Discussion Shin Prince of Tennis Tournament Discussion Thread

[Kaoz]

Welcome to the Shin Prince of Tennis Tournament​

This thread will serve as a place for all general tournament discussion. Please read the rules before posting. This post will be updated with various information as the tournament progresses.

Agenda of discussion:

• 
  Predictions about the tournament winner.

• 
  Since there are a lot of characters in Shin Prince of Tennis, do you feel like anyone should have been included over someone else? How would those characters have performed?

• 
  General thoughts about the tournament.

---

Information​

There are a total of 36 players divided into 12 teams. Each team has the positions Singles 1, Singles 2 and Doubles 1. A player's position in their team is preset and cannot be changed during the tournament.

Spoiler: Bracket (credits to Miyagi)

In order to advance, a team needs to win 2 out of 3 matches. A round lasts 96 hours.

Spoiler: Teams

Team 1 - S1: Tezuka Kunimitsu, S2: Konjiki Koharu, D1: Marui Bunta/Kite Eishirou
Team 2 - S1: Yukimura Seiichi, S2: Kai Yuujirou, D1: Shiraishi Kuranosuke/Kirihara Akaya
Team 3 - S1: Sanada Gen'ichirou, S2: Amane Hikaru, D1: Taira Yoshiyuki/Momoshiro Takeshi
Team 4 - S1: Echizen Ryoma, S2: Ibu Shinji, D1: Akutsu Jin/Kawamura Takashi
Team 5 - S1: Irie Kanata, S2: Yamato Yuudai, D1: Yagyuu Hiroshi/Liliadent Krauser
Team 6 - S1: Oni Juujirou, S2: Hirakoba Rin, D1: Shishido Ryou/Tanishi Kei
Team 7 - S1: Ochi Tsukimitsu, S2: Hiyoshi Wakashi, D1: Inui Sadaharu/Yanagi Renji
Team 8 - S1: Niou Masaharu, S2: Kabaji Munehiro, D1: Date Danji/Ishida Gin
Team 9 - S1: Tooyama Kintarou, S2: Matsudaira Chikahiko, D1: Oishi Shuuichirou/Kikumaru Eiji
Team 10 - S1: Atobe Keigo, S2: Sengoku Kiyosumi, D1: Oshitari Yuushi/Kaidou Kaoru
Team 11 - S1: Mouri Jusaburou, S2: Oshitari Kenya, D1: Hakamada Izou/Mitsuya Akuto
Team 12 - S1: Fuji Shuusuke, S2: Akutagawa Jirou, D1: Tachibana Kippei/Chitose Senri

The remaining teams will be revealed as the tournament progresses.

Spoiler: Results

Spoiler: Round 1

Spoiler: Team 11 vs Team 12

Singles 1: Mouri Jusaburou vs Fuji Shuusuke: 1-10
Singles 2: Oshitari Kenya vs Akutagawa Jirou: 4-6
Doubles 1: Hakamada Izou/Mitsuya Akuto vs Tachibana Kippei/Chitose Senri: 3-8

Spoiler: Team 5 vs Team 8

Singles 1: Irie Kanata vs Niou Masaharu: 9-2
Singles 2: Yamato Yuudai vs Kabaji Munehiro: 4-4
Doubles 1: Yagyuu Hiroshi/Liliadent Krauser vs Date Danji/Ishida Gin: 2-8

Spoiler: Team 7 vs Team 9

Singles 1: Ochi Tsukimitsu vs Tooyama Kintarou 3-8
Singles 2: Hiyoshi Wakashi vs Matsudaira Chikahiko 1-11
Doubles 1: Inui Sadaharu/Yanagi Renji vs Oishi Shuuichirou/Kikumaru Eiji 4-5

Spoiler: Team 6 vs Team 10

Singles 1: Oni Juujirou vs Atobe Keigo 6-3
Singles 2: Hirakoba Rin vs Sengoku Kiyosumi 7-2
Doubles 1: Shishido Ryou/Tanishi Kei vs Oshitari Yuushi/Kaidou Kaoru 1-8

