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I thought i sent the link for Iron Man on MSN for you. I send it when the link was just posted. I was too sleepy to send a PM here.Originally Posted by Dragonzair
Batman never have the Green Lantern Ring. A Green Lantern ring is bestowed upon an individual who can overcome great fear and Hal Jordan is the best man for it. In Green Lantern #17....Originally Posted by juUnior
That was the worst black panther issue ever..
making light of issue 7, adding unnecessary comedy, creating scenes that never happened in civil war to tie in Ororo into the fight..
I agree with refii. I thought Storm vs Thor scene is just a gimmick and Black Panther joining the fight is lame. The art's better, though, compared to #24.
Er... wow. Now I see Black Panther as the "black power" comic that it is. Though my naive self saw that last scene as a chance for an actual storyline.
Fuck Joe Q O_O
Okay. All seriousness now. *takes a deep breathe*
Thx for answering me, Ichi Now i understand, that i misunderstood before ^^" heheOriginally Posted by Ichimaru Gin n Tonic
I've already said this before, but I don't think I've said it on MH. I'm also not going to use a spoiler, since I'm pretty sure all the members who frequent American Comics already know what happened. And since Cap's death was all over local news stations throughout the country, it's impossible not to know. =PQuote:
But the ending of Civil War is not only appropriate, but necessary. I'm not talking about Cap dying, but that the Pro-Registration side winning. Cap dying is a totally different subject, which I'll get into later. But back to my argument.
I used this very simple argument with a friend of mine on why the SHRA should pass. Would you want masked vigilantes running around the streets with super powers? Would you want these people to have the power to blow up buildings, cars, and streets and get away without paying any sort of punitive damages? Would you want these people to be untrained, unprofessional, and uncontrolled by any sort of rules at all?
The police is a perfect example of this. You give a man a gun and training on how to subdue and even kill people. But we know that the cops know these rather intimidating abilities to protect us. The same could be said for supes (except for those who did not gain their abilities for that purpose like Hulk or Spiderman). However, and this is the key point, the police are responsible for their own actions. Anyone remember Rodney King? I do, especially since it affected my family friends. They had a clothing store during the LA riots that was completely destroyed. I know it wasn't because of the cops themselves, but the direct result of cops beating Rodney King ended up with a family friend, someone who is practically a grandfather to me, having his only store destroyed so readily.
Who's going to pay for that? Certainly nobody paid my family friend, except for typical insurance money (which wasn't much). Someone has to be held up responsible, and those cops were. It's the same case as with superheroes.
And then there's the whole thing with, this is a violation of the constitutional rights. First off, nobody is going to know identities of anyone unless Iron Man gives out the information, the superhero willingly gives up his information, or some very techno savvy supervillain takes the information from Iron Man's personal files. Second, if the SHRA is a violation of constitutional rights, so are driver's licenses, medical degrees, and drinking age limit (things that we take for granted, btw). It's just not bloody safe for someone without a driver's license to be driving. Sure, the driver can be the most careful one in the world, but nobody in his right mind would get in the car with someone without a license (unless you're a teenager going for a joyride. And those always end well, right?).
Anyway, I think I've made my point. Onto Cap's death.
It sucked, yes. But honestly, who really cares? I know I don't (especially since my favorite version of Cap, Ultimate Captain America, is still alive). Captain America was more popular in the Golden Age when he was hardcore and actually killed people in WW2. Hell, Bucky killed people in WW2. But the Captain America of the modern-age is, imo, a watered down version of who he really was. Sure his death sucked, but nobody really even could call Cap a favorite character except for hardcore comic fans, and I mean hardcore. You ask the average person on the street who his favorite Marvel hero is, and the answer will most likely be either Wolverine or Spiderman. Captain America is important only in the sense that he "represented" America. But in a comic world that is becoming more and more global, I think this guy would be a better representative of all of us.
Well... I kinda think that we are getting ahead of ourselves for thinking Cap is dead forever. I mean for crying out loud his sidekick Bucky was dead and he's alive and kicking as Nick's messenger boy. If there was ever a sign of a character dying and then coming back bigger then that then I don't know.
