levy to be victorious. Levy being crafty and intelligent will make use of her power to find a loophole in Rusty's magic and overcome his cocky/overconfident personality. Mashima has been blatantly mashing the idea of hope, and teamwork down our throats. Levy will defeat someone who vastly outclasses her and has superior magical power.


This arc is extremely close to the conclusion, I am afraid we will not get to see a lengthy or detailed fight between Azuma and Ezra. Both of whom have already fought, but both had early endings to their fights. Ezra's fight never really got started or fully serious and was interrupted. Azuma's fight was cut short due to Mira's endurance, she was full power but couldn't maintain it long enough to continue the fight. The arc is being set up for only Urtear to be the sole member of the Kin to go undefeated this arc.


One thing to note that no one has been able to wrap their head around is what exactly Bluenote did last time Hades unleashed him? Hades is incredibly reluctant to unleash Bluenote due to his vast power. Hades as he has admitted is the type to take things in stride and wanted to be entertained watching his guild members fight. He could have easily killed literally every single person on the island within minutes, but chose not to. I can't see the reasoning being something so trivial as Hades didn't want to use Bluenote because it would be over all too quickly and not entertain him enough. But it certainly appears this is the reason.


Last bit. But why do people believe Bluenote and Cana are related? Is it simply because he has dark hair like her? Is it because of the coincidence of them both aiming for the grave? Is it because him revealing he knows about Mavis and the grave indicates he has a connection to Fairy Tail? As of now they are all just suppositions, and none of which are very concrete at all.

Askia32
April 19, 2011, 07:37 PM
I don't care that Natsu got help from others in order to beat two strong opponents, Jellal and Zero. These are fights he shouldn't have been able to win. It's just too much. Jellal was a wizard saint, Zero was the master of OS and much more stronger than Brain. And Natsu defeated them.Heck, why didn't Natsu get a title of Wizard Saint then if defeated one? It's just suitable, right? I really really hope Mashima doesn't ruin this arc by giving Natsu WTF power-up.

All of Natsu's opponents from now on are probably going to be around that level or higher. So what do you want the main character to do? Not fight and twittle his thumbs or just get owned every fight till the manga ends?

kkck
April 19, 2011, 07:43 PM
Well, to be fair the seven kin were grossly outnumbered. From the chapter I got the impression that hades was more disappointed in the fighting coming to an end rather than the seven kin being defeated though. He was laughing pretty hard about it just a few chapters ago.

1337 haxor
April 19, 2011, 09:47 PM
Well, to be fair the seven kin were grossly outnumbered. From the chapter I got the impression that hades was more disappointed in the fighting coming to an end rather than the seven kin being defeated though. He was laughing pretty hard about it just a few chapters ago.

Hades was the former master of FT, he knows that his former guild doesn't kill their opponents unless under extreme circunstances.

For that reason seeing his own pupils getting knocked out was like watching WFF on Saturday night where people beat each other in a display of art.

Bluenote is like bringing the Undertaker to a battle of mid-weighted fighters, he will utterly crush them all without barely feeling their strongest blows. In other words it takes the fun out of the show while making it a lot bloodier.

Hades came hoping that the Seven kin would simply come and trumph each of their opponents on a fair match which would be an honorful victory for Grimmoire Heart.

Bluenote makes that victory quite pyrrhic as it meant that Hades lost most of his troops and had to apelate in order to win.

It's exactly the same reason why he didn't crushed FT by himself, there is a thing in the FT world that is called guild honor and that is measured by how well the whole of your guild can cope up with it's goals.

To explain it better imagine that Makarov and Guildartz decided that they should take care of every hard mission FT receives because beings of their strenght doesn't need to delegate resposabilities to lesser guild members.

You know what would happen to Fairy Tail?

It would become a joke, every other guild would say "Look at those lechers of Makarov and Guildartz" and "Hey morons! How are your parents sustaining you today?".

There wouldn't be a point in having a guild if only a couple people in it were responsible for everything, in fact this is exactly why Laxus went mad in the first place.

He saw his guild acting like a bunch of fools and bearing all the burden of keeping it's name up to high regards all by himself.

So, in a nutshell, whenever Hades uses Bluenote it's like admiting that Grimmoire Heart is only powerful because it has juggernauts like the deputy commander and guild master who can sigle-handedly succed in destroying everything when the rest prove useless.

ShoobyDooBop
April 19, 2011, 10:19 PM
All of Natsu's opponents from now on are probably going to be around that level or higher. So what do you want the main character to do? Not fight and twittle his thumbs or just get owned every fight till the manga ends?

You don't get what I mean. Well, I guess I can't explain it properly.

This:
Ero-Sanji's post

It's wrong when it happens every single time with the same character since it brings forth an inconvenient predictability. That's why I prefer Erza's and Gray's battles over Natsu's. The Neji and Byakuya aren't that good examples, no? That's like saying Lucy is getting help from her spirits(which she does but they are her spirits fueled by her magic). Hollow and Kyuubi are their powers just like Dragon force etcetera but etherion and flame of rebuke and so on are given power-ups.

I don't have a problem with outside help, it's great when it's nicely done but not in situation when it appears forced, unnecessary and illogical.

LoS
April 19, 2011, 10:36 PM
Hades came hoping that the Seven kin would simply come and trumph each of their opponents on a fair match which would be an honorful victory for Grimmoire Heart.

Bluenote makes that victory quite pyrrhic as it meant that Hades lost most of his troops and had to apelate in order to win.

It's exactly the same reason why he didn't crushed FT by himself, there is a thing in the FT world that is called guild honor and that is measured by how well the whole of your guild can cope up with it's goals.

Ha, these points are the same I posted above from reading the Hades and Bluenote panels this chapter.


Well, to be fair the seven kin were grossly outnumbered. From the chapter I got the impression that hades was more disappointed in the fighting coming to an end rather than the seven kin being defeated though. He was laughing pretty hard about it just a few chapters ago.

Yep, it has all been for his entertainment thus far. He's disappointed it all comes to an end now that Bluenote is taking action.

Askia32
April 19, 2011, 11:56 PM
You don't get what I mean. Well, I guess I can't explain it properly.

This:
Ero-Sanji's post

It's wrong when it happens every single time with the same character since it brings forth an inconvenient predictability. That's why I prefer Erza's and Gray's battles over Natsu's. The Neji and Byakuya aren't that good examples, no? That's like saying Lucy is getting help from her spirits(which she does but they are her spirits fueled by her magic). Hollow and Kyuubi are their powers just like Dragon force etcetera but etherion and flame of rebuke and so on are given power-ups.

I don't have a problem with outside help, it's great when it's nicely done but not in situation when it appears forced, unnecessary and illogical.

I'm confused now. So you just don't like it when Natsu wins with help?

ShoobyDooBop
April 20, 2011, 12:02 AM
I don't like it when he gets a WTF power-up or do an asspull. I guess it's just me who don't like it.

BTW, that's one epic sig you have.

Zeltrax
April 20, 2011, 03:52 AM
I don't think it's just you, I hate to see him winning another round this arc.
I'll accept it if its rusty/azuma or urtear, but no bluenote or hades.
And natsu hasn't learnt anything yet.

swordsaintscoot
April 20, 2011, 07:57 AM
its like people can't just accept that with each arc he gets stronger. Getting stronger isn't an asspull, its natural progression. It'd be boring watching training sessions. they're implied to happen.

What do you want to happen though? Natsu get weaker and the fights get progressively more boring?

Ero-Sanji
April 20, 2011, 08:28 AM
its like people can't just accept that with each arc he gets stronger. Getting stronger isn't an asspull, its natural progression. It'd be boring watching training sessions. they're implied to happen.

What do you want to happen though? Natsu get weaker and the fights get progressively more boring?

But you see that is the problem, his growth gets hidden behind power-ups after power-ups. Personally, his fights are already getting more and more boring and very predictable: He fights an opponent that's too strong, gets beaten, rises, eats something and finish it big. I wish for once that he could beat someone like he did against the barrier dude in the Moon drip island, by his own brains and brawns.

I'm with you though, no training sessions those are even worse than random and forced power-ups. This arc was however built up in a way that made it sound like FT is going to get f'd up, I just feel a little cheated. But that's normal, an author can't please everybody all the time. Furthermore, I'm ready for Erza vs Azuma, there's a woman who can fight, just hope we can skip her special eye this arc:p

ca12nag3
April 20, 2011, 08:34 AM
I'm scared because she didn't do that much against Gazeel nor for Gazeel. She did well but I'm not impressed and I wouldn't bet on her against a 7 Kin, especially not this one. .