Spoiler: Round 2

Spoiler: Team 1 vs Team 12

Singles 1: Tezuka Kunimitsu vs Fuji Shuusuke 8-3
Singles 2: Konjiki Koharu vs Akutagawa Jirou 4-5
Doubles 1: Marui Bunta/Kite Eishirou vs Tachibana Kippei/Chitose Senri 1-10

Spoiler: Team 3 vs Team 5

Singles 1: Sanada Gen'ichirou vs Irie Kanata 8-6
Singles 2: Amane Hikaru vs Yamato Yuudai 3-8
Doubles 1: Taira Yoshiyuki/Momoshiro Takeshi vs Yagyuu Hiroshi/Liliadent Krauser 12-1

Spoiler: Team 2 vs Team 9

Singles 1: Yukimura Seiichi vs Tooyama Kintarou 12-3
Singles 2: Kai Yuujirou vs Matsudaira Chikahiko 3-12
Doubles 1: Shiraishi Kuranosuke/Kirihara Akaya vs Oishi Shuuichirou/Kikumaru Eiji 8-5

Spoiler: Team 4 vs Team 6

Singles 1: Echizen Ryoma vs Oni Juujirou: 6-8
Singles 2: Ibu Shinji vs Hirakoba Rin 1-9
Doubles 1: Akutsu Jin/Kawamura Takashi vs Shishido Ryou/Tanishi Kei 10-0

Spoiler: Semifinals

Spoiler: Team 2 vs Team 12

Singles 1: Yukimura Seiichi vs Fuji Shuusuke 9-4
Singles 2: Kai Yuujirou vs Akutagawa Jirou 4-9
Doubles 1: Shiraishi Kuranosuke/Kirihara Akaya vs Tachibana Kippei/Chitose Senri 2-8

Spoiler: Team 3 vs Team 6

Singles 1: Sanada Gen'ichirou vs Oni Juujirou 7-6
Singles 2: Amane Hikaru vs Hirakoba Rin 0-11
Doubles 1: Taira Yoshiyuki/Momoshiro Takeshi vs Shishido Ryou/Tanishi Kei 11-0

Spoiler: Finals

Spoiler: Team 3 vs Team 12

Singles 1: Sanada Gen'ichirou vs Fuji Shuusuke 7-5
Singles 2: Amane Hikaru vs Akutagawa Jirou 2-7
Doubles 1: Taira Yoshiyuki/Momoshiro Takeshi vs Tachibana Kippei/Chitose Senri 4-6

 

[Hardy]

Kaoz, I think the polls should be added AFTER the discussion, as we can´t change our votes if someone convinces us that our thoughts were wrong.

 

[Kaoz]

Nobody forces you to vote right at the beginning. You can wait with casting your vote until after you've discussed the match, but it's logistically easier to do it this way as opposed to having a discussion and a voting stage.

---------- Post added September 12, 2012 at 01:59 PM ---------- Previous post was September 11, 2012 at 05:09 PM ----------

Also, since I've seen people list multiple sets in the results, these are all 1 set matches.

 

[Hardy]

You are not participating? We want to know our mod's opinion

 

[Kaoz]

Well, the event is for you guys first and foremost, so I figured it might be better to hold back.

I was planning on addressing some points in here after the rounds had finished, but if there is demand, I'll make a post here and there during the actual rounds as well. Not during this one anymore though I fear since I'll be away for most of tomorrow.

 

[Fuji Shusuke]

How long is the voting period?

 

[Kaoz]

You can vote at any time you like. The round ends in 10 hours, 31 minutes from this post.

 

[-Ken-]

You should join in during the round, Kaoz. I think it's always fun to read others opinion, even if that opinion is different than mine.

 

[Fuji Shusuke]

Kaoz, could you please at least give your opinion when after the voting if you aren't going to participate, I'd love to hear it.

 

[Hardy]

The crowd's calling you, join us

 

[Kaoz]

Team 12 beats Team 11 3-0 and advances to the Quarterfinals. The bracket image has been updated accordingly.

Next up are the matches between Teams 5 and 8. Enjoy.

