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the bread is too much of a coincidence, and the cheek bones, plus if you think about it he has clarified there is a relationship between most chars that look the same
When i said most, i meant Just those two but i really don't think this is it for isshin's back story i think theres alot more to him then just being 10th div captain, i mean what strikes me is that he also has the shoulder plate thing which has confused me since we have only seen shinigami wear that type of armor during war time (ie unohana's underling)
Yeah maybe but I always thought that shoulder plate thing was Kubo's way of telling us he was a Captain but not telling us which division he was from.
I'm surprised Isshin wasn't a RG. I mean he would fit right in. But then again it's hard to see what he could invent. Maybe some sort of healing technique? He is a doctor in the RW for a reason. Or maybe it's jsut because Masaki healed him when they first met.
Gigai changed him into a human, maybe?Quote:
Isshin seemed to age more than all of them in just 20 years. In his flashback he looks like a teenager to me.
I think when he lost his powers it caused him to age like a human.
That may indeed be the case, seeing as Yamamoto was a middle-aged man ~1000 years ago (based on the flashback showing him teaching Kyoraku which must have been taken place before he became CC. That makes me think though.. Nimaiya (and perhaps Bonze) must have some extreme reiatsu seeing as he's most likely older than Yamamoto.
You puting two different things together.
Urahara's and Visoreds's gigais block their reiatsu so the cant be sensed as also as we seen thay cant enter Senkaimone when they in such a gigai. Isshin most likely was in the same gigai as Rukia, a gigai that takes away spiritual powers and actualy changes Shinigami into normal humans.
However it seemst hat Shinigami age faster as kids and when they are older. Rukia and Renji aged a lot in 10 years and later they didnt age as fast. Yama from 2000+ years ago and 1000 years ago also was barely different but he aged a lot in the last 1000 years. I dont really see a difference between normal humans aging process and Shinigami aging porcess. From kido to teenager at a pretty fast rate and later when we hit certain age the aging process is also faster
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Speaking of Urahara, I'm not entirely sure that he's even using a gigai. As far as I can remember, he has always stayed in that form. Even when he fought Aizen, Yammy and others, it seemed to me like he was in the same form.
If Isshin lost his power there is no reason as to why he wouldnt want to live a normal human life with Masaki
If he had his power idk what would be his reason for wanting to be a noraml human other than to.... again live with masaki who aged at th rate of a normal human.
I was only pointing out that the gigai Rukia used and the gigai Urahara used arent the same gigai.
So either way Isshin aged because he became a normal human. For me gigai is most likely scenario since we dont know if normal souls age at the same rate as humans.
As for Urahara why would he fight in a gigai? Shinigami powers re spiritual powers. It would be hard to use shunpo in a gigai. Isshin simply still have his shinigami robe the Visoreds on the other hand hated the Shinigamies so why would they use their shinigami robes?
Here sure is going a good discussion.
Isshin has to be at the RR for sometime in the past. He didn’t even use his shikai against Aizen, his kido. Why would he be sad on ichigo’s travel to the RR? He has good knowledge about them. So I don’t think that he is never been there (for some time) in the past.
About losing his powers, Ginjo might be involved in it. He knew about Isshin and kuukaku recruited him & co. His talk with ichigo at his boss house is kind of devious (ep 344).
In TBTP, Urahara said that he will make 11 gigais, 8 for the visords and 3 for youroichi, tessai and himself (ep 212). So (may be) he is using a gigai in the HW after all.