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Not saying he is, just saying he's strong. Katakuri is not as strong as a Yonko, doesn't mean he's not exceptionally strong.
That is exactly my point. There is nothing wrong with comparing Ace to people like Kata but stopping short of people like the Yonko. That still means Ace is comparable to the top 1% of fighters in One Piece.

It’s just that there is a big gap between the strongest and weakest within that 1%. Even the weakest character in that group is a monster.
 

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That is exactly my point. There is nothing wrong with comparing Ace to people like Kata but stopping short of people like the Yonko. That still means Ace is comparable to the top 1% of fighters in One Piece.

It’s just that there is a big gap between the strongest and weakest within that 1%. Even the weakest character in that group is a monster.
My point is, he's revered as much weaker.
 

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My point is, he's revered as much weaker.
I guess I just don’t see those posts as much as you do. I usually see people comparing Ace to other people who I would also place in that top 1%. I don’t see people debating whether Ace is as strong as Coby. It’s more people debating about Ace being as strong as Luffy or Sabo or Marco.
 

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I guess I just don’t see those posts as much as you do. I usually see people comparing Ace to other people who I would also place in that top 1%. I don’t see people debating whether Ace is as strong as Coby. It’s more people debating about Ace being as strong as Luffy or Sabo or Marco.
Fair point.

You read threads like this: https://mangahelpers.com/forum/threads/ace-was-kind-of-weak.2998403/page-4

You'll see what I mean and even now. Vastly underrated.

The idea that people questioned if he had Haki despite his standing, time in the New World, ability to fight Jinbe and his pedigree, it is pretty preposterous. Some things do not need explicit evidence, just benefit of the doubt. We haven't seen Aokiji, Kizaru or Jack use Haki, but we give them the benefit of the doubt due to their standing and the fact that it is reasonable.
 

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Ace has Conqueror's Haki, and it's not unreasonable at all to believe he can use Armament and Observation.

In any case, reread the Paramount War, and it made me fall in #NoHomo love with Luffy even more, from his refusal to give up to how he got Whitebeard to believe in him and see him as one of the ones that Roger was looking for. Plus, the feels when Ace died, the flashback, and Luffy crying, and then realizing he still had his crew. That was done so well. Even the flashback was decent, and Oda sucks at flashbacks.
 

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Brace yourselves: the Husbando Wars are coming on Dec 13th!
Prepare your heart to engage and your blood pressure to survive the salt~​

 
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JINBE AS STRAWHAT'S CREWMEMBER CONFIRMED!!



Jinbe is introduced as a member of Straw Hats in Kurumazaki Shrine in Kyoto known as spiritual spot for entertainment industry. People need to pay 90 dollars to get his name featured on the red fence called Tamagaki. Shonen Jump office/Shueisha paid for it.

Source:
 

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Hey guys, I was wondering. If there is a Human Type Zoan category, is there a Mink Type Zoan category? That would be awesome that one of Kaido's calamities has a Mink Zoan fruit, he could "counter" the full moon form of the Minks in the alliance!
 

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Yes, there may be a Hito Hito no Mi: Model Mink or a Hito Hito no Mi: Model Giant, etc.
 

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Personally speaking, I wouldn't want there to be any more hito hito no mi models besides what we already have.
I don't think there should be fruits that act as replacements to races that we have, especially for humans/giants/minks. For the latter, we don't really even NEED a hito hito no mi for that, there are plenty of furred zoans out there.
 

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sandman (AP) full translation for Oda's message in Jump Festa today.

"Hi, I'm Oda. Are you enjoying Jump Festa? I'm watching OP Super Stage with you. It's fun, indeed. Actually I visit Jump Festa every year to have a dinner with Straw Hats VAs after JF.

By the way, ONE PIECE will finally enter Wano next year!! (cheers!!) Some well-informed audience might think, "You said the same thing last year, right?" Yes, I did say that because I thought OP would be able to enter Wano in 2017. This time I'd like to add new information.

I'll introduce one of the legends which lurks in ONE PIECE world. The legend will be the greatest enemy ever for Straw Hats which hinders their way. Perhaps it will be something related to Whitebeard. Oops, it seems I'm being too talkative. Can you believe Marineford Summit War will look "cute" compared to "that"?

Anyway, there are tons of stuffs I wanna draw next year as well. I'll keep moving forward with my full force!! I'm sure you're gonna LOVE it!!"

