Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2017] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[shoyoboyo]

One Piece and MHA were both great

Holy hell, I just read them and I couldn't agree more. Really strong chapters from the both of them.

 

[iceemperor]

340125 *341780 My Hero Academia #15
220517 *221705 Shokugeki no Souma #26
169928 *171002 The Promised Neverland #05
*82387 **82764 Yuuna of Yuragi Manor #07
*50088 **50370 Dr.Stone #02
*33163 2359966 One Piece #86
*30494 **30736 Hinomaru Sumo #16
*22392 **22392 My Hero Academia Smash!#04
*21123 **21123 My Hero Academia Vigilante #02

To add further

0522-0820 (May 22-August 20)
2191794 2191794 Ｏ ８６ 1708 (OP)
1210771 1210771 Ｈ ３４ 1706 (HxH)
*600538 *600538 僕 １４ 1706 (Heroaca)
*594792 *594792 ハ ２７ 1708 (Haikyuu)
*353911 *353911 食 ２５ 1707 (Soma)
*327637 2610985 Ｏ ８５ 1705 (OP)
*297665 *297665 ド 　３ 1706 (DB super)
*263152 *263152 約 　４ 1707 (Neverland)
*259529 *259529 銀 ６９ 1707 (Gintama)
*229463 *229463 終 　３ 1706 (Harem)
*152979 *630758 僕 １３ 1704 (Heroaca)

Neverland is shaping up to be a great, much needed hit since Heroaca. Depending on its 2nd week it may hit 300k before dropping out although Kodansha's new releases were just released so we'll have to see how it will hold. Soma continues its drop at a steady pace. For reference,
│226262 (6)│292831│321402│338813│349840┃*,349,840 (*34)┃2017/05｜食戟のソーマ 24
│213649 (6)│280176│311314│******│338805┃*,338,805 (*34)┃2017/07｜食戟のソーマ 25

It sold less than volume 24 despite having an extra day of sales. Its to be seen whether this volume will last 4 weeks unlike volume 25.

Heroaca also has had a nice boost with both volume 13 and 14 hitting 600k back in august. We'll have to see with the year end rankings how much they did in this year.

The last MHA volume that had a full week of sales in the first rankings was volume 13 which sold 264,367(not counting the OVA bundle), so that's good.

OVA bundles don't boost sales. Haikyuu vol 27 had an OVA bundle and it still sold less than Volume 25 despite the same sales time period. The bundles just add a bit to the overall total.

|308478 (3)│569659│657093│707430│739045┃*,809,898 (*80)┃2017/03｜ハイキュー!! 25
│497195 (6)│621281│677862│712046│734999┃*,749,517 (*41)┃2017/05｜ハイキュー!! 26
│274229 (3)│511518│594792│632858│656394┃*,656,394 (*31)┃2017/08｜ハイキュー!! 27 （合計676,658）

 

[Nakurawari]

OVA bundles don't boost sales. Haikyuu vol 27 had an OVA bundle and it still sold less than Volume 25 despite the same sales time period. The bundles just add a bit to the overall total.

I was referring to the fact that the number for volume 13 was not the full amount since OVA bundled versions of the volume aren't included in the sales numbers on these lists. That's what I heard anyway; is that not correct?

 

[Caiops]

Anything about how well RxL vol 1 is doing after all this time?

 

[iceemperor]

I was referring to the fact that the number for volume 13 was not the full amount since OVA bundled versions of the volume aren't included in the sales numbers on these lists. That's what I heard anyway; is that not correct?

Oricon and Shoseki treat them differently as Oricon does report the bundle version but Shoseki treats them as books as opposed to comics so Haikyuu vol 27's bundle didn't show up on Shoseki's weekly ranking but did show up on Oricon. We rarely see their results anyway as Haikyuu and a handful of series are the only ones that actually sell enough to show up on the charts so its best to not consider them for the full amount. What I was referring to was that sometimes people think that these OVA's give a boost to the volume sales when they usually don't. They're too expensive to do so as they cost a little under a regular BD/DVD.

 

[Tamil]

How does vol. 1-5 sales of Neverland compare with MHA vol.1-5 sales?

 

[AllEyez]

Jump's next million seller.

Lol what is this?

 

[Tanzo]

Lol what is this?

A parody chapter of OP done by the author of Chinyuki. It's promotion for his new series coming September 25th on Jump+.

Wasn't Kishimoto like someone predicted would happen, but another well-known author teased in the September new series round a while back.

 

[senjuclan]

1.　213,649　*,213,649　Shokugeki no Souma Vol.25
*4.　134,300　*,134,300　Yakusoku no Neverland Vol.4
*5.　*77,399　*,*77,399　Yuragisou no Yuuna-san Vol.6

dr stone i think 36k in the first week
so it's much better then the last volume for all of them

 

[iceemperor]

How does vol. 1-5 sales of Neverland compare with MHA vol.1-5 sales?

