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    [Fantasy] Re: is it just me or was the Naruto and Sasuke, actual, fight a draw?

    Naruto fought continuously for days on end, so don't ask me to consider Sasuke's single day of chakra expenditure. Below you talk about Sasuke's version of Hungry Ghost being weak by comparison to...
  2. [Discussion] Re: is it just me or was the Naruto and Sasuke, actual, fight a draw?

    Exactly that.


    Agreed.


    Your definition of a handicap is incorrect. Sasuke was at an advantage even without fully utlilizing his Rinnegan. Limited range of combat options!? Are you being...
  3. [Discussion] Re: is it just me or was the Naruto and Sasuke, actual, fight a draw?

    Sasuke planned to use the Biju from the start, so he had already assessed his limitations and deemed them to be negligible. You say his perception is skewed but conveniently forget that the moment...
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    [Discussion] Re: Naruto stats without Kurama in him

    He would be Konohamaru with Ashura's chakra.
  5. [Discussion] Re: is it just me or was the Naruto and Sasuke, actual, fight a draw?

    How does Sasuke's supposed handicap even feature in this thread? It was clear that from Sasuke's perspective there was no disadvantage; having assessed that Naruto had been significantly weakened by...
  6. [Discussion] Re: is it just me or was the Naruto and Sasuke, actual, fight a draw?

    Sure, Killber Bee managed to dispel the illusion but you shouldn't detract from the fact that he was actually caught in the illusion even if it was only for a second or two. The issue wasn't with the...
  7. [Discussion] Re: is it just me or was the Naruto and Sasuke, actual, fight a draw?

    It was a draw, mostly by Naruto's design. It was clear from the onset that Naruto's objective wasn't to win, but to bare the brunt of Sasuke's wrath. In chapter 697, there were several opportunities...
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    Poll: [Chapter] Re: Naruto 698 Discussion / 699/700 Predictions

    Sasuke did absuolutely everything he could to kill Naruto and yet here they are both on the verge of death with no place to hide. If this isn't the most appropriate time for retrospect and honestly...
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    [Chapter] Re: Naruto 696 Discussion / 697 Predictions

    So much for the theory about Sakura not being able to reach them in a day. Doesn't look like they travelled very far. I must admit that was nice little trick with the Kurama bunshin. As usual, Sasuke...
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    Poll: [Chapter] Re: Naruto 695 Discussion / 696 Predictions

    If Naruto can revive Obito there isn't much in the way of Hagoromo doing the same with Madara. I'm assuming you need both the sun and crescent moon seals to dispel IT, however I don't see why Madara...
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    [Discussion] Re: Strongest Shinobi Rankings

    I've doubled up on a few, but here's my top 7 alive! Kakashi would probably top the list if he still had Obito's power, but he doesn't so...

    1) Naruto
    2) Sasuke / Gai

    --- massive gap ---

    3)...
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    Poll: [Chapter] Re: Naruto 695 Discussion / 696 Predictions

    As usual Kishi has Naruto revert to his old retarded self whenever Sasuke is in the frame. I honestly think they'd be better off deciding things with a game of shogi and a cup of tea, which is...
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    Re: MS Sasuke vs. SM Naruto

    So his clones getting faster and stronger but not more durable? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but I won't argue the point further.

    Itachi's Susanoo was different in that he garnished it...
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    Poll: [Chapter] Re: Naruto 694 Discussion/ 695 Predictions

    I'm assuming it was Sasuke that bridged the gap, but don't get why he's sandbagging, unless that's not the original Naruto! If that's the case, then nice opener. If not, then I'm disappointed in...
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    [Chapter] Re: Naruto 693 Discussion/ 694 Predictions

    You're comparing Sasuke to someone who had been taught how to use the Rinnegan and had been using those jutsu in battle for a least 10 years. Naruto didn't know all of Nagato's jutsu as Ningendō's...
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    Re: MS Sasuke vs. SM Naruto

    What!? There're something terribly wrong with the way you interpret this manga and that you can dismiss the fact that the Raikage who prides himself on his speed is willing to let on that Naruto is...
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    [Chapter] Re: Naruto 693 Discussion/ 694 Predictions

    Sure, because it's not like Madara wasn't already an expert at manipulating biju before acquiring the Shinji.