 

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Ok, here is a crackpot theory: BB will kill caesar clown. What I am thinking is that caesar is not someone who is bound to go unnoticed by the BB pirates or anyone else really. He made the smiles for kaido, took money from big mom to develop giants and also went out of his way to sell weapons to all sorts of people through doflamingo.

Now, why BB's crew? Because they are hunting specifically for strong fruits. So when the time comes if caesar meets someone from BB's crew then BB's crew will have a decision to make. Either caesar is worth more alive than dead and they keep him for his weapons or they are better of killing caesar and giving his exceptional gas fruit to someone whose strength is considerable. Caesar might have a strong fruit but still, his personal strength is worth noting. He is but a fodder with a strong fruit at best. And knowing BB he might be more interested in one of his giants getting an exceptional fruit than in whatever weapon caesar can build.
 

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You people realise that pudding is only one/two years older than Flambé, so is this now okay or does it change anything??
Not sure why Oda is going in this direction but one piece is starting to get dark... after the first two deaths, Oda lost his soul. Now he’s reaching on tough subjects... I for one I’m only concerned for the kids reading/watching anime
 

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You people realise that pudding is only one/two years older than Flambé, so is this now okay or does it change anything??
Not sure why Oda is going in this direction but one piece is starting to get dark... after the first two deaths, Oda lost his soul. Now he’s reaching on tough subjects... I for one I’m only concerned for the kids reading/watching anime
Well here is the mad paranoid answer to everyone's concerns. Oda's mentor was the Mangaka for Rurouni Kenshin. Whom of which was arrested in 2002 for child prostitution, then also just recently arrested again for having child pornography on his computer. A lot of people are freaking out that Oda may be part of it and OP will go unfinished, but so far that is unfounded. That being said Luffy and Sanji aren't that old yet either, people are forgetting that part.

No one seemed to care that Hancock clearly an adult was having a rather large sexual desire for Luffy, a 16 year old at the time. But hey hey, sjw double standards.
 

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No one seemed to care that Hancock clearly an adult was having a rather large sexual desire for Luffy, a 16 year old at the time. But hey hey, sjw double standards.
Hancock wanting Luffy when he was just 17 WAS really messed up though. But there is a double standard for guys. Its like when you hear on the news how some high schooler had an affair with his teacher, the first thing most guys think is "Nice:cheez"

Its like the skit from South Park

But if Sanji was about to get married to a 14 year old, that would be messed up as well. Because you know, the vast majority of 14 year olds are not developed enough to enter marriage with anyone. It's perceived as worse for a girl because girls are perceived to be more innocent than boys. Thats why there was such outrage from people. You can't really defend Sanji+multiple other male characters lusting after a 14 year old girl. It was obvious it was just an error, because even the Japanese were outraged.

Ultimately it is really a stupid thing to get concerned about and is a good example of armchair activism but at the same time defending a "good" 21 year old character having borderline sexual relations with a 14 year old girl is just as cringe worthy. People should have just waited out for a response before getting too worked up about it.
 

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Hancock wanting Luffy when he was just 17 WAS really messed up though. But there is a double standard for guys. Its like when you hear on the news how some high schooler had an affair with his teacher, the first thing most guys think is "Nice:cheez"

Its like the skit from South Park

But if Sanji was about to get married to a 14 year old, that would be messed up as well. Because you know, the vast majority of 14 year olds are not developed enough to enter marriage with anyone. It's perceived as worse for a girl because girls are perceived to be more innocent than boys. Thats why there was such outrage from people. You can't really defend Sanji+multiple other male characters lusting after a 14 year old girl. It was obvious it was just an error, because even the Japanese were outraged.

Ultimately it is really a stupid thing to get concerned about and is a good example of armchair activism but at the same time defending a "good" 21 year old character having borderline sexual relations with a 14 year old girl is just as cringe worthy. People should have just waited out for a response before getting too worked up about it.
Well right I find the whole thing stupid. She does not look 14, so it should and would be obvious it was just a continuity error.
 

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You people realise that pudding is only one/two years older than Flambé, so is this now okay or does it change anything??
Not sure why Oda is going in this direction but one piece is starting to get dark... after the first two deaths, Oda lost his soul. Now he’s reaching on tough subjects... I for one I’m only concerned for the kids reading/watching anime
It's still better than showing that Vander Decken wanted to marry Shirahoshi when she was just a child, or at least falling in love with her.
 
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