I may have missed this since I've read basically all this in the last 2 weeks, but does God Hand have an ultimate, evil goal? I remember reading something about an apocalypse but I haven't heard it mentioned in forever.
I mean, Griffith is going out of his way to making humanity and monsters work together. Yeah, he's a jerk who sacrificed his friends for power but it certainly looks like he's going to be making life easier for the people of Midland.
Also holy geeze whoever is writing this needs someone to rein him in on the splash panels. I swear that's all the last few chapters have been.
To bring the age of darkness to the world. Femto as the wings of Darkness, got reincarnated as Neo Griffith, a savior. According to the prophecy of the Falcon, which Schierke knows about:
As explained by the prophecy, Griffith is the master of the sinful Black sheep= Apostles through his true form Femto, but he's also the king of the blind white ones aka humans. He will bring an age of darkness which could be what his reign will be like.As to what that entails, it could have to do with the appearance of magical creatures all over the world after the merging of layers. Some of them aren't bad, but many of them can be destructive like the trolls and the sea god for example. What he intends to do is gain the trust of humans by having the apostles fight the magical creatures, and as we've seen many humans have taken refuge in Falconia, where Apostles and humans coexist, although the apostles have their own quarters. It is not clear if Griffith is really trying to help humanity,or if at one point he will sacrifice it for some obscure reason. I can't help but see some similarities between Griffith and Gaiseric's reign. It is implied that Gaiseric's reign ended with a massive sacrifice, and possibly the wise man ascending as Void. I think it is also mentioned that his reign was decadent, that the "angels" were sent to punish him.And there's the fact that Falconia is literally made of the remnants of the old capital from Midland.
So all we have as a clue is that Griffith's reign will be an age of darkness and when he ascended the other god hands mention that if I'm not mistaken.
So from Slan's words, evil shall overcome the sacred, well we already know the God hand are evil and all over the land we've seen some pretty bad things like what was done by Mozgus for example.Not just that but Griffith is posing as the Falcon of light, a savior when in reality he's a demon. Illusion shall overcome existence, we've seen Griffith perform "miracles", like bringing the souls of the dead. I always felt that those were illusions, and not the real souls of the dead.Hate shall overcome love, fear shall overcome hope etc, this is something that is pretty obvious. Right now humans are losing hope as they are being attacked by all kinds of magical creatures. The dead shall overcome the living. This part could also be related to the one with the souls, but the apostles are also dead in a way, and they were reborn thanks to the behelit.And darkness shall overcome the light, which means it will be an age of darkness basically.
Overall I think Griffith's goal will end up meeting that of the God Hand, and IoE of course if it's still canon.He was allowed by IoE to do as he wishes, but in the end it will meet IoE's plan, who manipulates the possible routes through causality.
Last edited by ladylola; April 13, 2015 at 07:36 PM.
What I'm wondering is if Griffith/Femto intends to bring in a dark age. With Falconia he's pretty much realised his dream, so would bringing an age of darkness not actually ruin that? Maybe it's that he doesn't care what happens to the rest of the world as long as his personal nation remains. I suppose my question is whether right now he's acting towards Griffith's dream or God Hand's goal. I can't tell if this is his true self or if he changed even more than it seems when he became Femto.
Griffith's dream and God hand dream go hand in hand, with all the humans going to one place, I wouldn't put it behind me that he could actually sacrifice them or just feed them to the apostles, who are also being deceived here.
I think the meeting on the hill of swords gave us an idea about Neo Griffith's character, he won't abandon his dream no matter what, and he would do anything to achieve it, even sacrifice the BoH. He's simply unable to see them as his friends, so it goes without saying that it's the same for the rest of humanity. Even if he has created Falconia, a utopia where humans and apostles live together, it prolly won't last, for various reasons. It could be because of Griffith's nature as a God hand, once people realize he's a demon I doubt they would be so enthusiastic, and he could take out all his opposants, because they're bound to be in every society or kingdom. But mostly it could be thanks to Guts' interference, who is most likely going to go back to take his revenge, but only after Caska is taken care of.
It's hard to verify any of these theories, because the lack of content, but I can already tell that Griffith won't have the support of all the humans, there is Guts, but also Rickert, and basically anyone who could be aware of what he is, and that includes the magicians, the Hanafubuku king etc.
^ Yeah, that all makes sense. Although by the time his true nature is revealed it may not even matter. The other God Hand seem to already be on their way to entering the world, and when they've had their way with it humans might not have any choice but to be part of Femto's nation since the others might be even worse to deal with. Or maybe GH's goal is to just completely erase the concept of good from the world, so if they get their way humanity will become so warped they'll stop being victims and start being part of the darkness. All assuming the good guys don't find a way to stop the GH.
Speaking of the other Hands I guess it's possible that the end goal is just to divide the world up between them and have them each do things their own way in their own domain. In that case Femto may have his organised nation alone in a world full of just madness.
I was thinking it would be nice if the GH all made it to Falconia and took a human form, so that when the day comes they would be in the right place at the right time. I vaguely recall Miura saying he'd like to make a gaiden of some sort about the God Hand, and maybe even SK/Gaiseric, but that was years ago before this never ending break. It would be interesting to see them as humans before they became GH.
Last edited by ladylola; May 23, 2015 at 11:21 AM.
Yes, I'd love to see the God Hand's individual origins. Conrad's clearly the least prominent one, but even that's making me wonder who he was and what could possibly have been his desire. We've got vague hints on Void's, and evidently he's kind of a scholarly observer. And Slan is obviously some kind of passion hedonist, whether that passion happens to be sexual or violent. Got to wonder who she was in life.
Anyway, their main way of spending time seems to revolve around the Apostles and what they represent - just exploiting and unleashing people's inner ugliness. They could just be after observing and playing around in the most twisted world they can create. Femto seems different from them in that he craves order rather than chaos, but who knows if that's true.
Like I said it's too early to tell what Griffith's reign will be like, and I'm pretty sure he can't show his true colors right off the bat, because well that's not the wisest thing to do.
Last edited by ladylola; May 27, 2015 at 07:36 AM.
I agree Griffith's motivation prolly isn't noble, to me it looked like he just wanted to be king because he wanted to be above everyone else, he certainly didn't like it when nobles used to look down on him. Could be that and in this case it prolly doesn't matter that much to know why he wanted to have his own kingdom.
I think the God hand just want to spread suffering and darkness around the world and manipulate events. And they don't really have a goal besides serving the idea of evil hence the name God Hand, they're like angels.
If the Idea of Evil is still part of the story, then the answer may lie there, to some extent. Since it obeys the collective will of mankind, it may be that when the people (or rather, makind in general) wish for a savior, the IoE sends them one (Griffith, Gaiseric?)... And when said saviour's rule takes a turn for the worse and gets more tyranical/decadent, the people/mankind wish to be freed from said tyranny... And the IoE obliges by ending said tyranny, ending the rule of the so called savior, sending the pieces flying everywhere as it does so. In the process, the old members of the God Hand dies, but another rises to start the cycle anew... Which would mean that the God Hand are all ultimately just pawns used by the IoE to keep the cycle going. If so, they do not have their own goals - but that is assuming they know the full story, which they might not (only Void would know for sure). But if they do AND know - well, they may not care; Griffith only cares about getting his own Kingdom after all - anything after that - including whatever happesn to himself - may not matter to him as long as he can fulfil that one goal and it may well be similar for the others of the God Hand...