In my humble opinion it is an one sided match.Mira need to go all out against 2 Spriggan lieutenants and she is on the level of Erza.So she will be taken out quickly by Jellal.
What's your point? Natsu > MiraI really hope we'll see more from both of them. As of now i agree that Jellal lacks feats. In this arc where powerspikes are so abnormal especially in FT side, Jellal needs to prove he's still top tier. I wish he is and i want him to prove it. One shotting Neinhart is nothing special anymore now that Natsu casually two-shotted his enhanced version.
And i want Mira to prove herself as well. She has powerful tools in her arsenal, but used them on fodders. Macro on fodders, and her most powerful takeover on Irene's puppet.
It feels like a waste to me tbh. When characters like Jellal Mira Kagura Minerva etc, need feats, all they get is Historias, magic-imbued swords... Whereas Natsu get to casually demolish an enhanced Spriggan. That enhanced Spriggan coulda been so much more useful elsewhere.
Macro wouldn't work on Macro and Alegria's best feats are wrecking two Spriggan lieutenants, whereas Jellal wrecked a Spriggan.Mira. Macro Suicide or Algeria facepalm will be enough to end it.
Hum i agree... And so? What's YOUR point? I don't get it. I never compared Natsu to Mira in terms of power or whatever.What's your point? Natsu > Mira
Jellal wrecked fodder lmao. Get real he exhausted himself fighting Neinhart who's not even S12 in stats. Jellal has nothing to suggest he can get out of Macro. Those lieutenants have better durability than Neinhart and Jellal lol. Jellal got KOed by Fodderheart fodder blast he's definitely get smashed by Algeria.What's your point? Natsu > Mira
Macro wouldn't work on Macro and Alegria's best feats are wrecking two Spriggan lieutenants, whereas Jellal wrecked a Spriggan.
Why would you say Neinheart isn't even S12 in stats? He IS one of them. Just because you think Neinheart was weak it doesn't make him weak, he's still a S12 and Jellal one-shotted him. If you don't consider it a legit feat, at least consider it portrayal for Jellal being comfortably S12-level.Jellal wrecked fodder lmao. Get real he exhausted himself fighting Neinhart who's not even S12 in stats. Jellal has nothing to suggest he can get out of Macro. Those lieutenants have better durability than Neinhart and Jellal lol. Jellal got KOed by Fodderheart fodder blast he's definitely get smashed by Algeria.
Saying Jellal rekt an actual S12 . That same "S12" got smashed in two hits while enhanced by base Natsu two basic FD level punches.
You said one-shotting Neinheart was nothing impressive because Natsu had done the same thing, but that's not an argument to why you think Jellal's feats aren't impressive. If anything, it only made Natsu more impressive.Hum i agree... And so? What's YOUR point? I don't get it. I never compared Natsu to Mira in terms of power or whatever.
Given Natsu has more feats he is better to use as a standard. Then Jellal's feat is gauged from Natsu's. If you think Natsu's 2 hits were impressive - likely base techs - then you'd say Jellal's GC was impressive... rather than going the other way. Well that's just my way of doing it anyway.You said one-shotting Neinheart was nothing impressive because Natsu had done the same thing, but that's not an argument to why you think Jellal's feats aren't impressive. If anything, it only made Natsu more impressive.
Ajeel and Jacob can no sell two basic punches from base Natsu so no Neinhart is nowhere near them in stats. Neinhart being weak is a fact. He is one of them in MP but not anything else. There is no portrayal of Jellal being actual S12 level because one shotting Neinhart is nowhere near the level needed to oneshot an actual Spriggan.Why would you say Neinheart isn't even S12 in stats? He IS one of them. Just because you think Neinheart was weak it doesn't make him weak, he's still a S12 and Jellal one-shotted him. If you don't consider it a legit feat, at least consider it portrayal for Jellal being comfortably S12-level.
Those lieutenants didn't have any durability feats, they were lieutenants for a reason. They were weaker than all of the S12. Jellal got KO'd by Neinheart, congratulations, that's a feat for Neinheart, genius. Jellal is still Laxus-level by portrayal. Alegria smashed two featless lieutenants, it's really an admirable feat.
And? That's a feat for Natsu. If you can't discuss things objectively, then don't.
You said one-shotting Neinheart was nothing impressive because Natsu had done the same thing, but that's not an argument to why you think Jellal's feats aren't impressive. If anything, it only made Natsu more impressive.
Are you serious? Jellal has some of the best durability feats in the whole series and you're gonna call his durability trash? Based on what?Ajeel and Jacob can no sell two basic punches from base Natsu so no Neinhart is nowhere near them in stats. Neinhart being weak is a fact. He is one of them in MP but not anything else. There is no portrayal of Jellal being actual S12 level because one shotting Neinhart is nowhere near the level needed to oneshot an actual Spriggan.