I dont think this is fair. Levy as well as all the S-Class candidates have a fair shot at becomming S-Class so shes not that far off from being good enough to do a S-Class quest.
Saying that i mean that she has the overall capacity. This means that her combined skills both combat, intelligence and determination have what it takes.
Its just that the physicaly strong mages are more impressive but this does not mean they are stronger then those that use their brains, matter of fact most of the time they lose cause they lack the ability to look thrue the oponents traps and where the oponent is weakest.
(i guess that makes Erza the most complete mage there is :D but thats besides the point :P).

If Levy uses all her skills im sure she can preform equally as all the other candidates like Elfman,Gray and Natsu. So her chance to win is there.

You Say
April 20, 2011, 08:55 AM
Great chapter. Bluenote reminds me some characters from Groove Adventure Rave. And in my opinion It's awesome how "not so pretty" he is. And It would be epic if Mavis rises from grave and begins to assembling some strong mages. We would get another powerful side besides Grimoire Heart, Fairy Tail, Council, Tartaros and Raven Tail. Long future for Fairy Tail.
For the next few chapters, I hope that Hades will assemble all the kins back on ship and gets away with Zeref. I would love to see rematch between Natsu and Zancrow (yes I find Zancrow as a good character and his fight with Natsu was really good in my eyes), Elfman and Rustyrose, Mirajane and Asuma etc.
I like how Mashima starts one thing in some arc and begins consecrate on it later. Like he done with Laxus's rebellion, Mystogan's identity, whole that Gildarts foreshadowing thing. I like this style. So It would be nice if this conflict would be solved in future.

Mashiro_Luna
April 20, 2011, 08:07 PM
Awesome chapter, glad to see Asuma and Erza facing off, should be an epic fight. I think Rustyrose deserves a fight with a strong character instead of the 'weaker' Fairy Tail members. I like Bluenote's design, I was expecting to see someone that looked like Admiral Zhao from Avater: The Last Airbender but I like his somewhat 'ugly' design and his Gravity magic is kickass.

I'm not sure if this has been asked yet but does anybody know what it says on the back of Bluenote's jacket?

saya1987
April 20, 2011, 09:42 PM
I'm not sure if this has been asked yet but does anybody know what it says on the back of Bluenote's jacket?

that is the kanji word for blue.

Mashiro_Luna
April 20, 2011, 10:53 PM
^Thanks, thought it might be a little more interesting then that though. With the coat he kind of reminded me of an admiral for One Piece.

LoS
April 21, 2011, 12:36 AM
the dude is like 40+ years old. Heck he might even be older than Ivan and Gildartz.

goldb
April 21, 2011, 03:56 AM
He should be round about the same age, but that doesn't mean he's related to Cana. Cana's plans just seem to coincide with where Bluenote is going (Mavis' grave), someone else mentioned she's just following the rules for the S-class exams. If it was for her to find a shoe, she woulda been somewhere completly different :p.

I'm personally looking forward to the Azuma vs Erza fight; a fight between powerhouses are always interesting. On the other hand, Natsu and co shouldn't be able to stop Bluenote because theyre weakened and he needs to progress so the story can advance and we can find out what he wants with the grave.

ShoobyDooBop
April 21, 2011, 05:02 AM
To be honest, I'm a bit surprised that ppl are really looking forward to Erza and Azuma fight. I thought that some of you be against it. I look forward to it as well.

Ero-Sanji
April 21, 2011, 06:52 AM
I dont think this is fair. Levy as well as all the S-Class candidates have a fair shot at becomming S-Class so shes not that far off from being good enough to do a S-Class quest.
Saying that i mean that she has the overall capacity. This means that her combined skills both combat, intelligence and determination have what it takes.
Its just that the physicaly strong mages are more impressive but this does not mean they are stronger then those that use their brains, matter of fact most of the time they lose cause they lack the ability to look thrue the oponents traps and where the oponent is weakest.
(i guess that makes Erza the most complete mage there is :D but thats besides the point :P).

If Levy uses all her skills im sure she can preform equally as all the other candidates like Elfman,Gray and Natsu. So her chance to win is there.

I didn't say she doesn't have a chance but that her slight chance to actually win is what I'm afraid of.

Let me explain why: Levy is smart and all that, I know that but at the moment she is up against a guy that took both Elfman and Evergreen out without getting hurt. Does this mean it's impossible for Levy to win? No, but judging from how she fought against the "demons" she didn't do anything outstanding that this battle actually requires. The only way I can see her, Lily and Lisanna win is by some ass-pull ancient spell that she has, that in some way power's up animals or something like that, much like how Lucy won against Angel.

Now I understand that she might find some weak spot but that would require that she uses a lot of spells to test his powers and keep him and his beast(s) away or/and while she is studying him Lisanna and Lily will fight him. However, seeing how easily he took care of Elfman and Evergreen I can't see how those two would fair against him. Lastly, the good side has a major weakness at the moment. They are tired. Lisanna said that all of them were exhausted to the limit.

Hadn't it been for this major point I would have been for a sort of intelligent plan to defeat him but at the moment I can't see a victory unless it's forced and illogical or silly, like Levy writing lightning or electricity and due to the rain zaps everyone, however seeing how the arc of embodiment works he should be able to make a rubber suit:p

Nonlife
April 21, 2011, 05:15 PM
I won't be surprised if Cana's dad is a member of Grimoire Heart, possibly BlueNote, b/c I can't tolerate a casual "family reunion" after all the risks she's taken.

FaerieoftheSea
April 21, 2011, 08:37 PM
I don't see why Bluenote could be Cana's father. Cana is really trying to prove herself to her father, and that means he won't accept her readily. If he meets her, it's by accident. Cana wants to become an S-Class in order to meet her father. Honestly, the particular mission of finding the grave from Bluenote has nothing to do with her becoming an S-Class and meeting her father to me. If he was her father, he wouldn't go to the grave or the S-Class trials because he wouldn't care about meeting her. It's all about how she has to prove herself to him.

Although if Bluenote -was- her father, I believe him wanting to find the grave would be mere coincidence, and not to mention his status in Grimoire Heart sort of requires him to be there.

That's what I think. :D

saya1987
April 22, 2011, 02:03 AM
Personally, I find the following theories are absurd:
-bluenote is related to cana
-Cana is related to mavis

Just because they're both searching for the grave doesn't mean that they're related. Cana is only doing that to pass her exam and bluenote probably wants revenge. I don't think bluenote wants power because hades would've wanted it for himself.

Personally, another thing that intrigued me is the lack of mages that are of the same age group as bluenote. So far, I can only think of gildarts, macao, wakaba, layla, ichiya, ivan, ur. Even then, I would say some are actually quite young.

Before Marakov became the 2nd master of FT, he used to have a team(it was shown in a photo which includes Porlyusica and some others.) but I'm sure the guild should have more mages than that but where did they go?

Presumably, everyone is either retired or dead except gildarts and bluenote. This kinda make them seem like loners...haha, okay, I rambled tooo much.

LoS
April 22, 2011, 03:22 AM
kinda hard to have a team when your power is so destructive. They are better suited working alone.

FaerieoftheSea
April 22, 2011, 10:06 PM
One of Charle's visions involved Cana on her knees, crying. I checked between that outfit and the one she's wearing when she visits the grave and they're the exact same. It doesn't necessarily mean that'll happen now, but I think Charle's second vision is about to come true. This whole grave thing seems pretty big. I have no idea why she would cry unless Bluenote was there torturing her or something. . . Unless she meets her father? (I have no idea why that would happen. I don't think it's Mavis.)

I don't think Cana would cry because a grave would be glowing, so it seems like something pretty important. Like a person.

[Edit]: Also! Lisanna says Natsu thinks he'd be able to meet Igneel if he was S-Class. Maybe we're thinking (or at least I'm thinking) about this the wrong way. Not that her father doesn't care about her, or that he told her to become S-Class. What if her father is like Igneel and can't be reached? Or she has to finally put faith into her power by being classified as S-Class and will know she'd be able to save him from something or other?