Heroaca
│*71575 (6)│******│101801│137449│157439┃*,621,647 (559)┃2014/11｜僕のヒーローアカデミア 1
│167905 (7)│205179│224942│239566│------┃*,782,031 (686)┃2015/01｜僕のヒーローアカデミア 2
│132801 (3)│226129│254111│------│------┃*,757,894 (598)┃2015/04｜僕のヒーローアカデミア 3
│163233 (4)│230640│259137│274965│------┃*,737,202 (536)┃2015/06｜僕のヒーローアカデミア 4
│194805 (6)│255357│279414│294055│------┃*,715,847 (475)┃2015/08｜僕のヒーローアカデミア 5

Neverland

│*24380 (3)│*49785│------│------│------┃*,292,983 (227)┃2016/12｜約束のネバーランド 1
│*40683 (3)│*78409│------│------│------┃*,273,567 (164)┃2017/02｜約束のネバーランド 2
│*94969 (6)│122494│------│------│------┃*,247,320 (104)┃2017/04｜約束のネバーランド 3
│134300 (6)│182819│209882│******│240991┃*,240,991 (*34)┃2017/07｜約束のネバーランド 4
│171002 (7)│------│------│------│------┃*,171,002 (**7)┃2017/09｜約束のネバーランド 5

Neverland still has a way to go before it can reach Heroaca's level. Volume 5 is just slightly above Heroaca volume 2 but Neverland has had much more promotion, including TV promotion, than Heroaca at the same time.

Looking at Soma for the first 5 volumes for some more reference

│*71367 (4)│*89378│107990│139657│------┃*,373,430 (228)┃2013/04｜食戟のソーマ 1
│134842 (6)│176682│------│------│------┃*,344,553 (167)┃2013/06｜食戟のソーマ 2
│108389 (3)│201072│238590│------│------┃*,323,966 (108)┃2013/08｜食戟のソーマ 3
│175048 (5)│230202│252975│------│------┃*,302,700 (*75)┃2013/09｜食戟のソーマ 4
│187865 (5)│249257│271570│------│------┃*,422,103 (348)┃2013/12｜食戟のソーマ 5

 

[Mr.Fujimaster]

I just take a look at the second mangá of Golden Future Cup (Joreishi Rentarou no Yakusoku).
Something is telling me that this manga will win the Golden Future Cup, if not win the author will be serialized.

 

[Leoat12]

I just take a look at the second mangá of Golden Future Cup (Joreishi Rentarou no Yakusoku).
Something is telling me that this manga will win the Golden Future Cup, if not win the author will be serialized.

The one that people thought outrageous that the liked One Piece, My Hero Academia and stuff? Why do you say that?

 

[Mr.Fujimaster]

The one that people thought outrageous that the liked One Piece, My Hero Academia and stuff? Why do you say that?

I just think the author of this one shot has a lot of potential in Jump.
He in my opinion has a good art.
Although I have not yet seen the remaining participants, I believe this participant can win.
If he does not win, I believe that Jump will not leave a talent like his going to another magazine.
It can be serialized just like Takamasa Moue (author of Ole Golazo and Galaxy Gangs) who participated in a Golden Future Cup and did not win.

The same feeling I have with this author is the same as I had with WNL when he released the first chapter.

 

[Leoat12]

I just think the author of this one shot has a lot of potential in Jump.
He in my opinion has a good art.
Although I have not yet seen the remaining participants, I believe this participant can win.
If he does not win, I believe that Jump will not leave a talent like his going to another magazine.
It can be serialized just like Takamasa Moue (author of Ole Golazo and Galaxy Gangs) who participated in a Golden Future Cup and did not win.

The same feeling I have with this author is the same as I had with WNL when he released the first chapter.

I only saw the color page, but yeah, he has a good art. Reminds me My Hero Academia a bit.
He already won by reaching the final stage of GFC, he was already selected to be published so he will probably have a chance after that if he doesn't win, if he does a good series of course.

 

[xAsum0x]

Reminded me of Shibata's artstyle

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I just think the author of this one shot has a lot of potential in Jump.
He in my opinion has a good art.
Although I have not yet seen the remaining participants, I believe this participant can win.
If he does not win, I believe that Jump will not leave a talent like his going to another magazine.
It can be serialized just like Takamasa Moue (author of Ole Golazo and Galaxy Gangs) who participated in a Golden Future Cup and did not win.

The same feeling I have with this author is the same as I had with WNL when he released the first chapter.

I think you're kinda overhyping this guy, because it doesn't matter what kind of artstyle he has if he cant make an interesting story.

 

[Mr.Fujimaster]

I think you're kinda overhyping this guy, because it doesn't matter what kind of artstyle he has if he cant make an interesting story.

I'm not so excited about this guy.
Only something tells me that he has a great talent, and that the jump can not lose him to another magazine.
The only way we can see if he's good is just to wait for a series to be serialized.
Another guy that I believe has a great talent is the author of Soul Catcher (S).
I hope this guy goes back to Jump.

 

[Tanzo]

According to Kaizou, there's a rumor of Man Gatarou (Chinyuki author) starting a new series in Jump, as well as Jump+ (confirmed).
Cover of Kimetsu Vol. 8 is confirmed to be Rengoku from the new chapter.
And man, Miura-sensei finally did a video game themed chapter. Thought that would have happened already.

Spoiler

Entirely parodying Dragon Quest.

 

[xAsum0x]

According to Kaizou, there's a rumor of Man Gatarou (Chinyuki author) starting a new series in Jump, as well as Jump+ (confirmed).

I sure as hell hope not

 

[Tamil]

I knew it would have Rengoku, not really a surprise but glad to see it confirmed. Rengoku is awesome and I hope his cover is the best so far, he definitely has the best color page

Spoiler

Rengoku has such a badass design. Bring us closer to that 2 million copies in print announcement, Rengoku...do it!

 

[Heiji]

According to Kaizou, there's a rumor of Man Gatarou (Chinyuki author) starting a new series in Jump, as well as Jump+ (confirmed).

Spoiler

Entirely parodying Dragon Quest.

New serie in Shônen Jump its Chin Piece. But cancelled after only 3 pages.