http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/ch...7/page007.html Pain was about to shoot out of there with Naruto, Hinata taking the action she did pretty much reasulted in Naruto braking free before it was too late.
Seems like no one was willing to help Naruto even if they knew he was in deep sh- so IDK what Hinata could have done to gather a team in the given amount of time before Pain shoot both himself and Naruto into the air.
She wanted to help Naruto, that was her job on the team, but she felt helpless. Read the pages leading up to Naruto going 4 tail, not just one page. It will help to put things in context.
The restorant was a pity date. Can anyone say that Sakura would have gon out with Naruto even if he did not go 4tail?
Did she ever go out with him again? Would Naruto have wanted to go out with her again?
Notice all the only quote that is used to back up the theory that Sakura love Naruto comes from other characters, and not from Sakura.
Reposting my post.
Hinata almost took out Pain. Pain had to run, she made a good move.
I found something interesting, but the NaruSaku fans would not like it.
Sakura in her own words, her dislike.
Last edited by Jetsu; March 22, 2009 at 08:50 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
2. When did Naruto tell the whole village not to interrupt?
3. Yes, the slug is at blame too, unless she knew that Naruto would probably be able to escape since she is still with him.
With all the dust and such, the only people who could watch the fight were one's with the Byakugan.
Last edited by Askia32; March 22, 2009 at 09:16 PM. Reason: chillin
Well, Askia vouched for my argument. And wait, I sense, a HUGE F*CKING PRESENCE OF HINATA FANBOYISM:
Let's analyze this.Quote:
Hinata jumped in from surprise, and used her hyuuga lion jutsu (whatever it was), did NO DAMAGE TO PAIN, pain uses his gravity-like jutsu once, leaves her in a BLOODY WRECK, and she has distracted pain for no more than 5 seconds TOPS.
Time to analyze the second statement:Quote:
Pain had to run, really? REALLY? Do you see Pain doing much anything other than turning his head,
Hinata jumps up from behind pain, pain turns his head as seen in the bottom panel.
Now look there! Such heroic results from Hinata so far (sarcasm), pain has now turned his entire body to face him as seen from the mid-right panel.
Now here's the kicker we see now, Hinata runs at pain with her hyuuga lion jutsu, does NO DAMAGE, doesn't even TOUCH PAIN with her jutsu, gets blown away to bits by shinra tensei as shown by the bottom right panel which shows her all bloodied and on the ground.
So, please, explain to me, where did PAIN RUN?
EDIT: Shit, not sure if the pics are working, since right now, the location where I'm at (friends house) has keyword "naruto" blocked, so eh, if it doesn't work, links to the pics I was referring to:
Last edited by Eddy01741; March 22, 2009 at 10:00 PM.
The answer to all your questions about Hinata.
"I'd always cry and give up right away...
Until you, Naruto Kun... Showed me the right path to follow.
I chased you forever......Always wishing that some day I would catch up.
Always Dreaming that we would walk side by side.
Always trying to make it to where you were.
You changed me!
Your smile saved me from who I was?
I'm not afraid to protect you, even if I die doing so!
Because.... I love you, Naruto Kun..."
This is epic, NaruSaku fans can't touch this.
Last edited by Jetsu; March 22, 2009 at 10:34 PM.
Awesome, get beat in all your arguments, pull a monologue showing Hinata's love for Naruto, not the other way around, call it epic, and then just put down all sakura fans.
Once again, not a huge narusaku fan, just a naruhina disliker.
I was just quoting the manga, I did not make anything up. Some time the truth is painful.
I did was not trying to put down the Sakura fan, should have typed NaruSaku, am going to edit it.
Last edited by Jetsu; March 22, 2009 at 10:33 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Hmm, I wonder, basic combat skills? When somebody comes up from behind, surprises you, but fails to actually attack you (hinata should have just tried a backstabbing attack on pain, retains element of surprise, much more effective), what do you do, stay at arms length away where they might be able to hit you with a quick attack/jutsu? Or take maybe a couple steps back, so you can react, I wonder what a smart person would do....
I don't consider that remotely close to running. Running would mean that Pain would scoot his ass out of Konoha and leave Naruto's body there. Instead, Pain takes a couple steps back, why? He's close enough to intercept Hinata in case she tries to escape with naruto in her arms, but far away to react to any attacks and deal with them.
Once again, good intentions, god awful execution.
Yes, you quoted the manga, yes, you quoted what HINATA says, when Naruto says something of that caliber to Hinata (or does so like HInata does in a thought box, which we have seen so damn much), then I will spit at Kishi's image in disgust and turn away. This is the truth? yeah, for hinata, but is it for Naruto? No, he thinks of her as a quiet acquaintance, she doesn't talk to him, so he doesn't know her on a personal level, much less be anywhere close to actual friends.
In your case, the lack of proof for the naruto loving hinata direction must be painful.