[Editx2]: Going to refresh our minds. Apparently Cana told Lucy about her whole story -- her obsession with becoming S-Class and wanting to meet her father. Lucy apparently thought it was strong enough to join with Cana. Perhaps this understanding allowed Cana to knock Lucy out, although I'm not positively sure about the whole thing at all.

[Editx3]: (This whole going through and re-reading manga pages helps tons.) Makarov said Mavis "sleeps" on the island. I wonder if this is nifty word-play, or perhaps a subtle hint of foreshadowing?

Akasunanosasori
April 23, 2011, 06:11 AM
I want to see bluenote vs gildartz or laxus !!!!

Skyguardian
April 23, 2011, 07:47 AM
I want to see bluenote vs gildartz or laxus !!!!

Well I HOPE for Natsu to loose this battle. The whole group doesn't stand a chance against such a powerful Magic user.
Even Dragonforce should be crushed.

The only person capable of fighting Blutnote might be Gildartz... But I can't imagine him win. Furthermore it's unclear how he'll even get back on the Island.

ShoobyDooBop
April 23, 2011, 04:47 PM
Personally, I find the following theories are absurd:
-bluenote is related to cana
-Cana is related to mavis

Just because they're both searching for the grave doesn't mean that they're related. Cana is only doing that to pass her exam and bluenote probably wants revenge. I don't think bluenote wants power because hades would've wanted it for himself.

Personally, another thing that intrigued me is the lack of mages that are of the same age group as bluenote. So far, I can only think of gildarts, macao, wakaba, layla, ichiya, ivan, ur. Even then, I would say some are actually quite young.

Before Marakov became the 2nd master of FT, he used to have a team(it was shown in a photo which includes Porlyusica and some others.) but I'm sure the guild should have more mages than that but where did they go?

Presumably, everyone is either retired or dead except gildarts and bluenote. This kinda make them seem like loners...haha, okay, I rambled tooo much.

It's 3rd Master of Ft.

Isn't Goldmine and Bob the other two in Makarov's old team?

Josl
April 23, 2011, 05:00 PM
Even Dragonforce should be crushed.


Isn't Dragonforce the equivalent of the Power of a Dragon? If it is the case than none Magic user should be able to defeat Natsu. A Dragon defeated Gildarts without him being able to do a thing

Skyguardian
April 23, 2011, 06:00 PM
Isn't Dragonforce the equivalent of the Power of a Dragon? If it is the case than none Magic user should be able to defeat Natsu. A Dragon defeated Gildarts without him being able to do a thing

Still his fight against Zero was rather hard. Bluenote should tie down Natsu in a easy way with his gravity powers.
In terms of strength Bluenote is in a different league than most of Fairy Tail members.

Apache2813
April 23, 2011, 06:08 PM
Isn't Dragonforce the equivalent of the Power of a Dragon?
Dragonforce is also band :P
btw i guys just a random fact i'm pretty sure Azuma will join Fairy Tail he's a complete recycle of Let from Rave Master which did exactly the same thing in Rave Master (Mashima's first manga series)
and i also agree that Bluenote is the man Kana is searching for he just appeared out of nothing and we don't know anything about him. isn't is strange?

Kuzumikun
April 23, 2011, 06:17 PM
Rustyrose will definitely loose against Levy,Lisana and Lilly. It will teach him that power is not only something you need to overcome your enemy, but also teamwork and strategy. He probably will feel like a weakling when he looses since they are not as strong as Natsu or Erza :D.

Shiro Tsuki
April 24, 2011, 05:15 AM
Rustyrose will lose -_

I mean the fact that a bad guy has beaten the crap out of good guys in FT is like a huge thing!
Besting off other FT members will be like 'way too evil' for Hiro! :D
The whole strategy is cliché but it will work - The evil creator pitted against the one sweet but intelligent girl...

Really - I hope no one from GH gets in FT!
Frankly - am done with FT accepting all those they beat in pulp - what is FT? a rehab??...o0

And again!
Please - do not raise your hopes on Bluenote! Are you people reading the same manga I am?!
I am hefty sure he'll be taken by Gild/Erza/Laxus! Tho am really expecting a huge plothole detailing how Gild/Laxus will reach in the island!

HAH! :D
Re read the manga...
At about page 6-7 - You see Natsu and others arrogantly spewing that they'll handle whatever comes with 'all their might'!
Yeah right! Just then to be crushed in few minutes later!! :P

Lozmaster
April 24, 2011, 07:11 AM
I can't help but laugh a bit at the people saying gildartz can't take Bluenote. No wonder some people get dissapointed, you hype the enemies to levels far above what you should, and then when reality of how fairy tail is written comes crashing down on you, you complain.

Akasunanosasori
April 24, 2011, 05:48 PM
Tbh I don't even think that Goldartz will face bluenote... Maybe laxus will take care of him cuz srsly he is a beast and they showed his face when makarove was defeated. So it's one of the two Laxus vs hades or laxus vs bluenote.

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 05:01 AM
I can't help but laugh a bit at the people saying gildartz can't take Bluenote. No wonder some people get dissapointed, you hype the enemies to levels far above what you should, and then when reality of how fairy tail is written comes crashing down on you, you complain.

Well said, we also have to keep in mind to which age gruop the manga is directed 13+ mostly teens which would not really be hyped by character deaths (although i wanna see a tearful scene which would be most epic) and their 'hero's' losing i rather think they prefer Natsu and co. winning in some weird cool way.

keeping that in mind i'm happy with how FT is going and totally hyped for Cana's backstory which will hopefully clear as to why she's being so as you guys put it 'idiotic, stupid' etc. Still she's a good person and regardless of what she did till now (abandoning Lucy who got almost killed bla bla bla) i don't want to say she's trash yet...(and Lucy is my fav. female character so...) still she deserves a chance looking back to phantom arc and so ^^

Also speaking of Lucy...she and her mum are fishy hmmm Capricorn might explain something hopefully! and Lucy is yet to do the important part she said she'd play in the beginning of the arc...i doubt its a nice vacation in some resort although a 'Lucy saving the day' is not usual it seems it's something along that lines

takarita
April 25, 2011, 09:18 AM
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RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 09:22 AM
and the second premonition is on! thanks takarita! i need to learn japanese though haha

I'm guessing mavis gave Cana a piece of his mind finally she's back to being herself ^^ no backstroy though seems some mysteries are revealed yay!

also Charle and Happy are so cute in human form =D

ghostexiled
April 25, 2011, 09:24 AM
Looks as if Cana has a break-down after realizing what an ass she has been to her friends and guild... and ends with her determined to help out her friends from the onslaught of GH.

Also noted... looks as if we have finally seen all the "Foreseen" images that Charlie had. Natsu crying... check. Hand on the ground... check? Cana crying... check.

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 09:27 AM
Looks as if Cana has a break-down after realizing what an ass she has been to her friends and guild... and ends with her determine to help out her friends from the onslaught of GH.

True she's been a b**** but she still can redeem herself, oh and she grabbed something from the grave what do you reckon it is, i hope she hasnt magically become S-class... :-_-

edit; i think the natsu crying hasnt happened yet when he cried cuz he lost against gildarts was too different from the premonition one while cana crying and lucy's hand where almost identical

sarutobi_sensei
April 25, 2011, 09:28 AM
In my book, she's not cleared yet. She needs to get a spanking in the ass.

I wonder if Mavis says something to her.

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 09:31 AM
In my book, she's not cleared yet. She needs to get a spanking in the ass.

I wonder if Mavis says something to her.

GH will definitely make sure of that believe me whatever she grabbed cant help her THAT much and i hope mavis did talk to her that would be tres creepy and cool xD

sarutobi_sensei
April 25, 2011, 09:44 AM
Why would it be very creepy? It was bound to happen xD

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 09:52 AM
Why would it be very creepy? It was bound to happen xD

well yes but when has a talking dead person been NOT creepy or a talking gravestone xD?

also who thinks Lucy and cana are going to have a slap, cry and hug moment? summarised here;
lucy: *realises what cana did* YOU duuegodoae *slap*
Cana: o.O sorry
Lucy and Cana: *hug and cry*
Bad guy: -.-" shots them *lucy takes shot heroically*
Natsu: *goes into god mode* no touchy my woman!
lolz

saya1987
April 25, 2011, 10:09 AM
at least we know bluenote is probably searching for whatever cana grabbed.

possible scenerios:
-lucy brings bluenote to the grave and he goes crazy when he realises whatever he wants isn't there.
-cana running into team levy or gray but I don't think she'll meet with team natsu


Personally, I don't really like the development of cana's part. It's like hiro dragged it for a few pages and then, suddenly, rushed through everything. Cana stared at a fricking tomb for so many pages and then within 2 pages, she had an epiphany that she needs to help her nakama.