    Do you mean what else apart from chibaku tensei, shinra tensei, summoning Gedo Mazo,...
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    [Chapter] Re: Naruto 693 Discussion/ 694 Predictions

    Thank you for the clarification, but it counts for naught as Naruto already knows how to counter shinra tensei and at present it's not apart of Sasuke's repertoire.

    ---------- Post added at 11:57...
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    [Chapter] Re: Naruto 693 Discussion/ 694 Predictions

    I think this is a questionable statement as Sasuke has yet to show the ability to use s/t jutsu consecutively. It drains his eye for near 5 mins.

    As for the comment about Bee vs Taka! Another...
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    Re: MS Sasuke vs. SM Naruto

    Sure, because Naruto wasn't aware that raikage wanted to kill him before that supposed 'warning'. The evil sensing feature of the pure Kyuubi chakra is only useful when you don't know who or where...
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    [Chapter] Re: Naruto 693 Discussion/ 694 Predictions

    I believe Sasuke used an appropriate level of genjutsu to subdue Sakura. In fact he may have been a little too soft on her. Sasuke's genjutsu only lasted a split second, so it's not like she needs...
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    Re: MS Sasuke vs. SM Naruto

    Lol. The manga shows no such thing, but feel free to post the link. I'm not sure your lesson in physics adds much weight to your claim as it can be argued that 1) raikage had a shorter distance to...
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    [Chapter] Re: Naruto 693 Discussion/ 694 Predictions

    You should go back to the 'If Sasuke was compassionate...' thread and peddle your wears there. Sasuke is very calculated and prefers to end things with as few moves as possible; such is the very...
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    [Chapter] Re: Naruto 693 Discussion/ 694 Predictions

    It's most definitely irrefutable. Kakashi even stated that Sasuke has been more than willing to kill her. Although, I understand why the genjutsu had to be so violent. The mind makes the attack real,...
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    Re: MS Sasuke vs. SM Naruto

    Naruto was faster than raikage thanks to being faster. It's that simple. The only time he was in danger against 3rd raikage was when overexerted himself in biju mode. Naruto's reflexes are far...
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    [Chapter] Re: Naruto 693 Discussion/ 694 Predictions

    Sasuke has already stated that all who could oppose him are gone, except for Naruto. Sasuke doesn't view her as a big enough threat to warrant anything above simple genjutsu. If he thought she posed...
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    Re: MS Sasuke vs. SM Naruto

    Naruto has the quickest response time of anyone in the manga. Furthermore SM allows him to sense of danger faster and greater than BM, probably to a greater extent than Kabuto, so I don't really see...
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    Re: Handi cap naruto vs current Sasuke.

    I don't agree with your assessment of their brief encounter in part 2. Firstly, Naruto had just torn Oro a new one and was still suffering the effects of his Kyuubi four-tail transformation. You know...
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    [Fantasy] Re: Sasuke vs Naruto

    I believe Itachi was referring to the original as we saw that Kakashi's bunshin was affected by genjutsu.
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    [Fantasy] Re: Sasuke vs Naruto

    I don't believe that's true, because we know that Obito offered to teach Nagato how to use the Rinnegan. Obito didn't have the Rinnegan until he took it from Nagato's corpse and instantly knew how to...
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    [Fantasy] Re: Sasuke vs Naruto

    That's the problem.
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    Poll: [Discussion] Re: naruto win against sasuke and naruto's potential

    That was against an opponent who was vastly superior to Naruto had extensive experience in using Rinnegan. Sasuke shouldn't have achieved the same level of proficiency after less than a day of use,...
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    [Fantasy] Re: Sasuke vs Naruto

    Madara taught Obito and Obito taught Nagato. It stands to reason that Zetsu taught Madara, or the very least pointed him in the right direction. If Sasuke was inventing new jutsu, it wouldn't be so...
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    [Fantasy] Re: Sasuke vs Naruto

    Naruto doesn't seem overly concerned. They each have half of Hagoromo's power, so it stands to reason that whatever Sasuke can do with his eyes, Naruto can counter with his body. He'll probably find...
  35. Poll: [Chapter] Re: Naruto 692 Discussion / 693 Predictions

    I thinking spirit bomb! It'd be interesting to see how Sasuke plans to fight Naruto without using chidori, as 1) it's useless 2) it might release the IT and 3) it might create some weird black orb...
  36. [Discussion] Re: If Sasuke ever learns to be compassionate, would he be the ideal leader, compared to Naruto?

