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I doubt he was the previous squad Captain, that would be meh...anti-climactic. I do, however, like the idea that he is part of the royal family. It could/would explain alot I'd think, because Ichigo's growth is extremely abnormal, so if he were royalty or a noble, it would explain quite a few things, since I'd assume a purebread Shinigami would "grow" differently (and faster) than someone who developed spiritual powers after they died.
As for Urahara:
That's why he was exiled...and obviously that's why he cannot re-enter Soul Society...Yourichi and Urahara had been friends for god knows how long (remember, when Urahara joined the Gotei 13, and Yourichi her branch of the military, they trained together to further their strengths/limits), and she helped him escape.
Personally, I hope he's a member of the royal guard or family itself...would make things more interesting and explain alot methinks.
jabbament pretty much said everything I wanted to say. ^_^ Nice post.
About the 'Captain' issue, I've been trying toget the exact translation since different groups translated it in their own way, but now that you say it, it actually makes sense. Although I'm still trying to figure out what that robe was.
Maybe something the Royal Guard wore?
Also, speculations about Isshin being Urahara's Vice Captain can't be true.
That chapter clearly showed that the only person who followed Urahara out of SS was Yoruichi. If anyone else had helped, then it would have been mentioned.
As for why Isshin never tried to help the first time a hollow appeared in their house.
I've been thinking about it for a long time now, and I'm still not even sure what I'm trying to say. XD Someone mentioned before that maybe Isshin had his powers sealed by Urahara? Could be, but then what reason would he have had to seal it?
Ah whatever...I give up. XD
Yeah, I don't think we'll find out what the robe is for a while...but I'm still damned curious.Originally Posted by Dragonzair
As for Isshin being Urahara's Vice Captain? Highly doubt it. Isshin himself is at least Captain's level, and from the little bit we've seen of him in Shinigami mode, he's pretty damned powerful (remember, the Grand Fisher had been murdering/eating Shinigami for 50 years, and then he got his "power up" and got even stronger...but he was still dead before Isshin blinked).
I agree with you. No one else helped Urahara escape. He was sentenced to be exiled (and who knows what exactly Soul Society's "exile" is? I'd guess its probably something like isolation for the rest of eternity with no hope of ever coming in contact with anything again and no way to get back and nothing to do...), so his rescue/escape operation would have been something secret, and since Urahara and Yourichi are both damned strong (and fast), anyone else probably would have been a burden more than a help ;p
As for my guess why Isshin didn't try to help:
And if he did seal his powers...my guess would be the "romantic" one. Masaki was a regular human (thus why she couldn't see that hollow the day she died), and Isshin choose to seal his powers and become human...Urahara was not exiled for the creation of the Hogyoku, but for the gigai he created that could turn a Shinigami into a Human, so odds are, his body was nothing more than that type of gigai. Also, I'm sure Urahara being the genius he is had a way to reverse the effects, which could explain the first part of his conversation with Urahara:
Anywho, those are just my guesses/theories.
*laughs out loud*
IRONIC IS THE WORD FOR THIS, GODDAMIT! :P
I wnted to post something similar to what you said about Isshin not being a Shinigami for 20 years, but it was just speculations on my part since I totally forgot about that scene (the last page you posted). So I wanted to ramble on and on about Isshin not being able to help Ichigo in the first place due to him stuck in a gigai, or something like that. XD
And I like your thoery about Urahara not being exiled due to the hougyok, but for a gigai he's created to make Shinigamis more Human-like.
\And that thing about Masaki, I can agree to, as well. ^_^ I'm thinking Isshin was sent to the Human World just like Rukia was, and fell in love with a human. As simple as that really. ^_^
Hah. I beat you to it, damn it!Originally Posted by Dragonzair
Anywho, about him not helping, I think it fits about Isshin being stuck in one of Urahara's gigai so he was a human, not much he COULD do, and I want to believe that he saw Rukia so he wasn't worried (since, c'mon, its been revealed that he's no where near as stupid as he pretends to be) about it. I'm going to stick to this theory until proven wrong damn it!
As for Urahara's exile:
And about Isshin, yeah, I'm a bit of a romantic, so I like that theory...but because of his strength (and assumption that he had a high position), I don't think he was sent, I think he went to earth...but, that's just because I like the romantic element of it...hate me if you want.
XD KYAHAHHA Lol. Ok, I don't mind the 'romantic' theory of yours either. ^_^ //DZ
It'll be really awesome if Isshin participates (I'm sure he will) in the upcoming war. If he is indeed a part of the Royal Guard, it's definite he's involved. He does know about Aizen and Vaizards...
No hoping required:Originally Posted by Dragonzair
That is, if he doesn't die prematurely, which I would hate XDOriginally Posted by jabbament
That would be anticlimactic to say the very least....but nah, he's got his Shinigami body back, and we saw that without releasing anything, he was powerful. If he dies, I'll vomit on my PC and throw it out the window then drive over it with my brother's truck or something.Originally Posted by Rampages
ill be right beside you dudeOriginally Posted by jabbament
And me with you all.
I would most definitely not want that to happen.
We could all go and start a protest thread if he dies XD
HELL YEAH!!! //DZ
i think the way urahara's gigai works is overtime it builds up ur soul chain until it becomes whole again. After that u are a human but probably with a shinigami soul, just like ichigo. Ichigo's human body wouldnt stand a chance against a real hollow so im guessing that why isshin was taken out so easily in the 1st chapter
Ichigo is cornered by many strong oponents, suddenly one of them dies by an unseen helper and all of a sudden his father stands next to him to fight the oponents together......
now try to imagine Ichigos face after this pretty hard eh? hihihi