I hope this chapter focuses more on team natsu than on erza,gray or cana. Gray's part is getting boring because it was dragged for too long and I don't really care whether Ultear is being truthful or not. (Well, I think she is and at some point, she will fight gray when he disagree with her pov or that he refuse to help her).

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 10:15 AM
at least we know bluenote is probably searching for whatever cana grabbed.

possible scenerios:
-lucy brings bluenote to the grave and he goes crazy when he realises whatever he wants isn't there.
-cana running into team levy or gray but I don't think she'll meet with team natsu
.

well thats another mystery we need to solve what did Cana our unusually sober friend take from the tomb and yep bluenote wants that most probably

why lucy takes bluenote?
Its most probable she meets team nastu eventually since Lucy has to yet play the imp part she said in the arcs beginning which i think revolves around Cana

Cana's epiphany i still think mavis talked some sense into that alcoholically maimed brain of hers...still i want to give her a chance she deserves it

team natsu is certainly more interesting since it vs bluenote wonder how they'll survive :/

Baka_Sousui
April 25, 2011, 10:16 AM
I don't know about the rest of you, but to be honest Cana still remains one of my fav fairy tail girls. Sure you a lot of you hate Cana now, how many of you hated Laxus when he was attempting to destroy the guild and make it a new?

Back to the spoilers. It seems obvious she did retrieve something. Also I'm quite sure that something was communicated to her by Mavis in some form or another. It's not like this is the first story where the dead has communicated with the living, also this is a story about magic, so it can in various forms go beyond that of logic. I wonder if we can finally see Cana's magic at full strength. The kind where she is pushed deep into the corner and suddenly releases something unimaginable like Natsu usually does.
Situation power ups it's the driving force of mangas and animes.

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 10:21 AM
Cana did some stupid things but till now i think she has a reason for it and she's still in my top fav ft girls ^^ i dont hate her and i'm sure most of us dont rather they hate what she did but she's seen sense finally (i hope, spoilers seem to indicate so) and we might want to wait to read the chapter until we say its rushed saya1987, just saying, cuz you're probably right, but i want to read chapter first

hope we do get some Zeref info though!

Razh
April 25, 2011, 10:34 AM
So, what, Cana is now like - OMG I TOTALLY MISREAD THE SITUATION BWAAAAAA :'(

Really hope those words in text clouds are convincing.

ca12nag3
April 25, 2011, 10:41 AM
Difference between night and day as i read the comments on Cana, where i first got massive critisism for telling everyone to wait and see how things develop with Cana.

Im glad we get more about it now and well see what the grave can realy do... seems to be something realy powerfull? Can it tell the heart of a person?

saya1987
April 25, 2011, 10:44 AM
why lucy takes bluenote?
Its most probable she meets team nastu eventually since Lucy has to yet play the imp part she said in the arcs beginning which i think revolves around Cana:/

Because Lucy is the only one who knew the location of the grave and she'll probably do that to save everyone. Of course, this wouldn't happen if natsu beats bluenote or if someone helps them. Then again, lucy could be sly enough to bring bluenote everywhere but the location of the grave.

Anyway, if Cana runs into bluenote, this pretty much signifies the end of the arc because bluenote will just leave after he obtains the item that cana grabbed. Secondly, we'll just see cana defeated if she runs into bluenote. There's no chance for her to shine at all! I would rather she meets up with levy and help them out since lisanna is relying too much on natsu. (GRRR, this really annoyed me btw.)

:-_- Initially, I like Cana's development but right now, her change is too abrupt. Okay, may it's not if you compare her to ultear.

Shadow Limiter
April 25, 2011, 10:46 AM
I have a feeling that Mavis give some sort of power or new ability to Cana because as much as i know Cana didn't have any "tattoo" on her right arm (the one we see in the last page). She did use her right arm to try to touch the light in Mavis grave (maybe thats why her shirt is torn-off as well), so maybe Mavis sense something in her and grants her power (or an ability to use high class spells similar to the "Fariy Law" or "Urano Metria").

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 10:46 AM
one thing for sure it isn't something small and we keep forgetting something Cana is human and humans make mistakes maybe Mashima wants to show his readers that mistakes can be righted?

the grave may react to the feelings of the person or yeah maybe the heart/soul and give them power? still i hope Cana doesnt get some massive power up i would rather she develops slowly like Lucy has been doing

saya1987
April 25, 2011, 10:48 AM
I doubt cana will be gettin a powerup since she isn't one of the main characters. HAHA, for you know, she may really run into bluenote and give the powerup to natsu!

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 10:53 AM
Because Lucy is the only one who knew the location of the grave and she'll probably do that to save everyone. Of course, this wouldn't happen if natsu beats bluenote or if someone helps them. Then again, lucy could be sly enough to bring bluenote everywhere but the location of the grave.

Anyway, if Cana runs into bluenote, this pretty much signifies the end of the arc because bluenote will just leave after he obtains the item that cana grabbed. Secondly, we'll just see cana defeated if she runs into bluenote. There's no chance for her to shine at all! I would rather she meets up with levy and help them out since lisanna is relying too much on natsu. (GRRR, this really annoyed me btw.)

:-_- Initially, I like Cana's development but right now, her change is too abrupt. Okay, may it's not if you compare her to ultear.

you have big point and i have been pwned xD i bow down to you

Lucy can be intelligent at times and its plausible for her to act hero you know the good old 'i dont want to be worthless anymore' *sigh* she's not ofc she's just a beginner but she thinks she's weak and her lowish self esteem of her powers creates problems as well as her being out of magic now

@shadow limiter
the tattoo i didnt notice it *facepalm* so Cana might have got a powerup :S curiosity is killing me!!!

@saya1987
Natsu getting a powerup again would be annoying, i think she's keeping it haha does that tattoo mean she's s-class now? :s

vortex
April 25, 2011, 10:53 AM
From what i can read without squinting:

boy-girl flower pic

Kindness is the "magical power" of revealing one's trueself!!

2nd pic

aaaaaah!

Wasn't (Something.. got cut off, cant see) BUS!

I didn't mean to betray my friends!

no...

I don't mind not becoming an S class mage...

I don't mind not being able to (let my feelings) reach out to Dad...

Above all... I want to protect my friends (nakama)!


Last pic

The return of the "heart" that was stolen!
The passion that rushes out towards friends, the strength that illuminates FT!

Because it's 12 years worth of payback in kindness!
Everyone at fairytail!

ghostexiled
April 25, 2011, 10:54 AM
Cana's situation has never been about malice intent towards her guild. It is simply a matter of the human condition.

I hate to pull the age card here... but unless you have experienced a situation where you wish to accomplish 2 things, in Cana's case be S-ranked and be loyal to her friends, that end up conflicting with each other... you can't understand the workings behind her actions to its intended purpose.

No 2 people are the same... sure this is a manga and it is riddled with templates of your typical shounen characters... but the fact that Cana is able to grasp her wrong doings in a matter of pause, is in no way unrealistic.

Some people can get they screwed up right away... where others continue to be blinded by their ambitions. Unaware of the damage they cause.

I for one never saw Cana's actions as bad... it was simply a matter of a person who lost sight of the things that mattered the most. :)

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 10:57 AM
Wasn't (Something.. got cut off, cant see) BUS!



everything seems to coincide but that makes no sense really bus? *tilts head confused* so cana is talking to someone ie mavis no doubt

@ghostexiled totally agree with you although her actions were somewhat wrong what you said is very true and maybe this in a way makes me love Cana's character more

kkck
April 25, 2011, 11:00 AM
Did cana always have that huge tatoo on her arm? Wonder if whatever she found at the grave will help against bluenote....