    I'm sure our resident mangaka will disapprove, so expect different versions of chapter [insert any number] to surface and prove you wrong.
  37. [Discussion] Re: If Sasuke ever learns to be compassionate, would he be the ideal leader, compared to Naruto?

    This is typical of your posts. You focus on things that aren't even relevant or true. In Konoha there was Naruto, Gai, Danzo, Tsunade, Kakashi, Nara clan, Yamaka clan and the Aburame clan. Take that...
  38. [Discussion] Re: If Sasuke ever learns to be compassionate, would he be the ideal leader, compared to Naruto?

    You're not painting Sasuke in a good light, because it should have been obvious that Madara was done.


    You're right, however, it was still the right thing to do. Moreover, Sasuke knows that BZ...
  39. [Discussion] Re: If Sasuke ever learns to be compassionate, would he be the ideal leader, compared to Naruto?

    The writing in bold is all the proof I need that you base much of your claims of speculation. The fact is that Sasuke did not say where Naruto was headed or for what purpose, which in most cases...
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    [Fantasy] Re: Sasuke vs Naruto

    You're forgetting that Killer Bee's lariat is suppose to be on par with raikage's which should give an indication of its speed and power. This whole event happened in a split second in which time,...
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    Re: Sasuke vs Double MS Kakashi

    I totally agree with everything you've said. I thought Sasuke and Naruto beat Kaguya because of they outwitted and outmaneourved her, but now I'm learning that it came down to sheer muscle and...
  42. [Discussion] Re: If Sasuke ever learns to be compassionate, would he be the ideal leader, compared to Naruto?

    I won't dignify this with an answer as there it's clear you're beyond reason.


    Same as above.


    ...


    You've totally missed the point. To explain it again would be a waste of time. Sorry to...
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    [Fantasy] Re: Sasuke vs Naruto

    They most certainly are excuses. 1) Sasuke was facing Bee when he chest was blow away, had that not been the case, it would have been his back instead 2) we already know that he can handle linear...
  44. [Discussion] Re: If Sasuke ever learns to be compassionate, would he be the ideal leader, compared to Naruto?

    Where is the proof that Sasuke knew? You don't have any, not a shred, so there's no need for you to continue with this nonsense.


    Sasuke does have to be force fed.


    Sasuke's motivation for a...
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    [Fantasy] Re: Sasuke vs Naruto

    Fair enough, I can accept what you're saying for the most part. However, it should be noted that when Sasuke bested Haku in speed everyone was happy to accept that but when Killer B does the same we...
  46. [Discussion] Re: If Sasuke ever learns to be compassionate, would he be the ideal leader, compared to Naruto?

    There's is nothing to suggest that he knew that Naruto was dealing with Black Zetsu. Such an unforgiving individual as he wouldn't pass up on the chance to kill someone he thinks deserves it.


    I...
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    [Fantasy] Re: Sasuke vs Naruto

    I already addressed that and it was explained by Karin, so maybe you should take another look at that panel. It has to do with the fact that he wasn't fast enough to dodge Bee's attack. I suppose...
  48. [Discussion] Re: If Sasuke ever learns to be compassionate, would he be the ideal leader, compared to Naruto?

    When did I say he ran out of selfishness? I'm addressing the claim that Sasuke is a better candidate because he protects others while seeing the bigger picture. Black Zetsu was the greatest threat to...
  49. [Discussion] Re: Let's Discuss Tobirama and the Uchiha - Fair and Square!

    We're saying the same thing.
  50. [Discussion] Re: Let's Discuss Tobirama and the Uchiha - Fair and Square!

    I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just saying that it's unlikely that the bad blood between the clans simply dissipated over night. It makes far more sense that in both clans there would still be...
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