Those lieutenants had durability feats like did you even read the fight? They no sold this attack to the faceNo they aren't weaker in durability lmao. Those lieutenants wouldn't have gotten smashed by this fodder attackwhen they took Mira's nuke to the face like chump. Not really a feat for Neinhart when Jellal's durability is utter trash. If you could see things objectively then you'd know that Jellal and Laxus were never portrayed equals.
Defeating Neinhart isn't a feat as Natsu basic Fire Dragon level attacks took his butt out in two shots. That isn't really a feat for Natsu either, we just got confirmation that Neinhart is crap enhanced or not.
What durability feats? Tanking pre-1st-ts basically beginning of the series Dragons force hits is hardly durabilitty anymore and he was getting his butt beat by Sorano's hits pre-ts. His durability is trash.Are you serious? Jellal has some of the best durability feats in the whole series and you're gonna call his durability trash? Based on what?
No it isn't,What durability feats? Tanking pre-1st-ts basically beginning of the series Dragons force hits is hardly durabilitty anymore and he was getting his butt beat by Sorano's hits pre-ts. His durability is trash.
He was getting his butt beat by DF Natsu. And again that was BoS DF Natsu. You're trying to compare that sh!t to x791 era let alone current?No it isn't,
soraro was teaming up with racer (who was slowing jellal's movements) and cobra ( a mind reader), jellal was taking the three of them without meteor and with his bare hands, obviously sorano will land a hit or two.
Jellal durability feats were the best pre prets... he took all natsu moves without a single scratch, even in dragon force it tooks multiple punches to knock him out including this
http://i8.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/98/fairy-tail-161826.jpg
his body got crushed throughout the whole tower
and infact, according to erza, he's the one who got up and saved her from the lacrima and put himself inside it,
http://i2.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/101/fairy-tail-161896.jpg
also, he blocked zero's dark capreccio with a half dead body (after the self destruction seal damage effects on him).
the thing is we didn't get to see jellal is real fight since his fight against natsu... his fight against neinhart was just for the plot to make kagura forgive him.
he was overpowered By DF natsu, yet he was about to unleash abyss break if it wasn't for erza's slash. Bos? Etherion DF is probably stronger than flame of reboke DF natsu, which is thrice base natsu's strengh, Etherion's magical power > jellal's magical power.He was getting his butt beat by DF Natsu. And again that was BoS DF Natsu. You're trying to compare that sh!t to x791 era let alone current?
He didn't get hit by the others attack at first. The first attack that made contact was Sorano's and her angels did significant damage to him.
Natsu saved Erza, Jellal got put into a coma after that fight.
Jellal's durability is terrible, one of the worst in the series now.
he was overpowered By DF natsu, yet he was about to unleash abyss break if it wasn't for erza's slash. Bos? Etherion DF is probably stronger than flame of reboke DF natsu, which is thrice base natsu's strengh, Etherion's magical power > jellal's magical power.
i don't compare between those feats lol; every character's durability got better By the years, same will apply for jellal. Natsu was getting huge damage By zancrow's attacks, will it be the case for him now?
a scratch in the face is a damage for you? even laxus got one By ivan.
no, it wasn't natsu, erza who was living the moment claimed that, natsu just picked her up.
jellal put himself inside the lacrima and he lost his memory because of the Etherion:
http://i9.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/147/fairy-tail-593335.jpg
Yeah it wasn't just a scratch lmao. He got his ass beat after fighting 3 OS members (Midnight only illusioned him) and he needed a week worth of recoverySo a few specs on his face plus a scartch across his cheek constitutes as "significant damage"? Bro, I tend to agree with you normally, but it's clear that you have a lot of bias against Jellal...
Jellal wins mid diff.
Implying that base Natsu is stronger than FDKM.> Implying the Base Natsu wasn't holding back against Jacob and Ajeel on both occasions
> Implying size means anything on in-verse battles. Mira's nuke can't be scaled to anything worth shit.
> Implying Jellal can't just blitz Mira.
Yeah, I'm out.
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Jellal was KOed it doesn't matter if there weren't scratches or not. KO means KO which shows his durability is sh!t.Lmao, Jellal downplay is real in this thread.
Neinhart didn't simply get knocked out by GC. Blood and injury were visible. When Natsu two shotted Neinhart, it was simply a knock out. It didn't do anywhere near the same damage GC did.
Jellal had no signs of any injury after Neinhart's blast, even his clothes were as good as new. All I can say about that is he drowned. That's why Kagura performed that on Jellal. It wouldn't bring him back if it was because of Neinhart's blast lmao.
Jellal wasn't anywhere near exhausted after GC. There's nothing which indicates that after the feat. He was already sweating when he saw Erza injured, way before even using magic. People need to take deep breath and calm down after they are pissed off like that, pretty normal stuff.
I have no doubt that some people here will look like stupid clowns once Jellal appears and endures an attack from Irene or Zeref even if he isn't doing much more than that.
Not much to say about Mirajane, she will stay a flop. Tell me when she uses that macro on anyone relevant, didn't even try on Irene's fodder underlings. She probably knew it doesn't work against high tier fodders, had to bring out her strongest form and beg for them not to move because she was spent after 1 attack.