Krono
April 25, 2011, 11:01 AM
and Lucy is yet to do the important part she said she'd play in the beginning of the arc...i doubt its a nice vacation in some resort although a 'Lucy saving the day' is not usual it seems it's something along that lines

I'd say what she was talking about was A) being Cana's partner of all people, and B) being the one to figure out where the grave was.

vortex
April 25, 2011, 11:01 AM
everything seems to coincide but that makes no sense really bus? *tilts head confused* so cana is talking to someone ie mavis no doubt

@ghostexiled totally agree with you although her actions were somewhat wrong what you said is very true and maybe this in a way makes me love Cana's character more

the 'bus' thing is a word that's cut off i think... from what i can make out.. so it doesn't really mean 'bus' .. it can be the 2nd syllable of "members" or some other similar word.. it got cut off so i really dunno... .

I'm not sure if she's talking to someone though... she might be talking to the grave or just thinking out loud...

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 11:05 AM
i dont think so i mean levy could have figured that out right? i think its something a bit more say juicy maybe she'll sacrifice herself or has to do smething with hades or zeref lolz maybe hades is her grandfather now that would be unexpected lool

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 11:07 AM
oh sorry okay that makes sense now xD
Cana basically lost it? :/ something must have happened though to make her see the 'light' pardon the pun

edit; now that i look at the arm tattoo it looks like a new ft guild mark tres cool!

edit 2: could it be the grave showed her what will happen because of her actions? like her friend dieing/getting hurt, zeref reawakening etc?

swordsaintscoot
April 25, 2011, 11:55 AM
Fairy tails fans is one of the biggest reasons I don't like to partake in speculation. It hypes us up for something that might never happen, and we inevitably get disappointed that the author had a different idea to us. In the end, we are the readers, just read and appreciate what the author has to offer.

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 12:00 PM
true true but we must remember that the manga is not of our making discussing it is nothing bad, making up our own theories isnt either getting hyped up for them is normal but if we're wrong there's nothing to be disappointing about, i mean ive been wrong countless of times but Mashima's story was better than my crazy ideas

swordsaintscoot
April 25, 2011, 12:08 PM
true true but we must remember that the manga is not of our making discussing it is nothing bad, making up our own theories isnt either getting hyped up for them is normal but if we're wrong there's nothing to be disappointing about, i mean ive been wrong countless of times but Mashima's story was better than my crazy ideas

i dont disagree, sometimes its fine, but theories and speculation are different. Theories usually have substantial evidence. For instance, i DO partake in a lot of theorising about Kingdom Hearts. Speculation is different because it allows you to get caught in your OWN sense of whats going on.

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 12:13 PM
well i guess you're right ^^' we have different opinions though thats normal xD kingdom heart i love haha okay my lucy is hades granddaughter is obviously speculation =P but if i have a hunch that lucy and zeref are connected someway and maashima goes another way i dont mind ^^

thoeries are fun, speculations are bound to be dissappointing yes im a ft fan but i wont let my thoeries or speculation ruin the manga for me as i said

ca12nag3
April 25, 2011, 12:17 PM
Something that cannot be confirmed now but most likely is the cause is this.

She has a strong feeling to her dad, most likely he didnt give her the attention she needed when growing up, her dad must be someone focused on power. Perhaps being S-Class makes her worthy in her dads eyes.
So her good intention of making daddy proud of her has lingerd on from childhood to adulthood, and thus shes making wrong decisions. Also note the absense of a mother mentioned.

Something similar is going on with Lucy, her dad only cares bout power and wealth however Lucy broke free from this past and still remembering her mom follows the footsteps her mom would wish shed make. (im sure of that).
Also in the context of the *bad father* Lucy more or less understands Cana but is in the same time already beyond the barrier Cana is now breaking.

Sidenote: its also likely that because Cana knows about how her dad hired Phantom etc etc she felt easier to talk about her reasons for becomming S-Class and Lucy decided to help her. All makes sense.

swordsaintscoot
April 25, 2011, 12:18 PM
nah its cool, im not one to impose my ideas or opinions on to others. Its just that around here you'll likely find yourself getting caught up in the disappointment lol, so contagious sometimes =P

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 12:30 PM
haha thanks ^^ i'll keep that in mind ive seen it before i joined ^^ so i'll try to be careful

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 12:34 PM
also explains why Cana asked about Lucy's dad in the beginning probably hearing that they dont really talk much caused her to open up to Lucy, maybe Lucy will help her and her father to make peace thus fulfilling her imp role?

it makes so much sense its scary xD we'll really laugh im sure at the end of the arc with all the stuff we thought would happen ='D

shuha27
April 25, 2011, 01:27 PM
well i guess you're right ^^' we have different opinions though thats normal xD kingdom heart i love haha okay my lucy is hades granddaughter is obviously speculation =P but if i have a hunch that lucy and zeref are connected someway and maashima goes another way i dont mind ^^

thoeries are fun, speculations are bound to be dissappointing yes im a ft fan but i wont let my thoeries or speculation ruin the manga for me as i said

I have to agree with your opinion. I think Lucy is connected to Zeref and the dragonslayers. I really can't wait for what Mashima has in store for her in the future.

I really hope the next chapter shows the fights with Azuma and Erza. I really want to know more about his magic.

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 01:36 PM
Azuma is cool and i cannot wait for his fight with erza which should be good but i find rustyrose's magic to be more intriguing although i'm more curious to see how he'll be defeated xD thanks for agreeing! something is definetely up i mean Lucy didnt even see zeref who was right in front of her and zeref was out so couldnt see Lucy which is weird lol
also is it me or does only natsu call lucy, Luce? --> sorry random moment xD

MyuuMyuu
April 25, 2011, 01:38 PM
Did cana always have that huge tatoo on her arm? Wonder if whatever she found at the grave will help against bluenote....

No i think she got it when she touched the grave or the light there was shown on the page.. she reached out to it. Might be some powerup magic she got from mavis?

jacke12
April 25, 2011, 02:07 PM
Looks as if Cana has a break-down after realizing what an ass she has been to her friends and guild... and ends with her determined to help out her friends from the onslaught of GH.

Also noted... looks as if we have finally seen all the "Foreseen" images that Charlie had. Natsu crying... check. Hand on the ground... check? Cana crying... check.

When did we saw Natsu crying i don't remember :huh

shuha27
April 25, 2011, 02:10 PM
@Jacke12 I think he is talking about the time Natsu fought Gildartz and knew he had no chance but I don't think that is the image Charle seen in her vision.

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 02:12 PM
he probably means this;
http://www.mangareader.net/135-58237-20/fairy-tail/chapter-206.html
but its too different from the premonition crying natsu was looking down here while in the premonition he was looking up to the left at something which must have scared or made him cry ^^

ca12nag3
April 25, 2011, 02:15 PM
When did we saw Natsu crying i don't remember :huh

chapter 206 page 20

http://www.goodmanga.net/fairy_tail/chapter/206/20

Its when Gildarts makes him realize he cant win and he starts crying.
[hr]

he probably means this;
http://www.mangareader.net/135-58237-20/fairy-tail/chapter-206.html
but its too different from the premonition crying natsu was looking down here while in the premonition he was looking up to the left at something which must have scared or made him cry ^^

you beat me to it haha, yea i think there will be another moment with Natsu since this is a sad look on his face, yet the crying in the premonition is out of anger and that hes ready to fight.

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 02:18 PM
chapter 206 page 20

http://www.goodmanga.net/fairy_tail/chapter/206/20

Its when Gildarts makes him realize he cant win and he starts crying.
<hr noshade size="1">


you beat me to it haha, yea i think there will be another moment with Natsu since this is a sad look on his face, yet the crying in the premonition is out of anger and that hes ready to fight.

=P XP yes, yes i did haha
http://www.mangareader.net/135-57514-18/fairy-tail/chapter-201.html
this is the premonition crying it rather seems sadness to me than anger but looking closely it could be both anywho it might be in this chapter cuz he looks like he's kneeling bluenotes doing? maybe he hurt someone from team natsu

shuha27
April 25, 2011, 02:18 PM
I think the LLL fight would be really interesting. The 2 underdogs of Fairy Tail I guess and a cat.....against Rustyrose, the dude who beat Elfman and Evergreen so easily. I really hope this isn't the last time we see both Azuma and Rustyrose. I really like both of their characters.

jacke12
April 25, 2011, 02:20 PM
I was thinking the same because the vision was different from the end of Natsu crying moment so I asked

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 02:21 PM
i really have taken a liking to most of GH especially meldy, as well as azuma, ultear and rustyrose, but seems to me that till now meldy is most probable to continue the tradition of joining ft thanks to juvia xD
LLL as in Lissana, levy and ?
edit; i forgot caprico already joined but didnt also juvia and gajeel join from before at same time maybe multiple joinings xD

shuha27
April 25, 2011, 02:26 PM
LLL = Lily, Lisanna, and Levy

Yeah same here I've take a liking to all the members. I really hope this isn't the last time we see them.