 

[Ninomiya]

@Fayte, if you can see this, you know exactly what I meant with the Sanada-ism.
You mention Sanada just so much. Too much.

And yeah, Kaoz drop-in whenever on these tournaments.

 

[Hardy]

It's kinda weird that Jirou lost the discussion, yet he won in the votes.

Seems that the coolest person wins here lol

 

[Ninomiya]

It's kinda weird that Jirou lost the discussion, yet he won in the votes.

Seems that the coolest person wins here lol

That round was entirely down to popularity.
Kenya would have won 7-5 or 6-4. I have to take back the 6-3.
Honestly, if Kenya can get to the net before Jirou in every situation, eventually he will pick up the Volleys before they touch the floor and become unreturnable.

Secondly, Fayte said: ''This doesn't mean Kenya can return it, nor does it mean he will reach the ball in time. It is merely a "possibility." If you went only by this logic, that means Bunta wouldn't be able to win a game on Kenya because he would simply return every volley. We know Kenya can't return all volleys simply by the matches he has already played.''

Kenya will reach the net in time against Jirou. He couldn't reach the net in time against Shiraishi since Bible tennis does this:
http://www.mangareader.net/422-27212-3/prince-of-tennis/chapter-315.html
Inui explained the situation of how Shiraishi can pull off easy drop shots.
Jirou doesn't have Bible tennis and can't create openings like that as easily as Shiraishi can. It's never been hinted or mentioned Jirou has great technique.

Secondly, I said eventually, he will return it. I'm not saying he will be confidently returning and sealing the shot.
It's not like Marui at all. Marui is significantly better than Akutagawa Jirou. Marui is a confident Singles Player with great technique.
Comparing him to Jirou just doesn't make sense.

Whilst Jirou has one volley, Marui has three high level volleys to choose from, and Super Rising to apply pressure on Kenya. Marui is definetely above Kenya.
Jirou however just has Magic Volley which he heavily relied on.

Marui >> Jirou and Kenya.
Marui who leaves the net and returns a Dunk Smash he is just a class above man.

I don't see how you can view Akutagawa and Marui on the same level.

 

[Kaoz]

Small announcement:

Miyagi kindly installed a plugin for this subforum that allows you to unvote and revote in polls. That should solve any issues in that regard and you can change your vote if your opinion changes. Thanks for that.

---------- Post added September 19, 2012 at 10:10 PM ---------- Previous post was September 16, 2012 at 04:33 PM ----------

The matches between Team 5 and Team 8 result in one win for each side and one draw. The staff decided to let the highest ranked match (with the order being Singles 1 > Doubles 1 > Singles 2) take precedence here, so Team 5 wins overall and advances to the Quarterfinals. The bracket image has been updated accordingly.

I apologize for not mentioning anything for these cases in the initial rules, it simply slipped my mind. It will be added shortly though.


Next up are the matches between Teams 7 and 9. Enjoy.

 

[Ninomiya]

man... I forgot to vote for Yamato. I didn't vote in that one.

 

[Hardy]

man... I forgot to vote for Yamato. I didn't vote in that one.

It doesn't change anyhing though, team 5 advances.

 

[Ninomiya]

It doesn't change anyhing though, team 5 advances.

But it wouldn't have had to go to a special role if I did vote.

 

[Tsukihime no uta]

How are you going about generating teams btw? Is it random with modifications afterwards, or completely picked? Or people give input on who they want to see?

 

[Kaoz]

How are you going about generating teams btw? Is it random with modifications afterwards, or completely picked? Or people give input on who they want to see?

I picked all the teams in advance.

---------- Post added September 23, 2012 at 10:08 PM ---------- Previous post was September 20, 2012 at 09:56 PM ----------

Team 9 beats Team 7 3-0 and advances to the Quarterfinals. The bracket image has been updated accordingly.

Next up are the matches between Teams 6 and 10. Enjoy.

---

Since these are the last matches of the first round, I'd like to get some feedback on how long the individual rounds are. Are you guys fine with 4 days as it is or do you think it's too much/too little time?