Let me lay it out for you:
Naruto's feelings toward sakura: Friendship and crush
Naruto's feelings toward Hinata: Acquaintance
Hinata's feelings toward Naruto: Crush
Sakura's feelings toward Naruto: Friendship
Heh, this thread is all over the place.
I understand both sides of the argument. I've been relatively neutral about it all since we don't really know Naruto's feelings about romantic things. He doesn't really get into that, and based on the women he interacts with doesn't seem like they dig him in that way, either. The only one we know for sure is Hinata. Sakura could be a friend, but she hasn't really said anything about it. Naruto is too focused on the mission (saving Sasuke) but I have a feeling we're about to delve into his feelings about things on a more romantic level. We also know how Sakura feels about Sasuke.
If we took things at face value, then it stands to reason that Sakura would hook up with Sasuke and Hinata would end up with Naruto. However, lines are blurred all over the place where it concerns Naruto and Sakura. We can still pretty much assume where Hinata stands especially since she recently confessed her feelings. If she dies, however, then the odds of Naruto either being alone, or with Sakura go up. We don't know how Naruto really feels about her, since there hasn't been much focus on that relationship since the beginning of the manga. It's funny how unsure we are on this front after all this time.
As for Hinata jumping into the fight, I think she got screwed by plot and the fact this is a manga. In a normal situation, I think she would have been much smarter about the whole thing. Since this is a manga, they always have to jump in and give some sort of monologue. One has to wonder why Pain was just standing there while she was talking to Naruto. Any real villain would have just attacked as soon as she showed up. Same with her not trying to get some backup or jumping him from behind. If it were me, I'd try to get the advantage. Since this is a story, then plot takes precedence and so she has to go down so that Naruto can change into the Fox. The fact that she didn't even get a hit in, or make Pain flinch, just drives this point home. Bad writing in my opinion. I'm not gonna dwell on it that much anymore since we're not the one writing the story to begin with. From a plot point of view, what she did was heroic and sloppy or not ended up saving Naruto's life. Score one for Hinata. Heh, heh.
This entire discussion over who "Deserves" Naruto's love is obvious and that is Hinata. Her stupidity in trying to save him gives her browny points up the ass, and she has actually said she loves him. That however means nothing to the fact that she will actually end up with him.
Sakura ending up with Sasuke makes no sense what so ever seeing as how Sasuke has no interest, and never had any interest in Sakura, and also Sakura hasn't shown any love like feeling for Sasuke since he left her on a bench in part 1.
Same could be said about Naruto and Hinata, Naruto has never shown any love for Hinata, and just because she says she loves him, does not mean he loves her, mostly because he knows next to nothing about the girl.
Now Naruto has always loved Sakura. As it has been hinted at, Sakura has feelings for Naruto. We also know they are extremely close.
Naruto will do anything for Sakura, and Sakura is now wanting to be more than she is for Naruto, but as Yamato said, its not what she does for him, but how she feels for him. If anyone here thinks that Yamato wasn't talking about her loving him, you are naive and stupid.
In any event, having Hinata die, and lets face it people, having her live now makes no sense, but having her die, the way she probably did, was very stupid but as others have said, it serves the plot. Saying that, it serves the plot in one great fashion, it opens Naruto's eyes that peopel do love him, and if Sakura says she loves him, don't you think he'd make some kind of promise like he always does that he won't let her die like Hinata did?
Last edited by Delbi; March 23, 2009 at 12:07 AM.
At any case, what happens if she lives...in your opinion?
In fact, no one besides Hinata and her assistant actually watched the entire fight as far as we are shown.
As for getting in time, she could have used Katsuya to help spread the news or simply just shout out loud. The mini Katsuya in Naruto's pocket probably doesn't know what was really going on outside since she was hiding in the pocket.
- Well first at all the there's not such thing as spin off manga about Hinata and Naruto only, but neither there's a spin off manga where Sakura treats him well since the begining. When I read about Sakura.
- As for Sakura helping naruto before Hinata, err you guys should really read the manga again, there are like 33 chpaters of difference between Hinata's introduction and 20 more till she appears again, have a nice day finding one.
- Also for people who are using the first image as a way to show that Hinata wasn't there when he was rejected at the academy, neither was Sakura, so that's really an argument to crush it.
- You can't assume people positions about how someone feels, you need to see that person saying it and so far Sakura have never said " I love you to Naruto" as she did with Sasuke.
- At this point using the argument of Hinata having a crush for Naruto is pretty weak.
- Do we really know how Naruto feels about Hinata and/or Sakura?, So far we have heard the words "I like" for both obiously in different scenario, but I can't remember a single situation where Naruto says I love Sakura o I love Hinata. We'll have to see the following chapters. I can't say that Naruto loves Hinata, but I can't neither say he loves Sakura, can just say that he liked Sakura. Using past tense because there was an acceptance of Sakura's feeling towards Sakura by Naruto.