I don't think Meldy will join. I remember reading a post that said where ever Ultear goes is where Meldy stays and I have to agree with that. If Ultear joins FT (which I highly doubt) than maybe Meldy will follow but who knows maybe :)

97gsxminus1bolt
April 25, 2011, 02:28 PM
Natsu crying will probably be at the end when makarov dies. Because makarov has like no chance in surviving.

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 02:34 PM
LLL = Lily, Lisanna, and Levy

Yeah same here I've take a liking to all the members. I really hope this isn't the last time we see them.

I don't think Meldy will join. I remember reading a post that said where ever Ultear goes is where Meldy stays and I have to agree with that. If Ultear joins FT (which I highly doubt) than maybe Meldy will follow but who knows maybe :)

Oh lilly yes, i knew he was there and yet *facepalm*

maybe Ultear leaves and meldy decides that sticking to ft will help her find her again? but what you say i guess you're right as much as i wish she stays she was so adorable as a kid haha :D

Levy interests me too wish they'd do her past too, although next arc might be on lucy's mum unless its an ongoing topic like ellies memory was in rave

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 02:41 PM
I was thinking the same because the vision was different from the end of Natsu crying moment so I asked

yeah youre right lets compare and contrast;
http://www.mangareader.net/135-57514-18/fairy-tail/chapter-201.html

As we have seen from the hand:
http://www.mangareader.net/fairy-tail/225/19
and cana crying in the above spoilers thay are very similar if not identical to the premonition charle had right?

while this;
http://www.mangareader.net/135-58237...apter-206.html
is almost completely different apart from the fact Natsu is crying

wow Natsu will be crying more than once in an arc thats surprising :O

Makarov dieing is a possibility but i doubt it i think he'd probably be at least handicapped and will retire
[hr]
also I think it actually is mavis sending Cana a message from this;
http://www.mangareader.net/fairy-tail/231/23
'Mavis' light illuminates the unknown fate...'
still if she wasn't talking to him that light might have showed her something extremely scary from her expression

97gsxminus1bolt
April 25, 2011, 02:49 PM
I have zero faith in makarov living.

1st. He has already called for his grandson luxus which would be a waste otherwise.

2nd. He already was near death and was saved during the luxus rebellion arc.

3rd. Rave master had alot of deaths while fairy tail has zero so far. Actually they brought lisanna back to life.

shuha27
April 25, 2011, 02:53 PM
IMO, I don't think Marakov will die in this arc. They already had a chance to kill him once in this arc but they didn't. I hope though after this arc he decides to retire and make the guild master Gildartz. In the future though I do see him dead because there is a lot of foreshadowing of his death in the series.

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 02:59 PM
IMO, I don't think Marakov will die in this arc. They already had a chance to kill him once in this arc but they didn't. I hope though after this arc he decides to retire and make the guild master Gildartz. In the future though I do see him dead because there is a lot of foreshadowing of his death in the series.

i agree (well evryone will someday die) someone will probably get as badly hurt but killing makarov after healing him :/ idk doesnt seem right
he will retire but Laxus becoming master is not something i think will happen NOW later yes but now he lacks experience and his grandfather's wisdom which he is traveling to achieve he will come back but yeah Gildartz seems a better option the rest are too young

97gsxminus1bolt
April 25, 2011, 03:23 PM
Well makarov hasn't been healed yet wendys magic wasn't working on him. Makarov is in pretty bad shape right now. I am certain that luxus will be the next leader. I think he will lead with mira though.

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 03:31 PM
Well makarov hasn't been healed yet wendys magic wasn't working on him. Makarov is in pretty bad shape right now. I am certain that luxus will be the next leader. I think he will lead with mira though.

http://www.mangareader.net/fairy-tail/221/3
it was natsu she couldnt heal because of the black scarf however wendy was oo weak i think to heal him too so he might not survive but why let him live so far? he might have an imp last message maybe

Mira and laxus leading? thats a thought that could work
still they are way young an inexperienced so Gildartz seemsstill the better option

97gsxminus1bolt
April 25, 2011, 03:41 PM
http://www.mangareader.net/fairy-tail/221/3
it was natsu she couldnt heal because of the black scarf however wendy was oo weak i think to heal him too so he might not survive but why let him live so far? he might have an imp last message maybe

Mira and laxus leading? thats a thought that could work
still they are way young an inexperienced so Gildartz seemsstill the better option

Well I figured he was gonna stick around to say goodbye to luxus and then luxus goes insane and takes down hades. I mean bluenote is pretty much saved for gildartz if he returns. Natsu and company will probably save the injured from rusty rose. Erza has that guy.

Gildartz doesn't seem like the type of guy that would want to lead though. He seems like the adventure going type.

shuha27
April 25, 2011, 03:51 PM
Well I figured he was gonna stick around to say goodbye to luxus and then luxus goes insane and takes down hades. I mean bluenote is pretty much saved for gildartz if he returns. Natsu and company will probably save the injured from rusty rose. Erza has that guy.

Gildartz doesn't seem like the type of guy that would want to lead though. He seems like the adventure going type.

I never thought of it like that but idk. I don't think Luxus could really take down Hades. That dude is a beast and if Makarov can't take him down, I don't think Luxus can do it either. I think LLL will find a way to beat Rustyrose. I'm not sure about the Gildartz vs Bluenote thing...I hope that happens.

RaveDragon
April 25, 2011, 04:01 PM
well i suppose so since;
http://www.mangareader.net/135-57972-4/fairy-tail/chapter-204.html
and
http://www.mangareader.net/135-57972-5/fairy-tail/chapter-204.html
she didnt have one her before she changed so plus the tattoo is on the arm she used to grab the light or whatnot ^^
[hr]
Laxus taking down hades whose an animal i dont see that happening plus he felt something yes but how will he get to Ft island in time?
Gildartz vs Bluenote is more probable althogh i dont see how he'll get the sos message or whatnot
i wonder how long will this arc last
this chappy promises to answer some questions so please come out soon!

ghostexiled
April 25, 2011, 04:03 PM
You guys are starting to get into general predictions and discussion... so all posts that have nothing really to do with the released spoilers, have been moved to the current discussion/prediction thread.

Please try to only post here (for the time being) if you have something to say about the available spoilers.

Thanks!

Kuzumikun
April 25, 2011, 10:13 PM
IT seems that Cana did get a buff from the Grave to help out. Also is Cana running super fast or is it just me? She probably figured out what she did to Lucy or something. I really hope she helps out with BlueNote or something

miramira
April 26, 2011, 01:38 AM
Thanks for the pictures and the translation :)

I agree the panel where she's crying is almost idetical to Charle's vision.

On the last picture Cana looks like she's angry or determined to fight, not just hurrying to see her guildmates to ask forgiveness. Looks like she found out or was shown something dangerous is about to happen. Just my opinion on the last picture.
[hr]
^Or she needs to confront someone right away.

RaveDragon
April 26, 2011, 04:25 AM
IT seems that Cana did get a buff from the Grave to help out. Also is Cana running super fast or is it just me? She probably figured out what she did to Lucy or something. I really hope she helps out with BlueNote or something

I dont think Cana is running super fast she's just running like full speed probably to get to her friends and she must have seen something bad to make her first ball her eyes out and then run angrily to prevent it ^^

Zeltrax
April 26, 2011, 04:49 AM
I doubt Makarov will die, if Hades wanted to kill him he would have and there was really no better time for him to die at that point.

swordsaintscoot
April 26, 2011, 05:12 AM
it'd be funny if they teased makarovs death to make you think it happened, then healed him just to make him die a little later to surprise us.

RaveDragon
April 26, 2011, 05:14 AM
I doubt Makarov will die, if Hades wanted to kill him he would have and there was really no better time for him to die at that point.

Yep why waste that opportunity and let him live? and to say the truth Gildartz is kind of a guy i see travelling a lot so he would be a good master option but in the end no onw but Makarov is yet fit to take his place, laxus its way to soon for him, maybe though if a bunch of the older one took over together still makarov is and will always be the master in my opinion
but i do get the i will retire now vibe...

