Fantasy Elfman vs Gajeel

[Orion]

Gajeel, easy.

 

[Kouichi]

Gajeel wins.

 

[LaGOAT]

Gajeel wins mid diff

 

[Livinbreathineatin]

Madmole is the same guy who was damaged by Elfman & Mirajane who was only in satan soul.
Nothing impressive.

Elfman and Mira are both Spriggan level characters so.........

 

[Sevently]

Elfman and Mira are both Spriggan level characters so.........

Elfman & Mirajane satan soul are not Spriggan level.

 

[Livinbreathineatin]

Elfman & Mirajane satan soul are not Spriggan level.

Elfman defeats a Spriggan and stalemates Madmole, who is Spriggan level, but isn’t Spriggan level himself? Also don’t try to tell me Madmole isn’t Spriggan level. He tanked an attack from Natsu that would’ve one shot at least half of the Spriggan’s. The DE’s are clearly on par and above some of the Spriggan’s.

Mirajane defeats a Spriggan (in the same form she fought Skullion in btw) and stalemates Skullion but the form isn’t Spriggan level.

Interesting. What level are they at then?

 

[Sevently]

Elfman defeats a Spriggan and stalemates Madmole, who is Spriggan level, but isn’t Spriggan level himself? Also don’t try to tell me Madmole isn’t Spriggan level. He tanked an attack from Natsu that would’ve one shot at least half of the Spriggan’s. The DE’s are clearly on par and above some of the Spriggan’s.

Mirajane defeats a Spriggan (in the same form she fought Skullion in btw) and stalemates Skullion but the form isn’t Spriggan level.

Interesting. What level are they at then?

Elfman defeated Ajeel because he had the perfect counter and with Lisanna help.
Mirajane defeated Jacob who had eyes close, in a real fight, Jacob clap and Mirajane dissapear.


Madmole is not Spriggan level.

 

[Ramen]

Elfman defeated Ajeel because he had the perfect counter and with Lisanna help.
Mirajane defeated Jacob who had eyes close, in a real fight, Jacob clap and Mirajane dissapear.


Madmole is not Spriggan level.

What?? Wtf is Ajeel,Neinhart going to do to him? Jacob? Even Wahl and Invel are iffy.

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Mirajane defeated Jacob who had eyes close, in a real fight, Jacob clap and Mirajane dissapear.

Mirajane one-shotted him in Jacob in base with miminum MP.

 

[Sevently]

What?? Wtf is Ajeel,Neinhart going to do to him? Jacob? Even Wahl and Invel are iffy.

Being able to tank Natsu punch doesn't mean Madmole is immortal, Madmole had hard time against Elfman, the same Elfman who needed Lisanna to beat Ajeel, the same Elfman who has a big advantage against Ajeel at this moment.

Neinhart was enoughly strong to one-shot Jellal, and he can summon Serena, Bloodman & Wahl.
Madmole has no way to beat Wahl, he can't even put down Elfman & Mirajane satan soul.
Invel is the only one debattable.

 

[Livinbreathineatin]

Elfman defeated Ajeel because he had the perfect counter and with Lisanna help.
Mirajane defeated Jacob who had eyes close, in a real fight, Jacob clap and Mirajane dissapear.


Madmole is not Spriggan level.

Lisanna obviously was not much help if she’s getting one shot by Lucy. Elfman was the one with the counter and the firepower. If anything you can say it was 60/40 and that’s being GENEROUS to Lisanna. Her help was obviously minimal. It was Elfman’s victory.

Whether or not Jacob used all his hax is up for debate but that doesn’t the fact Bss hit him and he was defeated.

Madmole is Spriggan level based on feats. Saying Madmole isn’t Spriggan level is like disregarding the entire story.

 

[Sevently]

Lisanna obviously was not much help if she’s getting one shot by Lucy. Elfman was the one with the counter and the firepower. If anything you can say it was 60/40 and that’s being GENEROUS to Lisanna. Her help was obviously minimal. It was Elfman’s victory.

Whether or not Jacob used all his hax is up for debate but that doesn’t the fact Bss hit him and he was defeated.

Madmole is Spriggan level based on feats. Saying Madmole isn’t Spriggan level is like disregarding the entire story.

Lisanna still help, that's the facts. Elfman wasn't fighting alone against Ajeel.

Jacob is Spriggan level because of his MP and his hax,
Mirajane was fighting against a Jacob who wasn't even using all of his abilities.
I don't considere Madmole at Spriggan level for now, tanking Natsu attack doesn't mean he's above someone who has a less durability. I'm waiting to see his DF.

 

[Livinbreathineatin]

Lisanna still help, that's the facts. Elfman wasn't fighting alone against Ajeel.

Jacob is Spriggan level because of his MP and his hax,
Mirajane was fighting against a Jacob who wasn't even using all of his abilities.
I don't considere Madmole at Spriggan level for now, tanking Natsu attack doesn't mean he's above someone who has a less durability. I'm waiting to see his DF.

Again, her help was minimal due to how weak she is compared to her brother. Their strength isn’t comparable and he’s clearly stronger, therefore he had to put more work in against Ajeel.

Mirajane wasn’t using all her abilities either and had to resort to BSS, which is strong enough to hit a Spriggan and defeat him. Those are the facts. Mira hit a Spriggan with a direct attack and defeated him.

Madmole tanked a Spriggan level attack from Natsu. Ergo meaning his defense is Spriggan level. So what level is he at then if it’s not Spriggan level ???? Getting injured by Elfman doesn’t mean he isn’t Spriggan level since Elfman has feats of defeating legitimate Spriggan’s.