Onto's Menobaka's response about how Captain America doesn't mean anything to any fans. Well... does Iron Man mean anything? If anything Iron Man's boosted role is directly due to his movie.
MOVIES, oh my gosh think about it. Its the movies fault that Iron Man won and that Spiderman is wearing black. Hmm wasn't reported that a Captain America movie is planned in the future. What a convenient time for a revival if he's dead.
And anyways if Cap is dead I hope that Bucky takes his place for a bit blazing guns.
^I wouldn't mind Bucky taking his reins.
Menobaka: Actually, yeah it was nescessary. I'm not omplaining about that. I'm mostly complaining in the fangirl side from me, really. XD
Everything you say is true, in this world, I don't think people would really like it if masked people are the ones fighitng villains who are also masked.
But if you're as...much of a fangirl like I am, I'm sure you'll understand how I feel about things. XD Like when Asuma died, it really made me stop readingNaruto, for he was the only reason I continued Part 2. But that's another topic ><
What I like msot about comics is that it takes me away from seeing problems the real world is facing. And now, unconciously, it seems like it's entering the Marvel universe as well. I don't mind realism every now and then, but to me, too much is nt really a good thing.
Although, I think Cap dying will make great stories for later. I cn't help it though if I've taken it so badly XD I really liked it when he took a stand against Tony Stark, so seeing that really made me feel bad the wholde day >.> Plus, you really can't say that nobody else cares if Cap died. XD It's probably 50/50 thing. XD
That cast aside, I can't wait for Fallen Son to come out. I like the idea of using the Five Stages of Death as the storylines for the books.
I still think choosing Iron Man as the Acceptance issue is too ironic >.>
And...LOL! Captain Planet would certainly be the most needed superhero, one that almost everyone would probably accept. Ironic, since the cartoon itself created controversy when it came out. XD[br]Posted on: March 08, 2007, 02:45:06 PM
They're planning one for a release in 2009, I think o.O Would be perfect for Cap to make a comback. If he is dead.Originally Posted by manu
I mean, Ms. Marvel did tell Jessica Jones that he was alive...but from Stark's response, it may have been that she was lying >.>[br]Posted on: March 08, 2007, 02:47:37 PM_________________________________________________Ahah. I eat my words.
Mighty Avengers are awesome too. XD And I thought I hated Carol. Tony-Carol banter FTW. This is great. Three Avengers titles, and all are looking great (have yet to read Avengers: Initiative, but I think it's gonna be great >.>)
And Frank Cho's cool too. XD
Yay! Avengers (New and Mighty) are my new favourite superhero team! <3
Last edited by Dragonzair; March 14, 2007 at 05:44 AM.
Mighty Avengers is awesome, except Ares lost his mohawk =(
Tony was a chick the whole time? And he's in charge of shield/pro etc.. I mean security risk much?
W/E it's all good I'm sure we'll get some cool action facing off against Ultron 2.0 with the new characters. Even though I have to say, I prefer the character relations in New Avengers.
Well it seems that in order to understand anything in Marvel you have to read everything in order...
I suggest reading Initiative first before touching anything else that might include any Avengers. Afterwards go into Mighty Avengers followed by the New Avengers. I know that Bendis is pretty much directing all three titles but they really should keep the titles more seperate.
Take Mighty Avengers cliff hanger.
Runaways was awesome. It's kinda sad that we won't read from the old team anymore. T_T I have high hopes for Joss Whedon though. I've seen a coupl'a pictures for the next issue, and it looks pretty good.
But really. I love Molly much more now. She's the best young Marvel character EVER. The last panel almost had me in tears. XD
Last edited by Dragonzair; March 21, 2007 at 12:52 PM.
I love ultimate power now, it gives Thor soooooooooooooooo much credit as a friggin God Hero!
Read ultimate power 4 (and I'm sure 5) to get what I mean, I mean come on, this is 1970's Thor + Heroin + Viagra all rolled into ONE baby!
Okay, I'm currently reading Civil War Battle Damage report, and I can happily say that Danielle Moonstar is going to be training the Initiative trainees!
While I'm not fond of the SHRA people, I'm just so happy that we can see Danni again I thought writers forgot all about her after Decimation <3 <3 <3
And it seems Beast is also one of the trainees...