AkaiSuiseiNoZero
April 26, 2011, 05:29 AM
From what i can read without squinting:

2nd pic

aaaaaah!

Wasn't (Something.. got cut off, cant see) BUS!

I didn't mean to betray my friends!

no...

I don't mind not becoming an S class mage...

I don't mind not being able to (let my feelings) reach out to Dad...

Above all... I want to protect my friends (nakama)!



First timer here at MH (or at least registered). I only came to see if there was an actual raw for the chapter out this week and couldn't help but noticed you misread the second page. It's not "BUS" but ハズ, or はず. What she basically said in that specific caption was she didn't expect it to be like this ハズじゃなかった!!!

Sorry to sound like an ass, but I won't translate nor will I correct anything else as this doesn't look like a typical spoiler thread but more like a spoiler discussion thread which discourages me from typing anything since a great deal of what was written here seems to be speculation of those who simply "looked at the pictures." Admittedly, this error was just too big and simple for me to simply ignore and I'll just leave it at that.

Good day.

ca12nag3
April 26, 2011, 05:47 AM
First timer here at MH (or at least registered). I only came to see if there was an actual raw for the chapter out this week and couldn't help but noticed you misread the second page. It's not "BUS" but ハズ, or はず. What she basically said in that specific caption was she didn't expect it to be like this ハズじゃなかった!!!

Sorry to sound like an ass, but I won't translate nor will I correct anything else as this doesn't look like a typical spoiler thread but more like a spoiler discussion thread which discourages me from typing anything since a great deal of what was written here seems to be speculation of those who simply "looked at the pictures." Admittedly, this error was just too big and simple for me to simply ignore and I'll just leave it at that.

Good day.

Its because FT doesnt have a seperate spoiler discussion thread that discussions go in this same thread along with the spoilers. If you look at the big 3 they do have a seperate thread.

This is still a spoiler thread tho.

Sollum
April 26, 2011, 06:20 AM
Chapter is out! http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/31348058/1


Edit:

And the only thing i have to say.... i never said it about manga, but... this chapter was g**... I wonder, if i would shoot half of Bill Gates employees, would he reward me with a million bucks or two?

And hey, being an ass is totally worth it! Mangas DO teach something.

But oh well, at least we know that there was some neat spell on the grave! Anyone knows what the word "glitter" means?

RaveDragon
April 26, 2011, 06:21 AM
Yes i was dieing here for a minute finally we get to know what light thingy is! Thanks sollum!!!

Shiro Tsuki
April 26, 2011, 06:30 AM
MHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Who knew?
What a twist!! -_
We knew her dad was someone in ther - But Gil!!!!???
Now that's a comer! >.<

Nice chapter! :)
I loved it - Haters keep hating!

RaveDragon
April 26, 2011, 06:36 AM
That was amazingly done Gildartz is Cana's Dad :OOO shock! that is unexpected poor Cana she must have felt really bad comparing herself to him =[ I knew she had a good reason to be so lets say stupid but she finally came back! Go Cana GOO! g

Fairy glitter sound flashy i wonder what it could be, glitter usually is shiny and small and found everywhere when you throw it hmmm maybe a senbonzakura kind of attack?

any idea when next chappy is its since its golden week?

Edit: Little Cana is as squishible as little Lucy xD too kawaii!!

tobeulp
April 26, 2011, 06:36 AM
Wow that is a shocker Gildarts is leaving his seeds all around the world that is why he didn't know he had a daughter ^^... At least in this chapter Cana redeem all his foolish things she had done but I think it is worth it love to see her not drunk Cana chibi is cute ^^...
Well the only let down for me is I think the fairy glitter is a bad premonition for Grimoire Heart..

wooticus
April 26, 2011, 06:39 AM
woah i love this chapter!

first of all we know about bluenote's goal. fairy law might be even more awesome than we thought if it means more to bluenote than zeref.

moreover this is in my opinion another hint for laxus great return. if it's mavis grave that gives this magic to guild members laxus also received it from the grave, which means mavis entrusts him the future of the guild. also bluenote won't get that spell even if he finds the grave, there's no way mavis will give it to him.

hiro mashima did a great job making us all curious i guess. so we all want to know what fairy glitter is about. i hope it will be used in a good way, not just cana running over, one hitting blue note for the win. that would be lame indeed.
but this revelations brought in even more questions...

first.. cana being gildarts daughter? that somehow.. makes sense now, but i don't like it.. because it's just sad if you see that gildarts is a bit like a father figure for natsu, but not for cana at all..
and then there is the question. What is the third magic? We don't even know about the second, but there has to be a deeper meaning behind it. fairy law seems to be suited for the master of fairy tails, or those who are destined to be the master. fairy glitter sounds a bit like a girly spell, so it's the one cana has to get. But there's one left. So i think that one is castable by gildarts. something that just resembles pure power and destruction.
fairy glitter might be some kind of support skill, boosting all your allys power or helping them against enemy magic (especially that gravity thing). cana defeating bluenote would be a bit cheap. but together with natsu, lucy and wendy it's doable i guess.
at least we know cana isn't up against rustyrose because he doesn't need some kind of uber spell to be defeated.

the only question that's left for me: why aren't mira and erza capable of one of the great fairy spells?
giving out that spell to her confirms cana becoming the s class mage i guess, by the way.

Shadow Limiter
April 26, 2011, 06:43 AM
So, i was right about Cana getting a new powerful magic and it being similar to "Fairy Law" and "Urano Metria".

From what Bluenote is talking, i think "Fairy Glitter" might be a bit similar to "Fairy Law". But what way would it be similar & different i can't say.

RaveDragon
April 26, 2011, 06:50 AM
woah i love this chapter!

first of all we know about bluenote's goal. fairy law might be even more awesome than we thought if it means more to bluenote than zeref.

moreover this is in my opinion another hint for laxus great return. if it's mavis grave that gives this magic to guild members laxus also received it from the grave, which means mavis entrusts him the future of the guild. also bluenote won't get that spell even if he finds the grave, there's no way mavis will give it to him.

hiro mashima did a great job making us all curious i guess. so we all want to know what fairy glitter is about. i hope it will be used in a good way, not just cana running over, one hitting blue note for the win. that would be lame indeed.
but this revelations brought in even more questions...

first.. cana being gildarts daughter? that somehow.. makes sense now, but i don't like it.. because it's just sad if you see that gildarts is a bit like a father figure for natsu, but not for cana at all..
and then there is the question. What is the third magic? We don't even know about the second, but there has to be a deeper meaning behind it. fairy law seems to be suited for the master of fairy tails, or those who are destined to be the master. fairy glitter sounds a bit like a girly spell, so it's the one cana has to get. But there's one left. So i think that one is castable by gildarts. something that just resembles pure power and destruction.
fairy glitter might be some kind of support skill, boosting all your allys power or helping them against enemy magic (especially that gravity thing). cana defeating bluenote would be a bit cheap. but together with natsu, lucy and wendy it's doable i guess.
at least we know cana isn't up against rustyrose because he doesn't need some kind of uber spell to be defeated.

the only question that's left for me: why aren't mira and erza capable of one of the great fairy spells?
giving out that spell to her confirms cana becoming the s class mage i guess, by the way.

You mean bluenote wants Fairy glitter thus it must be important maybe its not destructive or supportive but something that can make a change?
girly spell? well it sounds so yes but you should be very afraid of such spells believe me xD

It's sad yes that Gil didnt notice but maybe he did and didnt know how to act, Cana on the other hand resembles him not so he might not have taken notice unless she resembles the mother whom he i think i assume he loved since they had a kid ay? so maybe it just hurt him too much or thought himself unfit to be a dad

the exam takes place in different places so Mira and Erza might have not gotten a new power because
1- they did not need it being already powerful and there was no crises
2-they werent on ft island

Also cana seems to have become really friends with Lucy if all it took was her sos card message to show her that she was hurting her friends
now all there is left is natsu crying
is it me or it seems to me that Cana is going to get hurt would natsu cry for her? or maybe its still lucy or wendy hmmm

wooticus
April 26, 2011, 06:56 AM
in the last page it says something about the radiance that shines on fairy tail. what if fairy glitter is the exact opposite of fairy law?

fairy law wipes out all the ones your heart sees as foes.

fairy glitter may heal everyone your hear sees as ally. that would mean that bluenote is not only against cana, lucy and wendy. it would also mean makarov being back.

one other idea is that fairy glitter seeks out for the ones that mean the most to you, summoning those, which could bring gildarts, bixlow, freed and even laxus to the island..

i think we can assume bluenote will not win, maybe he will retreat. rustyrose and azuma will also lose. but there still isn't enough power there to defeat hades..
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Also cana seems to have become really friends with Lucy if all it took was her sos card message to show her that she was hurting her friends
now all there is left is natsu crying
is it me or it seems to me that Cana is going to get hurt would natsu cry for her? or maybe its still lucy or wendy hmmm

imho natsu crying has to do something with igneel. i don't think that someone of FT will die and everything involving igneel just influences natsu emotions the most. we saw that attacking his friends only makes him feel extreme anger.

saya1987
April 26, 2011, 06:57 AM
This chapter is terrific but extremely shocking for me! I was speechless for quite a while.
GILDARTS IS HER DAD. OMG. GILDARTS IS HER DAD. GILDARTS IS HER DAD.