 

[Ramen]

Being able to tank Natsu punch doesn't mean Madmole is immortal, Madmole had hard time against Elfman, the same Elfman who needed Lisanna to beat Ajeel, the same Elfman who has a big advantage against Ajeel at this moment.

Neinhart was enoughly strong to one-shot Jellal, and he can summon Serena, Bloodman & Wahl.
Madmole has no way to beat Wahl, he can't even put down Elfman & Mirajane satan soul.
Invel is the only one debattable.

None of them have anything to bypass his Armour. Stop wanking the weak S12s

Also, tanking a sword to the head and a Demo Fist from Natsu is by default Spriggan Level

 

[Sevently]

Again, her help was minimal due to how weak she is compared to her brother. Their strength isn’t comparable and he’s clearly stronger, therefore he had to put more work in against Ajeel.

Mirajane wasn’t using all her abilities either and had to resort to BSS, which is strong enough to hit a Spriggan and defeat him. Those are the facts. Mira hit a Spriggan with a direct attack and defeated him.

Madmole tanked a Spriggan level attack from Natsu. Ergo meaning his defense is Spriggan level. So what level is he at then if it’s not Spriggan level ???? Getting injured by Elfman doesn’t mean he isn’t Spriggan level since Elfman has feats of defeating legitimate Spriggan’s.

It was still a 2vs1 against Ajeel, Elfman was in 2vs2 against Madmole, and Elfman had a advantage against Ajeel unlike against Madmole.
Madmole has good defense, or not if he's taking damage against a Elfman who needed Lisanna help to beat Ajeel even with a disadvantage.
Jacob durability is shit, but that doesn't change the fact that he can clap and one-shot Mirajane & Madmole if he was serious. And there is nothing who suggers Madmole & Mirajane to have a higher MP than Jacob.

Madmole defense is Spriggan level, but most of them has hax who can one-shot Madmole. Having Spriggan defense level doesn't mean he's on they're level.
Elfman never defeated a Spriggan by himself, You can't deny the fact that Lisanna was helping him, and denying the fact that he had a big advantage against one of the weakest Spriggan.

None of them have anything to bypass his Armour. Stop wanking the weak S12s

Also, tanking a sword to the head and a Demo Fist from Natsu is by default Spriggan Level

If Elfman can damage Madmole, then the S12 can. Tanking only one Demo Fist from Natsu doesn't mean he's unbeatable.

Madmole has Spriggan defense level, but that doesn't mean he can beat a Spriggan.
We're talking about characters who has a way higher MP than Hades with devil heart, and most of them has insane hax.

 

[Ramen]

It was still a 2vs1 against Ajeel, Elfman was in 2vs2 against Madmole, and Elfman had a advantage against Ajeel unlike against Madmole.
Madmole has good defense, or not if he's taking damage against a Elfman who needed Lisanna help to beat Ajeel even with a disadvantage.
Jacob durability is shit, but that doesn't change the fact that he can clap and one-shot Mirajane & Madmole if he was serious. And there is nothing who suggers Madmole & Mirajane to have a higher MP than Jacob.

Madmole defense is Spriggan level, but most of them has hax who can one-shot Madmole. Having Spriggan defense level doesn't mean he's on they're level.
Elfman never defeated a Spriggan by himself, You can't deny the fact that Lisanna was helping him, and denying the fact that he had a big advantage against one of the weakest Spriggan.



If Elfman can damage Madmole, then the S12 can. Tanking only one Demo Fist from Natsu doesn't mean he's unbeatable.

Madmole has Spriggan defense level, but that doesn't mean he can beat a Spriggan.
We're talking about characters who has a way higher MP than Hades with devil heart, and most of them has insane hax.

You're contradicting yourself. None of the Weaker S12 can get past his Armour. All he needs to do is tire them out.

No one said he's unbeatable. He's clearly S12 levels.

 

[Sevently]

You're contradicting yourself. None of the Weaker S12 can get past his Armour. All he needs to do is tire them out.

No one said he's unbeatable. He's clearly S12 levels.

Brandish can one-shot, Jacob can one-shot,
Neinhart was enoughly strong to one-shot Jellal, he should pass his armour with more than one attack, same for Ajeel. Being able to tank one attack doesn't mean he can tank multiples attack's.
Now, how can Madmole put down S12 ?

His defense is S12 levels, that's all.

 

[Ramen]

Brandish can one-shot, Jacob can one-shot,
Neinhart was enoughly strong to one-shot Jellal, he should pass his armour with more than one attack, same for Ajeel. Being able to tank one attack doesn't mean he can tank multiples attack's.
Now, how can Madmole put down S12 ?

His defense is S12 levels, that's all.

Madmole>>>Jellal durability. Neinhart can't do shit. Neither can Jacob or Ajeel

 

[Sevently]

Madmole>>>Jellal durability. Neinhart can't do shit. Neither can Jacob or Ajeel

How can Madmole beat the S12 ? Having a good durability doesn't mean you are stronger in a fight.
Jacob clap and Madmole die, Ajeel was beating Erza in 1vs1 during Alvarez arc. This is better than taking damage & having hard time against Elfman who has no advantage.

 

[Ramen]

How can Madmole beat the S12 ? Having a good durability doesn't mean you are stronger in a fight.
Jacob clap and Madmole die, Ajeel was beating Erza in 1vs1 during Alvarez arc. This is better than taking damage & having hard time against Elfman who has no advantage.

Cool, nothing to get past their armour, you keep ignoring this. He had a couple scratches against Elfman.

Madmole is definitely Spriggan level