I think it's cool that Gildarts isn't the loner anymore. At least we know that he has relationships before.

I think fairy glitter is a spell that could activate once, just like the spell lucy used in her fight with angel.

Btw, the next chapter will be released next next's saturday.

Shiro Tsuki
April 26, 2011, 06:59 AM
Chances of Master dying is very high actually...
Maybe Bluenote will start attacking him to reveal the location of the grave!
Cana comes...
Plots with Natsu - Lucy and Wendy to bring Bluenote down -
They even manage to get a hit on him with Cana's new power...
But its not enough...
Maybe then Gil comes and saves them from the 'wrath of the mighty Bluenote'
Cana goes emotional -
The whole dad meets daughter scene...

Gil bust Bluenote!

At the end - Wendy while healing Master notes that he passed away -
Natsu cries - Cana cries -

sarutobi_sensei
April 26, 2011, 07:00 AM
Wow, I never thought of it. Cana being Gildartz's daughter xD Damn this surprised me to the max...

I mean, who was expecting this? IF you say you were you're lying xD

Anyway, Fairy Glitter, could it be more powerful than Fairy Law? Does Hades know of this?

But this is even better, FT has 3 Ultimate magics. And here we thought that it was Fairy Law all the way. Though it basically does the same thing.

Heh, Mavis did talk to her. I wonder if he'll appear out of nowhere.

So Cana is going to fight against Bluenote? I sure hope she doesn't beat him and only manages to get herself injured, that way Gildartz will beat him when he gets there.

I'm predicting it now, when Gildartz returns, he'll say something like, sorry for not saying anything to you, I didn't know how to do it. I thought you'd hate me if I told you I'm your dad.

Can't wait for the next chapter.

swordsaintscoot
April 26, 2011, 07:03 AM
Mavis transferred his magic to cana...which means this magic can be transferred obviously...what if mavis aint good either and intends for cana to deliver to bluenote/hades?

saya1987
April 26, 2011, 07:04 AM
Oh oh oh....you guys should look closer at the background of cana's flashbacks. There are some cute scenes:
- gray and natsu running
- laxus patting natsu's head

They're so cute!

Shadow Limiter
April 26, 2011, 07:08 AM
fairy glitter might be some kind of support skill, boosting all your allys power or helping them against enemy magic (especially that gravity thing).

If that would have been the case then Bluenote wouldn't have wanted that sort of power. Thats because he is sort of a lone fighter type and doesn't take help from anyone.

Also i think he knows what the "Fairy Glitter" can do, and hence he wants to find it.


the only question that's left for me: why aren't mira and erza capable of one of the great fairy spells?
giving out that spell to her confirms cana becoming the s class mage i guess, by the way.

Most likely there is certain conditions neceesary to be able to use those 3 spells.

The condition for "Fairy Law" is most likely as you pointed out that only people who have the ability to be the master of the guild can learn it.

Where as the conditions for getting "Fairy Glitter" maybe related to heart of the ones who seek to get it (not sure if i am right though).

People like Erza and Mira never needed that power since they where very powerful to begin with.

Now i have a feeling that as Cana got hold of a power like this, she would most likely be an important character for the story in future (same like how Laxus may turn out in the future).


now all there is left is natsu crying
is it me or it seems to me that Cana is going to get hurt would natsu cry for her? or maybe its still lucy or wendy hmmm

Maybe he is crying because he finds out about his past or about Igneel (most likely from 'Zeref' since he seems to be the key to the dragons mystery as well).

bittman
April 26, 2011, 07:10 AM
Haha, we made some mad predictions but I don't think anyone predicted something this simple for Kana's father and reason for becoming S-class.

Fairy Law
Fairy Glitter
Fairy _______ ?
I'm now all curious to see how Glitter and the unknown work with the Fairy Tail guild. In particular what drew Blue Note to Fairy Glitter.

Good chapter, redeemed Kana for many I believe. We were meant to think Kana was being selfish, which makes her realisation a lot more powerful for us also I think. I think Kana is going to Blue Note, but will probably see Erza vs Asuma before then. Rustyrose, on the other hand, harder to predict.

Can we confirm Gildhartz returning for Kana's "arc" now? I think we can. Gildhartz vs Hades: I've been looking forward to it since 30 chapters ago.

RaveDragon
April 26, 2011, 07:12 AM
This chapter is terrific but extremely shocking for me! I was speechless for quite a while.
GILDARTS IS HER DAD. OMG. GILDARTS IS HER DAD. GILDARTS IS HER DAD.

I think it's cool that Gildarts isn't the loner anymore. At least we know that he has relationships before.

I think fairy glitter is a spell that could activate once, just like the spell lucy used in her fight with angel.

Btw, the next chapter will be released next next's saturday.

i'm still trying to digest that fact haha tnx 2 weeks with curiosity but oh well they do deserve a big huge break with all thats been going on

@Shiro Tsuki
thats a scene which i wouldnt mind but as stupid as this sound i will be crying too if master dies D= he's too awesome!

@swordsaintscootnow that would be a twist which Ft wouldnt i think be able to defend against they would lose but maybe this would be a rennavantion like they would come back stronger and take GH down

@saya1987
laxus petting natsu well i am currently rereading it to be more observant xD cute!!!

wooticus
April 26, 2011, 07:14 AM
If that would have been the case then Bluenote wouldn't have wanted that sort of power. Thats because he is sort of a lone fighter type and doesn't take help from anyone.

Also i think he knows what the "Fairy Glitter" can do, and hence he wants to find it.



maybe i misunderstood the text, but doesn't bluenote want fairy law? i don't know, he talks about a radiance that rejects the presence of any foes. this sounds a lot like fairy law to me.

well maybe it's even more powerful than fairy law, maybe it has another effect. "rejects the presence" might also mean it just teleports the enemy away.

saya1987
April 26, 2011, 07:18 AM
As for those who felt that gildarts is more of a paternal figure to natsu or any of the boys, it's just natural that guys connect better with boys than girls.

It's kinda sad that gildarts miss out on being a father to cana's childhood. Can you imagine him playing with dolls or doing girly stuff? Then again, cana could've been raised as a tomboy, wear boyish stuff and not run around in a bikini.

ca12nag3
April 26, 2011, 07:19 AM
To me it seems like Fairy glitter is a defencive spell and Fairy law the offencive one.

Fairy law takes out whoever you see as the enemy.
Fairy glitter might ward off any attack by an enemy.

Tbh it seems like Mavis/Mevis chose Cana as new Guildleader? Its just that using a Fairy spell is a ultimate spell so it seems and only guildleaders should be having that. I cant recall any other S class having such a spell.

Btw anyone who still wants Cana dead has to face the wrath of Gildarts :D muahaha

RaveDragon
April 26, 2011, 07:21 AM
maybe i misunderstood the text, but doesn't bluenote want fairy law? i don't know, he talks about a radiance that rejects the presence of any foes. this sounds a lot like fairy law to me.

well maybe it's even more powerful than fairy law, maybe it has another effect. "rejects the presence" might also mean it just teleports the enemy away.

http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/31348058/6
he wants the magic sealed in the grave which is fairy glitter i think fairy law has something to do with it though he mentions it before


Maybe he is crying because he finds out about his past or about Igneel (most likely from 'Zeref' since he seems to be the key to the dragons mystery as well).

yes thats actually pretty cool and id like that to happen more info on the dragons and zeref maybe on layla too since she seems involved